Popular Post BlueSuedeSambas 56,559 Posted Saturday at 19:50 Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 19:50 7 minutes ago, Leftpegcoopz11 said: Shipped alot of goals for the team he manages. Scored a hell of alot though. Might play exciting football. Top of the league even though it's not the strongest league. Worked under that Aussie cunt that managed them. We should have took the punt on him at the time. Clements style of football is garbage, at least he might have treated the shit in our league without respect and just battered them. Clement was a stronger candidate than Muscat on paper. MacBoyd, J-Maestro, WWTC and 7 others 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftpegcoopz11 5,198 Posted Saturday at 19:52 Share Posted Saturday at 19:52 Just now, BlueSuedeSambas said: Clement was a stronger candidate than Muscat on paper. Is this where I come back mate and say "football isn't played on paper" At the time I was swaying to Muscat. ExiledWeegie123 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,969 Posted Saturday at 20:01 Share Posted Saturday at 20:01 I'll be honest I just hope to see the back of him. The board deserve huge criticism though for the crazy decision to give him a new deal Leftpegcoopz11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,917 Posted Saturday at 20:08 Share Posted Saturday at 20:08 1 hour ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: Why muscat? What's he done to deserve it? He's managed to win titles in Australia, Japan and currently on track to win title in China. We can rip the pish out of the standards of these league but postecoglou came from similar background and look how he did here. He's meant to play a similar style as well to postecoglou. Very attack minded and high energy. A style we've also seen work in this league. Is it risk free of course not. But I think it's a risk worth taking. Leftpegcoopz11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superallysbears 8,287 Posted Saturday at 20:13 Share Posted Saturday at 20:13 BlueKnight87, DT78 and Leftpegcoopz11 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftpegcoopz11 5,198 Posted Saturday at 20:46 Share Posted Saturday at 20:46 44 minutes ago, RM Monitor And Standards Officer said: I'll be honest I just hope to see the back of him. The board deserve huge criticism though for the crazy decision to give him a new deal The shit thing is he's too stubborn to listen to outside noise, or change his philosophy, or story as he calls it. I'm done with him and I hate saying that. His style of football is utter pish and he won't change it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftpegcoopz11 5,198 Posted Saturday at 20:49 Share Posted Saturday at 20:49 39 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said: He's managed to win titles in Australia, Japan and currently on track to win title in China. We can rip the pish out of the standards of these league but postecoglou came from similar background and look how he did here. He's meant to play a similar style as well to postecoglou. Very attack minded and high energy. A style we've also seen work in this league. Is it risk free of course not. But I think it's a risk worth taking. It was a risk worth taking. Rip the cunt out of the shite teams in our league which helps with Europe. Clement shows too much respect to the pish in our league, whether intentionallyor not. He has no clue how to set a team out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,663 Posted Saturday at 21:07 Share Posted Saturday at 21:07 52 minutes ago, BlueKnight87 said: He's managed to win titles in Australia, Japan and currently on track to win title in China. We can rip the pish out of the standards of these league but postecoglou came from similar background and look how he did here. He's meant to play a similar style as well to postecoglou. Very attack minded and high energy. A style we've also seen work in this league. Is it risk free of course not. But I think it's a risk worth taking. Postecoglu was given fucking multi millions and a good 6 months to build his high energy attack minded team, Up until he got hatate and maeda in the jan window they were struggling big time Wether clement stays or not or turns it around or not who knows, but saying muscat should come in and like flicking a switch he'll suddenly turn us into a fast paced attacking team is mental Had we had more money in the summer and other players moved on, and been better injury wise we'd have a much much better front 4, we have two mids in barron and diomande who want to move the ball quicker, just a pity our backline is still nor the best Only money will fix it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers_no1 34,786 Posted Saturday at 21:28 Share Posted Saturday at 21:28 1 hour ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: Postecoglu was given fucking multi millions and a good 6 months to build his high energy attack minded team, Clement spent around 16m this summer, fatty spent about 19m in his first summer. I know you have a real habit of exaggerating things and making situations seem totally different but lets not act like fatty spent far more money than the likes of Clement and Beale in their first summers. 1 hour ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: Up until he got hatate and maeda in the jan window they were struggling big time Winning 12/14 league games from October, drawing the two others due to missing numerous chances and winning the league cup is so far from 'struggling' lets be honest. 1 hour ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: we have two mids in barron and diomande who want to move the ball quicker, just a pity our backline is still nor the best Diomande is pish, you and a select few others need to stop making excuses for him. 1 hour ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: Only money will fix it We've spent over 30m in the last three transfer windows and are in a position similar to pre Gerrard. Our position is not based on lack of investment, it's due to shit signings and two managers who haven't a clue. BlueKnight87, Iakona, .Williamson. