Pena returning is it a ? or ?

[BlueMe 25,327]

2 minutes ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said:

Nobody in their right mind would agree to such a ridiculous condition.

Option 1- Stop drinking/staying up all night and train extra hard or you'll get sacked.

Option 2- Drink/stay up all night and don't bother your arse in training, but still get paid and not get sacked. 

Hopefully he chooses option 1.

 

[wullyRFC 5,230]

Just now, Sweetheart said:

That he attends AA meetings on a regular basis. 

As I already said if he is diagnosed as an alcoholic and is seeking help we would struggle to get rid of him.

[LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510]

4 minutes ago, WATPWATP said:

is that what the cunts on? what the fuck were we thinking!? board must've been fucking morons letting this happen! no wonder we've got no fuckin money!

Nobody actually knows what he's on its all guesswork. He's been on everything from 15k - 35k a week on here depending what day you're reading.

[WATPWATP 160]

try loan him out again,if that fails,give the cunt another chance,if clearly not doing it for whatever reason get shot of him.we've carried enough dross in the past to keep caring. if he doesn't give a shit about himself or Rangers then why the fuck should we.

[Sweetheart 8,458]

Just now, wullyRFC said:

As I already said if he is diagnosed as an alcoholic and is seeking help we would struggle to get rid of him.

There are two ways of getting rid, sack him or get him under control so that he has a sell on value. I think both options should be considered.

[LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510]

5 minutes ago, BlueMe said:

Option 1- Stop drinking/staying up all night and train extra hard or you'll get sacked.

Option 2- Drink/stay up all night and don't bother your arse in training, but still get paid and not get sacked. 

Hopefully he chooses option 1.

 

It's not that simple.

[WATPWATP 160]

1 minute ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said:

It's not that simple.

should be 

[BlueMe 25,327]

1 minute ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said:

It's not that simple.

I know, I'm agreeing with you.

He's under contract, so no chance he's accepting any new 'conditions'.

[WATP-FOREVER 5,231]

If he changes his lifestyle then it could work - but he seems to be a 110% waster. 

[laudrupno1 3,932]

No thanks.

[RoboBear 162]

I put yes. Let's see what a new coaching staff can do with him. However it's a difficult one as most of his problems seem to be down to behaviour and attitude, rather than a loss of form.

But he's costing us a lot of money, so we might as well at least TRY to get something out of him.

[CoopsLaud 4,186]

The boy is a fuckin riddy, so naw!

[LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510]

34 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:

He's in a corner because of his actions. This would be a chance for him to turn things around he either agrees or become unemployable because of his alcohol dependency 

He's not in a corner at all. He's under contract and doesn't have to agree to a thing. He can either continue to collect a wage for doing nothing or we can pay him off to get rid. We can't sack him for being an alcoholic.

[Big Al 55 9,249]

No, but not for any reason other than he’s shite, a washed up alcoholic who’ll never be fit enough to make any real impact again.

[ForeverAndEver 71,482]

Fuck him

[backup 4,724]

Takings will rocket !

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,540]

1 hour ago, G.E.C. said:

Nope, complete slob and wouldn’t cope with Gerrards style of play.

What style is that, genuine question as recently we have had no style, the high pressing high tempo game has fell to fuck, we cant sit deep and defend for the counter as our defence couldnt keep weans out a close

[SheriffHood 536]

I know players have contracts, but there must be a point where you can legally withhold their wages or sack them without compensation due to breach of contract. Get him to fuck. 

[big blue Fin 3,724]

If he has really beaten his demons then give him that last chance and honestly I've blown my nose on worse than a pair of Rangers shorts.

[Sweetheart 8,458]

5 minutes ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said:

He's not in a corner at all. He's under contract and doesn't have to agree to a thing. He can either continue to collect a wage for doing nothing or we can pay him off to get rid. We can't sack him for being an alcoholic.

I believe he is in a corner if he wants to continue to play football. He can't be sacked for having an addiction but he can be sacked for gross misconduct because of that condition. I think he would accept a 2nd chance on the condition he goes to AA meetings.

[MayboleLoyal_atb 3,688]

No 

[LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510]

5 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:

I believe he is in a corner if he wants to continue to play football. He can't be sacked for having an addiction but he can be sacked for gross misconduct because of that condition. I think he would accept a 2nd chance on the condition he goes to AA meetings.

He doesn't have to accept any conditions. He's under contract and unless he does anything to breach that contract we have to honour it and continue to pay him.

[KingKirk 25,643]

If he gets his head down n works hard then he would be a asset imo. His first goal v st Johnstone last season was special

[Sweetheart 8,458]

4 minutes ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said:

He doesn't have to accept any conditions. He's under contract and unless he does anything to breach that contract we have to honour it and continue to pay him.

The club must have something in the small print which covers situations like this, if they don't then they should have.

[marka1979 76]

He wiped his nose on our colours and showed us no respect he can go fuck ??