JamieD 19,400 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 hours ago, ayrshireranger said: Hope these ***** get knocked out. Messi and all. Can't understand how anyone can fail to enjoy this, apart from the Dutch. Football needs colour, diversity of characters. I want Argentina to be bastards. It's what they're there for. ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,400 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, sassaaaa said: All great players but Messi has achieved more than any of them ever had and played at a higher level for a longer period of time than the lot of them. Hes won more as well and the only reason he wont have a world cup is because Argentina have never had good enough players around him. Everything you have seen Maradona do this wee guy has done it dozens of times more in major tournaments against the best defenders on the planet. His level of consistency is one of the main reasons hes the greatest player theres ever been. Most people in the game know hes the greatest. Yeah, for all the stuff about Maradona "singlehandedly" winning the World Cup, his teammates scored 9 goals in 1986. When he set them up, they scored. Messi has somehow apparently created more chances than any other player in World Cup history, and managed to take his country to a final, with his teammates contributing three goals on the way. TheKingObv and sassaaaa 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheKingObv 10,698 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 hours ago, ayrshireranger said: Hope these ***** get knocked out. Messi and all. Screams of someone who has never played football before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,400 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, TheKingObv said: It's weird, I definitely think Messi has been less successful, less likeable and less fun to watch since he started to develop a "personality" (i.e, get tattoos, go down more easily, generally being a bit of a dick) but maybe it's what he needs for Argentina, being a dick being the soul of Argentinean football and all. graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 14,719 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 hours ago, graeme_4 said: Can’t wait until France silence the English pundits. This is where i get frustrated with it. I want and hope for England to do well, but these pundits and their media just go on and on. If the media showed as much class and dignity as their team, i think more people up here would want them to do well. graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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graeme_4 35,590 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, JamieD said: It's weird, I definitely think Messi has been less successful, less likeable and less fun to watch since he started to develop a "personality" (i.e, get tattoos, go down more easily, generally being a bit of a dick) but maybe it's what he needs for Argentina, being a dick being the soul of Argentinean football and all. He strikes me as the wee guy at school who was an absolute geek, and then finally got off with a girl in 5th year and swaggered about thinking he was King Kong. Can’t wait until they get knocked out. JamieD and Orange Persson 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,698 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: He strikes me as the wee guy at school who was an absolute geek, and then finally got off with a girl in 5th year and swaggered about thinking he was King Kong. Can’t wait until they get knocked out. graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabc10000 5,061 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 7 hours ago, ayrshireranger said: Then I am Simple Simon. Amazing player, but some of us are lucky enough to have seen Maradona in his prime. I started following the game in 1982, and have seen Platini, Zico, Zidane, Matthaus, Socrates, the real Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Baggio, Ronaldinho, as well as Messi and the more recent greats. My Dad is old enough to have seen Best, Di Stefano, Puskas, Cruyff, Pele, Rivelino, Jairzinho, Beckenbauer. Messi is a genius, but to say he is way above Maradona and some of the names above. is just simplistic to say the least. Maradona remains the greatest I have ever seen, with Messi, Zidane and Ronaldinho just behind. I still don't get the whole Messi Vs cr7 debate. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. However all of us should have really enjoyed the fact we got to witness 2 of the games greatest at their peaks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC10 1,449 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 The Argentina team are so unlikeable that it almost makes them likeable. TheKingObv 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,698 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, JC10 said: The Argentina team are so unlikeable that it almost makes them likeable. It's the fact they make no efforts to conceal how cuntish they are which is appealing. TBagalag 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,479 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, graeme_4 said: Stupid and daft rather than classless Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,400 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, TheKingObv said: It's the fact they make no efforts to conceal how cuntish they are which is appealing. This. I dislike players like Scholes, who was a nasty prick but pretended to just be a bad tackler and affected a shy persona. Argentina and Uruguay are committed villains, which the game needs. It's no coincidence that yesterday was the most fun game so far. TheKingObv and blaudrup 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,698 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, JamieD said: This. I dislike players like Scholes, who was a nasty prick but pretended to just be a bad tackler and affected a shy persona. Argentina and Uruguay are committed villains, which the game needs. It's no coincidence that yesterday was the most fun game so far. The guy booting the ball into the Holland dugout was full-scale shithousery and I'm here for it. blaudrup 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Persson 548 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Think England could be a surprise here. Problem is they haven't played a top team yet, but I think they are a top team themselves. If they reduce Mbape impacting the game, I see them doing well. Of course, any underperformance or mistakes from them will cost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserJon 12,544 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Starting without Ronaldo again. Wonder how he will deal with that🤷♂️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,752 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Some picture . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham 3,478 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, KaiserJon said: Starting without Ronaldo again. Wonder how he will deal with that🤷♂️ should be ok with it. hes all about the team Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserJon 12,544 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Graham said: should be ok with it. hes all about the team 😀👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham 3,478 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, KaiserJon said: 😀👍 at the rate this games going he'll have left by half time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 72,479 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Go on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserJon 12,544 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 This could be a good game with the timing of the goal👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 91,328 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 That's a brilliant leap Zappa6995 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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