KingKirk 25,755 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 We spent alot of money on the big man and he seems to struggle to stay or get fit. I think 2 centre backs are a must tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 83,130 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Drew attention to how shite our defence currently is the other day and was told it's our strongest area in the team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,064 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: Drew attention to how shite our defence currently is the other day and was told it's our strongest area in the team Funny you say that, I mentioned after the injury to Katic that we needed to spend on a centre back....the general consensus in here is that the defence is the least of our worries we maybe didn't concede lots of goals last season but the ones we did concede were as cheap as fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperLeeMcCulloch 2,344 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 think the big man is the best CB at the club, fitness and injuries do seem to be an issue but. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,566 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, .Williamson. said: Drew attention to how shite our defence currently is the other day and was told it's our strongest area in the team Helander issue would make me change my mind on that, didn't know he was still out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 83,130 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, hammer93 said: Funny you say that, I mentioned after the injury to Katic that we needed to spend on a centre back....the general consensus in here is that the defence is the least of our worries we maybe didn't concede lots of goals last season but the ones we did concede were as cheap as fuck Aye people seem to have allowed themselves to forget some of the horrific mistakes we made at the back at times last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 We've got Edmunson and Goldson (Helander and Katic injured) and we have just signed Calvin Bassey who came from Leicester as a LB, and CB can play CB. A guy with huge potential, but not much chance he's taking Barisic's position full time, unless inured - so maybe he's being earmarked as stand-in for either positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swally 6,289 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 He's not as bad as Rossiter yet, let's give him a chance to come back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,054 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, WATP-FOREVER said: We've got Edmunson and Goldson (Helander and Katic injured) and we have just signed Calvin Bassey who came from Leicester as a LB, and CB can play CB. A guy with huge potential, but not much chance he's taking Barisic's position full time, unless inured - so maybe he's being earmarked as stand-in for either positions. Bassey is miles from being ready, especially as a centre half. He looks a unit, but his positional sense is that of a guy who hasn't played proper professional football at a decent level. Which is what he is regardless of potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,442 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said: Bassey is miles from being ready, especially as a centre half. He looks a unit, but his positional sense is that of a guy who hasn't played proper professional football at a decent level. Which is what he is regardless of potential. Spot on. Saw one instance last night (when he had moved to CB) where he had chased a ball down on the right flank. Goldson ushered him back into the middle but he still hadn't a clue where to go and who to mark. He just looked lost. No way should he be played at CB in a competitive game yet. As for Helander, what exactly is his injury now....is it still the mysterious foot injury? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,054 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, LegendofCoop said: Spot on. Saw one instance last night (when he had moved to CB) where he had chased a ball down on the right flank. Goldson ushered him back into the middle but he still hadn't a clue where to go and who to mark. He just looked lost. No way should he be played at CB in a competitive game yet. As for Helander, what exactly is his injury now....is it still the mysterious foot injury? Saw that too. Goldson telling him he was left CB and the lad seeming like the penny dropped only when he was told. The thumb or Dykes could have a field day with him, if I were opposition thats who I'd target. And its not his fault, he's got potential but no experience. Helander - no idea - the silence on him from the club is concerning though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCPRANGERS1 2,997 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 With Katic out long term and Helanders ongoing injury issues another CB is an absolute must imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,215 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Get Kipre in from Wigan now they’re relegated, get in quick before someone else does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger 8,253 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, LegendofCoop said: Spot on. Saw one instance last night (when he had moved to CB) where he had chased a ball down on the right flank. Goldson ushered him back into the middle but he still hadn't a clue where to go and who to mark. He just looked lost. No way should he be played at CB in a competitive game yet. As for Helander, what exactly is his injury now....is it still the mysterious foot injury? Noticed that too. I hope there’s potential there but far from impressed with him so far. I can see him getting caught out a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,173 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: Get Kipre in from Wigan now they’re relegated, get in quick before someone else does Kipper would be a good backup to Goldson and the fridge. Not getting my hopes up of seeing Helander for the foreseeable future. We bought him knowing he had a dodgy injury history and took a chance because it was cheaper for the quality of player. We need cheap, experienced and ready to go with no injury worries as 3rd choice and then give Mayo a chance at 4th choice. No way should we be buying another 2 centre backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,173 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Swagger said: Noticed that too. I hope there’s potential there but far from impressed with him so far. I can see him getting caught out a lot He ain't a centre back, hes a converted left back that's still too young to be doing that with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,215 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, esquire8 said: Kipper would be a good backup to Goldson and the fridge. Not getting my hopes up of seeing Helander for the foreseeable future. We bought him knowing he had a dodgy injury history and took a chance because it was cheaper for the quality of player. We need cheap, experienced and ready to go with no injury worries as 3rd choice and then give Mayo a chance at 4th choice. No way should we be buying another 2 centre backs. Kipre wouldn’t be behind Edmundson, he’s improved a lot since up here and there premiership interest in him now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,730 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I’d be offering 600k or something for Kipre. Always thought he was decent when he was up here. Think he’s definitely kicked on in the championship and became an even better player now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,173 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, 6superbarry6 said: Kipre wouldn’t be behind Edmundson, he’s proved a lot since up here and there premiership interest in him now Still played for a team that just narrowly avoided relegation legitimately, despite what happened if you know what I mean. Good player now? Yes ofcourse but I think the fridges performances so far in the friendlies deserve a proper run in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire8 43,173 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: I’d be offering 600k or something for Kipre. Always thought he was decent when he was up here. Think he’s definitely kicked on in the championship and became an even better player now. They are still in administration so will accept any meaningful offer for him. Go as cheap as the administrators will accept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,215 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 minute ago, esquire8 said: Still played for a team that just narrowly avoided relegation legitimately, despite what happened if you know what I mean. Good player now? Yes ofcourse but I think the fridges performances so far in the friendlies deserve a proper run in the team. Not convinced with Edmundson tbh mate, gives the ball away far too cheaply for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,730 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, esquire8 said: They are still in administration so will accept any meaningful offer for him. Go as cheap as the administrators will accept. 100%. Think they paid about a mill for him so in terms of a quick deal and getting him in this week I’d make sure offer is accepted straight away. We can’t play either a third or half the season with Edmundson and Goldson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,677 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 minute ago, 6superbarry6 said: Not convinced with Edmundson tbh mate, gives the ball away far too cheaply for me That is the most notable thing about him for me. His distribution is shocking. Has the tools and does the basics well but more than the basics are required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 18,677 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Really not convinced with Bassey early doors, especially as a CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,215 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: 100%. Think they paid about a mill for him so in terms of a quick deal and getting him in this week I’d make sure offer is accepted straight away. We can’t play either a third or half the season with Edmundson and Goldson Not to mention there’s premiership clubs sniffing about so best to get in there quick, think Watford were linked and now they’re looking like going down they’ll probably make a move Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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