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,663 Posted Saturday at 22:30 Share Posted Saturday at 22:30 55 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Clement spent around 16m this summer, fatty spent about 19m in his first summer. I know you have a real habit of exaggerating things and making situations seem totally different but lets not act like fatty spent far more money than the likes of Clement and Beale in their first summers. Winning 12/14 league games from October, drawing the two others due to missing numerous chances and winning the league cup is so far from 'struggling' lets be honest. Diomande is pish, you and a select few others need to stop making excuses for him. We've spent over 30m in the last three transfer windows and are in a position similar to pre Gerrard. Our position is not based on lack of investment, it's due to shit signings and two managers who haven't a clue. They dropped 11pts in their first 7 games, their 12 wins from october onwards to winter shutdown, 5 of them were by a single goal We've dropped 5pts from our first 6 league games and still in the league Cup, So by spending less than fatty, having less saleable assets to fund the rebuild as well, clement has started his clear out season better than fatty did Fuck sake we aren't doing well the now and a CL level team in lyon skelped us (they skelped us under gerrard who had an invincible winning title team as well) but the overreaction at times is mental We have spent 30mill in the last 3 windows, beale spent half of that, ao far both clement and fatty have spent the same and we have started our rebuild season better than they did, if come jan we are still playing honking then aye its a massive problem J-Maestro 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers_no1 34,786 Posted Saturday at 22:42 Share Posted Saturday at 22:42 17 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: We've dropped 5pts from our first 6 league games and still in the league Cup, Wait you're not actually sticking up for our start to the season? Surely not? 17 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: Fuck sake we aren't doing well the now and a CL level team in lyon skelped us (they skelped us under gerrard who had an invincible winning title team as well) but the overreaction at times is mental Lyon have not been in the CL for the last 5 seasons and likely won't be in it next year either. Gerrard and Gios sides would have beaten Lyon on Thursday. They didn't skelp us in the 0-2 game either, they only had 2 shots on target. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 25,663 Posted Saturday at 23:10 Share Posted Saturday at 23:10 18 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Wait you're not actually sticking up for our start to the season? Surely not? Lyon have not been in the CL for the last 5 seasons and likely won't be in it next year either. Gerrard and Gios sides would have beaten Lyon on Thursday. They didn't skelp us in the 0-2 game either, they only had 2 shots on target. Nope our start has been poor, but so was fattys when he rebuilt the tarriers Gerrard didnt lay a glove on lyon that season either, absolutely no chance his team were beating Thursday nights lyon mob So whats the idea then? Sack another manager 3 months and one proper window into a rebuild, then once we've paid him off (and his team) bring another new manager in, tell him he has fuck all to spend cause ae paid off clement and his crew and probably has a full team that either he wont want or they wont want to be here anymore Imagine the tarriers sacked fatty after 6 league games (where they lost 3) going out the CL to midtjylland, made it to the EL groups but lost their first 2 games including a 4-0 scudding at home lff leverkusen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,969 Posted Saturday at 23:13 Popular Post Share Posted Saturday at 23:13 2 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: Nope our start has been poor, but so was fattys when he rebuilt the tarriers Gerrard didnt lay a glove on lyon that season either, absolutely no chance his team were beating Thursday nights lyon mob So whats the idea then? Sack another manager 3 months and one proper window into a rebuild, then once we've paid him off (and his team) bring another new manager in, tell him he has fuck all to spend cause ae paid off clement and his crew and probably has a full team that either he wont want or they wont want to be here anymore Imagine the tarriers sacked fatty after 6 league games (where they lost 3) going out the CL to midtjylland, made it to the EL groups but lost their first 2 games including a 4-0 scudding at home lff leverkusen That fat cunts rebuild looked like it was going somewhere. Ours? We are a shambles and concede he sams.goal and chance almost every game AGM_72, Rangers_no1, .Williamson. and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 37,762 Posted Saturday at 23:19 Author Share Posted Saturday at 23:19 47 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: They dropped 11pts in their first 7 games, their 12 wins from october onwards to winter shutdown, 5 of them were by a single goal We've dropped 5pts from our first 6 league games and still in the league Cup, So by spending less than fatty, having less saleable assets to fund the rebuild as well, clement has started his clear out season better than fatty did Fuck sake we aren't doing well the now and a CL level team in lyon skelped us (they skelped us under gerrard who had an invincible winning title team as well) but the overreaction at times is mental We have spent 30mill in the last 3 windows, beale spent half of that, ao far both clement and fatty have spent the same and we have started our rebuild season better than they did, if come jan we are still playing honking then aye its a massive problem The difference is you knew what he wanted out his team from his first training session, and it became really effective. Absolutely no idea what PC wants, and it’s becoming less effective the longer he’s here. Rangers_no1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers_no1 34,786 Posted Saturday at 23:20 Share Posted Saturday at 23:20 6 minutes ago, RM Monitor And Standards Officer said: That fat cunts rebuild looked like it was going somewhere. Ours? We are a shambles and concede he sams.goal and chance almost