.Williamson. 82,579 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 9 hours ago, Redwhiteandblue said: Just glad to be back in Europe. Couldn't care how long, what round etc... Just good to be back. Sometime ago, a lot of us thought we would never see this again in our lives. You know people that thought we'd never finish at least 3rd again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1690tamRFC 5,001 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 11 hours ago, Teamgers said: Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere but the sheep are now straight into round 2 of this competition for finishing second, whereas we are still in first round and unseeded. I thought that was only the case if Man U win the europa league ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller time 4,988 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 10 hours ago, onefootwillie said: I can't see us going too far given the time we have left to get players in , fit and gel together. If we manage to the group stages we will have done well. It will be a fucking miracle. No chance we will reach the group stages Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,992 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 We'll be out first round. We're fucking rank. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, theiconicman said: We'll be out first round. We're fucking rank. Are we seeded in the first round? If so we'll be fine. Can't see us getting by the second round though, some decent teams in there Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giffnockger 4,840 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Take a decent away trip any where, then worry about the game lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Atheist 178 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 hours ago, The Beast said: "The Dons" Really? Apologies for referring to them by their nickname for quickness. Didn't realise we were supposed to care about them enough for that to be an issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,858 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 30 minutes ago, Blue Atheist said: Apologies for referring to them by their nickname for quickness. Didn't realise we were supposed to care about them enough for that to be an issue. They will be forever referred to as sheepshaggers, as it should be Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 58 minutes ago, giffnockger said: Take a decent away trip any where, then worry about the game lol This. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giffnockger 4,840 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, Billy1984 said: This. Standing in the middle of Hungary of something fulla gear singing the sash Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, giffnockger said: Standing in the middle of Hungary of something fulla gear singing the sash Can't wait. Leipzig made me hungry for more lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giffnockger 4,840 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, Billy1984 said: Can't wait. Leipzig made me hungry for more lol. Same here mate, preferably somewhere this time wae no snow fs! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, giffnockger said: Same here mate, preferably somewhere this time wae no snow fs! No snow on the ground anyway. ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRodgA2k8 542 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 12 hours ago, TheCutch said: TBH, I don't know 1 fellow Gers fan who thought we would never play in Europe again. I actually thought we would have been in it sooner. Should have been back in it this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWeedy 28 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I think we stand a better chance of progressing through the qualifying rounds by actually playing the first round. An extra couple of competitive games to allow the new players to gel and the team get back to full match fitness after the close season before a possible tricky tie in Q2 should help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristoe1872 2,563 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 So we get a wee bit more money and an extra pennant to hang in the trophy room. :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,230 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Blue Atheist said: Apologies for referring to them by their nickname for quickness. Didn't realise we were supposed to care about them enough for that to be an issue. Pretty friendly sort of nickname. Do you talk about "the Bhoys" or "the Celts" as well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big blue Fin 3,724 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 15 hours ago, Wullies_bowly_legs said: Gives us achance to pump some diddy team as a warm up before the 2nd round. Hate to burst your bubble but aren't we some diddy team now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,651 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I actually can't wait for European football again, even if it is the diddy version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullies_bowly_legs 3,820 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, big blue Fin said: Hate to burst your bubble but aren't we some diddy team now? Hence the Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-ClaudeDarcheville 181 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I've been in touch with Bert Kassies and he has now updated the relevant section of his site (not because I asked I hasten to add), as follows:Since the Champions League title holder (Real Madrid or Juventus) already qualified for at least the play-off round of the Champions League, the Europa League title holder (Ajax or Manchester United) will gain access to the play-off round or the group stage of the Champions League, and leave an open spot in the access list. If Manchester United wins the Europa League then there will be an open spot in the Europa League group stage. If Ajax wins the Europa League then there will be only 8 teams in the 3rd qualifying round of the Champions League, which implies an open spot in the play-off round of the Europa League. In both cases the open spot will be taken by the cup winner of the 13th country