Roy Hobbs 2,171 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, The Dude said: There's nothing like proving your point by using a historically wrongly attributed quote to prove your point. Twain said, quoting Benjamin Disraeli. Except there's no record of Disreali having ever used it at any point, either spoken or in any written work. And it's an utterly meaningless quote regardless of who said it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle 53,587 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Malvern said: John Barrowman? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, Sparkle said: To take any pressure off Tav? I’m not saying he did or didn’t btw but that would be one reason. Does it really take the pressure off Tav when we've got our own fans suggesting it's all just a smokescreen to protect him rather than taking the manager's comments at face value? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle 53,587 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, The Dude said: Does it really take the pressure off Tav when we've got our own fans suggesting it's all just a smokescreen to protect him rather than taking the manager's comments at face value? Maybe he felt that as a good manager he should try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Sparkle said: John Barrowman? Capt. Jack Harkness to you. (bloody watch Dr Who) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: Makes his captain look better by taking the decision out of his hands ... Morelos should never have been anywhere near that penalty on Sunday he had already missed a few Does it make his captain look better though? The decision was never in Tavernier's hands. It was always Gerrard's decision. He said that last time after there was a row over who took a penalty (Defoe & Morelos maybe?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle 53,587 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Malvern said: Capt. Jack Harkness to you. (bloody watch Dr Who) never seen it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Maybe he felt that as a good manager he should try. Maybe, think it's more likely that a decision was made after Tav's last miss (both Gerrard and Tavernier said there would be a discussion over it at the time). If you've got a player deciding on a whim he's taking the penalty in spite of the manager picking someone else to play, then he's got bigger things to worry about than protecting Tavernier from criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,916 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, The Dude said: Maybe, think it's more likely that a decision was made after Tav's last miss (both Gerrard and Tavernier said there would be a discussion over it at the time). If you've got a player deciding on a whim he's taking the penalty in spite of the manager picking someone else to play, then he's got bigger things to worry about than protecting Tavernier from criticism. This.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, The Dude said: Does it make his captain look better though? The decision was never in Tavernier's hands. It was always Gerrard's decision. He said that last time after there was a row over who took a penalty (Defoe & Morelos maybe?) Gerrard may well have said to Tav depending on how the game is going it's your decision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,916 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just now, Thermopylae said: Gerrard may well have said to Tav depending on how the game is going it's your decision The decision has been made after Tav missed his last penalty. Sunday was the first penalty since then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues 375 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 We were unlucky to lose. Only Tav,Barsisic,jack and helander got pass marks. Tav is a good captain and becoming mr serious like the gaffer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues 375 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Morelos should have slotted the penalty. Ally wouldn’t have missed especially against celtic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,500 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Name should be changed to full of blues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,621 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I don't think it's up to one player to motivate the team. McGregor, Jack, Davis, Arfield etc as well as our captain have a role to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues 375 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Let’s not change things. We can beat young boys on thurs then if we win all our league games be top of the league on 1/1/20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, The Blues said: We were unlucky to lose. Only Tav,Barsisic,jack and helander got pass marks. Tav is a good captain and becoming mr serious like the gaffer Utter pish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, The Dude said: There's nothing like proving your point by using a historically wrongly attributed quote to prove your point. Twain said, quoting Benjamin Disraeli. Except there's no record of Disreali having ever used it at any point, either spoken or in any written work. Twain popularised it, the point is statistics can be used to misinterpret the truth and you doing so contributes to prove Twain’s quote, secondhand as it might be. Without giving any basis on how many failed assists which is what annoys me most about Tavernier then your statistics is as you quoted”speaking shite” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LochendBilly 8,413 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, The Blues said: We were unlucky to lose. Only Tav,Barsisic,jack and helander got pass marks. Tav is a good captain and becoming mr serious like the gaffer Fucking dug shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: Gerrard may well have said to Tav depending on how the game is going it's your decision There's no chance that's happening. If you've got a player who might not fancy it, he doesn't get the option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: Twain popularised it, the point is statistics can be used to misinterpret the truth and you doing so contributes to prove Twain’s quote, secondhand as it might be. Without giving any basis on how many failed assists which is what annoys me most about Tavernier then your statistics is as you quoted”speaking shite” So he popularised a quote by misattributing a quote. Magic. A 'failed assist'? What is a failed assist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, The Dude said: So he popularised a quote by misattributing a quote. Magic. A 'failed assist'? What is a failed assist? One of his corners that fail to get past the first man, or one of his crosses that go out out for a throwing at the opposite side, that’s two contributions to a “failed assist “ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: One of his corners that fail to get past the first man, or one of his crosses that go out out for a throwing at the opposite side, that’s two contributions to a “failed assist “ So an incomplete pass is now a 'failed assist'? Does this criteria apply to any particular passes or just ones from Tavernier? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,490 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Only Kent didn't get pass mark ffs Kamara and dinny try say any different Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,621 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Tav's delivery was good on Sunday, Barasic's wasn't quite up to his usual standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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