every game If Clement had arrived this summer he correctly would have more time to implement something. He's been here nearly a year and we've regressed. There's no identity, his subs are atrocious. He's not the answer, it's not even a discussion anymore as far as I'm concerned. AGM_72, .Williamson., RM Monitor And Standards Officer and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,969 Posted Saturday at 23:20 Share Posted Saturday at 23:20 Just now, Rangers_no1 said: If Clement had arrived this summer he correctly would have more time to implement something. He's been here nearly a year and we've regressed. There's no identity, his subs are atrocious. He's not the answer, it's not even a discussion anymore as far as I'm concerned. Was the losers fault apparently mate..now theyve all gone bar Tav and it will be fine when tav goes Rangers_no1 and AGM_72 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 32,665 Posted Saturday at 23:21 Share Posted Saturday at 23:21 12 minutes ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: Nope our start has been poor, but so was fattys when he rebuilt the tarriers Gerrard didnt lay a glove on lyon that season either, absolutely no chance his team were beating Thursday nights lyon mob So whats the idea then? Sack another manager 3 months and one proper window into a rebuild, then once we've paid him off (and his team) bring another new manager in, tell him he has fuck all to spend cause ae paid off clement and his crew and probably has a full team that either he wont want or they wont want to be here anymore Imagine the tarriers sacked fatty after 6 league games (where they lost 3) going out the CL to midtjylland, made it to the EL groups but lost their first 2 games including a 4-0 scudding at home lff leverkusen I agree, the overreaction to losing to a quality team like Lyon has been toxic. The financial gulf is massive, But with that said, Clement must recognize it and adapt accordingly. He didn't. We were exposed all over the park. I'm not sure if he is unwilling or unable to change formations, but he got it terribly wrong. He is not a good manager if he can't adapt to certain teams. SeparateEntityMyArse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKnight87 17,917 Posted Saturday at 23:40 Share Posted Saturday at 23:40 2 hours ago, Jimfanciesthedude said: Postecoglu was given fucking multi millions and a good 6 months to build his high energy attack minded team, Up until he got hatate and maeda in the jan window they were struggling big time Wether clement stays or not or turns it around or not who knows, but saying muscat should come in and like flicking a switch he'll suddenly turn us into a fast paced attacking team is mental Had we had more money in the summer and other players moved on, and been better injury wise we'd have a much much better front 4, we have two mids in barron and diomande who want to move the ball quicker, just a pity our backline is still nor the best Only money will fix it Clement has been here for a over a year now. Different story if he just arrived in the summer and was still finding his feet but he isn't. I don't think muscat would just walk in the door and suddenly transform our side into a fast paced attacking team. It would take time but at least it would be clear what we where working towards. A year on we're all still debating what Clement is actually trying to do. Only money won't fix this. Not without good coaching and instruction. I don't actually expect a change tbh. Clement will be here for more time but I'm seeing a lot of the same red flags that ended up getting Gio and Beale sacked in the end. RM Monitor And Standards Officer and SeparateEntityMyArse 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,529 Posted yesterday at 01:01 Share Posted yesterday at 01:01 Nobody gets anymore out this team. It's a team set up to finish 2nd and it will do. SeparateEntityMyArse and .Williamson. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,694 Posted yesterday at 01:02 Share Posted yesterday at 01:02 Just now, KingKirk said: Nobody gets anymore out this team. It's a team set up to finish 2nd and it will do. You’re a fucking clown. An absolute head the ball moron JackAlex93 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,529 Posted yesterday at 01:03 Share Posted yesterday at 01:03 2 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: You’re a fucking clown. An absolute head the ball moron Why Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 12,207 Posted yesterday at 02:59 Share Posted yesterday at 02:59 Unfortunately we’ve painted ourselves into a corner with the new deal we gave him and he won’t be going anywhere this season. I don’t see any chance he gets sacked, certainly not in 2024 and probably not any time this campaign. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SkylineBlue 25,819 Posted 23 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 23 hours ago If we appointed Muscat and found ourselves in a similar position to where we are now, which isn't unrealistic, the fan base would be going tonto at the board for not appointing a manager who had won titles in Europe. J-Maestro, OrkneyTrueBlue, KingKirk and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrkneyTrueBlue 9 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 21 minutes ago, SkylineBlue said: If we appointed Muscat and found ourselves in a similar position to where we are now, which isn't unrealistic, the fan base would be going tonto at the board for not appointing a manager who had won titles in Europe. I don't think Muscat is the answer either, comparing him with Postecoglou simply because he worked under him or has a simple playing style is car crash material, first and foremost we have to gain our identity back, we lack leaders all over the park, we lack our Scottish identity, jersey is far too heavy for too many who don't understand what it means to pull it on. Unfortunately we've built a rod for our own back turning our nose up at all things Scottish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,694 Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago He’s shite Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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