on the ranking list (Czech Republic). The cup winner of the 18th country on the ranking list (Poland) has direct access to the 3rd qualifying round, and the cup winners of the 25th and 26th countries on the ranking list (Scotland and Azerbaijan) have direct access to the 2nd qualifying round of the Europa League.https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/qual2017.html Aberdeen get this place if they win the Cup or if they finish 2nd in the League, because the Cup losers don't benefit. At this moment we are NOT seeded in Q1; however, we are next in line with a coefficient of 3.875 made up entirely of 20% of Scotland's other Clubs because we have been out of Europe for the past 5 seasons. It's my guess that we will be seeded which means that possible opponents include Shamrock Rovers, Derry City, Cork City from Ireland, Coleraine and Ballymena from NIR, Connah's Quay, Bala Town and Bangor City from Wales, as well as teams from Georgia, Estonia, Latvia, Finland, The Faroes, Iceland, Hungary, Lithuania, Armenia, Georgia, Latvia, Kosova, Albania, Gibraltar and Malta. Given that the first round is regionalised it would seem quite likely that we might end up in Wales, or some part of Ireland. We will not be seeded in Q2, which is where our problems will start against the likes of Hajduk Split (*) Cro 11.550 . Dinamo Minsk * Bls 10.975 . Apollon Limassol (*) Cyp 10.710 . HJK Helsinki * Fin 10.530 . AIK Stockholm * Swe 9.945 . Brøndby IF Den 8.800 . AEL Limassol * Cyp 8.210 . EL3 Tur 7.840 - 58.840 . Gabala FK Azb 7.800 . Slovan Bratislava * Svk 7.350 . EL1 * Srb 7.325 - 16.075 . EL3 Ned >6.712 ->32.712 . EL3 Cze 6.635 - 48.135 . EL3 * Aut 6.570 - 17.070 . EL2 Aut 6.570 - 7.070 . . EL3 Sui 6.415 - 14.415 . AEK Larnaca (*) Cyp 6.210 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jean-ClaudeDarcheville said: Given that the first round is regionalised it would seem quite likely that we might end up in Wales, or some part of Ireland. I've heard this before, but can't find any confirmation on a UEFA website. Can you confirm where you've seen this (then I can send it on to my Ballymena United supporting mate who is panicking about a long flight). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-ClaudeDarcheville 181 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, there'sonlyoneamoruso said: I've heard this before, but can't find any confirmation on a UEFA website. Can you confirm where you've seen this (then I can send it on to my Ballymena United supporting mate who is panicking about a long flight). Although the regulations no longer require the use of regional groups (as used before 2009), UEFA still uses some kind of regionalization in the first qualifying rounds. At first the clubs are divided into seeded and unseeded teams, and then the seeded and unseeded teams are split into regional groups. The general approach seems to use the North/Central/South scheme, but no specific rules are known. https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedel2017.html Bert Kassies is usually correct. This is how it resulted this season In the qualifying rounds the teams are divided into groups with the same number of seeded and unseeded teams. A few hours before the draw a computer system is used to prepare the groups such that teams of the same association are not in the same group and and that all groups are about equal strength (in terms of ranking). Then all clubs in each group are ordered randomly and identified by a number. For these draws there are only two bowls with numbered balls, one with the seeded numbers and one with the unseeded numbers. The draw determines the pairs in the groups: e.g. (7 vs 4) which means that the 7th team of each group plays against the 4th club of each group. For the draw of the 1st round the 96 teams are divided into 8 groups of 10 teams and 2 group of 8 teams. For the groups with 10 teams the pairs (5 vs 7), (9 vs 2), (1 vs 10), (4 vs 6), and (3 vs 8) were drawn, and for the group with 8 teams the pairs (6 vs 3), (2 vs 7), (8 vs 4), and (5 vs 1) were drawn. The draw groups were as follows: Group 1 seeded: Stabæk IF, Hearts FC, Linfield Belfast, FK Ventspils, FC Midtjylland unseeded: Víkingur, Suduva Marijampole, Cork City, Infonet Tallinn, Connah's Quay Group 2 seeded: IFK Göteborg, HJK Helsinki, KR Reykjavik, St. Patrick's Athletic, Levadia Tallinn unseeded: Jeunesse d'Esch, HB Torshavn, Glenavon, Atlantas Klaipeda, Llandudno FC Group 3 seeded: Aberdeen, Brøndby IF, Dinamo Minsk, Kalju Nomme, Shamrock Rovers unseeded: FK Trakai, RoPS Rovaniemi, Spartaks Jurmala, Valur Reykjavik, CS Fola Esch Group 4 seeded: AIK Stockholm, Shakhtior Saligorsk, Odd Grenland, Differdange 03, Breidablik unseeded: Cliftonville, FK Jelgava, IFK Mariehamn, NSI Runavik, Bala Town Group 5 seeded: AEK Larnaca, Vojvodina Novi Sad, Siroki Brijeg, Dila Gori, NK Domzale unseeded: Shirak Gyumri, FC Lusitanos, Birkirkara, Bokelj Kotor, Folgore Group 6 seeded: Pyunik Yerevan, Lokomotiva Zagreb, Rabotnicki Skopje, Cukaricki Belgrade, Videoton Fehérvár unseeded: Ordabasy Shymkent, Zaria Balti, Buducnost Podgorica, UE Santa Coloma, Europa FC Group 7 seeded: FK Kukësi, Beitar Jerusalem, Admira Wacker, Neftchi Baku, Zimbru Chisinau unseeded: Balzan FC, Chikhura Sachkhere, Spartak Myjava, Sloboda Tuzla, Rudar Pljevlja Group 8 seeded: FC Vaduz, DVSC Debrecen, Gabala FK, Maccabi Tel-Aviv, FC Beroe Stara Zagora unseeded: Nova Gorica, Radnik Bijeljina, Samtredia, La Fiorita, Sileks Kratovo Group 9 seeded: Cracovia Kraków, Spartak Trnava, Kairat Almaty, Omonia Nicosia unseeded: Shkendija Tetovo, Teuta Durrës, Hibernians FC, Banants Yerevan Group 10 seeded: Dacia Chisinau, FK Aktobe, Zaglebie Lubin, Slovan Bratislava unseeded: Kapaz Ganja, Slavia Sofia, MTK Budapest, Partizani Tirana Note that regional in terms of Scotland might still mean Georgia! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgethebearlogan 14 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 does this mean we miss being in the betfred cup group stages, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-ClaudeDarcheville 181 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, georgethebearlogan said: does this mean we miss being in the betfred cup group stages, YES Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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