Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 50 minutes ago, Smile said: He tries to do everything rather than concentrate on his own job. It's actually called hiding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,872 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Arfield has been absolutely pish for months. Hid for almost the entire time he was on the pitch, must’ve touched the ball a third of the times that Jack did Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBOO72 4,372 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said: I think Defoe is far more suited to the impact player coming off the bench. We are a completely different side with him in the team. He doesn't turn hopeful long balls and poor crosses into half chances and goals the same way Alfie does. Can't really knock Defoe for that, he's just not that type of player, never has been, but we really need to vary our game a bit more when he starts imo because as we've seen on numerous occasions now, if we aren't creating him chances he's having very little impact on games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Goldson 4 Tav 6 Barisic 6 Helander 7 Imo Hard to disagree with that mate. This was never going to be a free flowing game considering we were playing on a plastic pitch and returning from an international break. The defence always seems to look dodgy in these types of games tbh - It's hard to read the bounce of the ball and the opposition tactics were basically playing long balls looking for a breaks and fouling to break up our play. Horrible to watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 49 minutes ago, BlueMe said: Tav was fine defensively and covered for Goldson a few times today, he wasn't at fault for their goal. He made a few poor crosses but was also heavily involved in Jacks goal and got another assist for Kents goal. This obsession to find fault with him that some people have on here is weird as fuck tbh and something you would expect to see on a celtic forum. Do you post on them as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, dummiesoot said: Our inability to win the first ball against big physical forwards is shocking, we generally don't do well with the second ball either I can't remember if it was Goldson or Helander who said in an interview that when playing against a physical forward ( i think it was the big Hearts striker that was being discussed) they intentionally don't get close to them because they know they won't win the physical battle and will end up giving away needless fouls trying to win the ball back - so it's more effective to let the ball drop then try and win the ball back or double up. Good shout tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, dummiesoot said: Our inability to win the first ball against big physical forwards is shocking, we generally don't do well with the second ball either It would be good to have a big CF who can lead the line at times. It would give Barisic and Tavernier someone to fire the ball in to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnock Blue 316 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 anyone able to post the goals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 3 hours ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: Ally got it right in his post match assessment, he said of Tav, it seems like it’s every 3 weeks that we talk about him (negatively) that isn’t good enough for a Rangers captain. He like the rest of us watched Ricky Foster the first time round and signed him back again , can’t take any of his footballing opinions serious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,006 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, BlueMe said: I can't remember if it was Goldson or Helander who said in an interview that when playing against a physical forward ( i think it was the big Hearts striker that was being discussed) they intentionally don't get close to them because they know they won't win the physical battle and will end up giving away needless fouls trying to win the ball back - so it's more effective to let the ball drop then try and win the ball back or double up. Good shout tbh. That's fine if we stand off and win the next ball but we do neither Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 45 minutes ago, KBOO72 said: We are a completely different side with him in the team. He doesn't turn hopeful long balls and poor crosses into half chances and goals the same way Alfie does. Can't really knock Defoe for that, he's just not that type of player, never has been, but we really need to vary our game a bit more when he starts imo because as we've seen on numerous occasions now, if we aren't creating him chances he's having very little impact on games. 3 of Defoe’s providers in Kamara Arfield and Aribo don’t even attempt to have a look forward and tav and barrasic had an off day with crosses so the wee mans going to toil , still very clever at times today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, bluenoz said: Did you see his clearing header that flashed right across the penalty box? He was rotten today. His best (and only move) was on Jack's goal. I expect more. Probably only you can remember that header mate , nothing worse than supporters hoping players make a mistake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,843 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cedrick said: Probably only you can remember that header mate , nothing worse than supporters hoping players make a mistake Are you kidding me? I want nothing more than to see our captain raise a trophy over his head but there is nothing worse than supporters pretending he doesn't make mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBOO72 4,372 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cedrick said: 3 of Defoe’s providers in Kamara Arfield and Aribo don’t even attempt to have a look forward and tav and barrasic had an off day with crosses so the wee mans going to toil , still very clever at times today And that's the difference. Our creative players have an off day and Defoe is virtually anonymous. Morelos can make something out of nothing for himself at any time, perhaps we are just becoming a little bit too dependent on that at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Just now, bluenoz said: Are you kidding me? I want nothing more than to see our captain raise a trophy over his head but there is nothing worse than supporters pretending he doesn't make mistakes. Lad on the other side was poor today to nothing to see here though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 11,824 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, dummiesoot said: Our inability to win the first ball against big physical forwards is shocking, we generally don't do well with the second ball either Defoe up against big centre halves is a no win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernando0606 565 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Defence was shocking today, they were all over the place. Please drop Goldson SG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,843 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Cedrick said: Lad on the other side was poor today to nothing to see here though Boy on the other side was average not poor. First average game in months. I'm with Coisty on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrick 8,048 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 minute ago, bluenoz said: Boy on the other side was average not poor. First average game in months. I'm with Coisty on this one. That’s coz ye hate tav Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,843 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cedrick said: That’s coz ye hate tav C'mon mate, stop talking pish. When Tav plays well on Thursday, I will be gladly say so. The whole right hand side today was ineffective Tav, Kamara, Arfield/Ojo. I know you know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, fernando0606 said: Defence was shocking today, they were all over the place. Please drop Goldson SG On this very site he was hailed a hero and rightly so after the Porto game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giffnockger 4,840 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Quality result, that is all. Think I love Ryan Jack more than my family 😂😂😂 what a class act he is + now adding goals (and hunners of shots from outside the box) to his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miracle 7,799 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 It's never a decent game when we play them at that midden. I'm just pleased we ground out a result on that disgrace of a pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernando0606 565 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Billy1984 said: On this very site he was hailed a hero and rightly so after the Porto game. Not by me, he has been piss poor in my opinion. I've been calling for him to be dropped all season. He wasnt even our best player against Porto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, fernando0606 said: Not by me, he has been piss poor in my opinion. I've been calling for him to be dropped all season. He wasnt even our best player against Porto Him or Helander were I would say, not defending Goldson at all as I think he can be better than he has most of this season but think that is the pairing Gerrard fancies so not much chance of him being dropped for any big game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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