qwerty 3,800 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 5 hours ago, KingKirk said: Nothing changes without change at the very top. They've sold Clement a lemon once they are gone we can seriously consider manager change. These players aren't good enough it's that simple am done being angry. Realistically this isn't on them the are giving it 100% they just don't have the ability capable of taking us where we need to go. It's going to take years. New investment New management New squad. Then we can put up a fight to constantly be winning trophies. On the contrary Kingkurt, we can force the change at the top by voting with our feet at the very bottom, the longer us as fans accept this shite being served up to us the longer the misery will continue. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 92,919 Posted 6 hours ago Author Share Posted 6 hours ago Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veridian Dynamics 74 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Depressed as f**k last night, woke up this morning, still depressed as f**k Something needs to change, fast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post STEPPS BOY 77,741 Posted 6 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 6 hours ago 9 hours ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: The club lacks characters and strong personalities that give the support people to believe in at all levels and it’s created a culture of complete apathy. That’s what i said last night. There’s nobody since the Europa run that the fans believe in. Players like Mcgregor, Morelos, Kent, Arfield, Davis, Bassey etc weren’t perfect by any means but most fans believed in them and they had at points that wow factor Gerrard had that status. Gio being a legend the fans loved him. This manager and squad is just bland. Where are the heroes, where are your fan favourites. There is just nothing to get excited about. Malkytfp1, BlueAvenger, HG5 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 32,103 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Sours is going to be a massacre 😩 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 92,919 Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said: Sours is going to be a massacre 😩 Aye could turn a bit... HG5, JackAlex93, Tiger Shaw and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,520 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Veridian Dynamics said: Depressed as f**k last night, woke up this morning, still depressed as f**k Something needs to change, fast. This sounds like my internal dialogue whenever I’m assessing and reflecting on my own life Veridian Dynamics and SkylineBlue 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger 9,026 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Veridian Dynamics said: Depressed as f**k last night, woke up this morning, still depressed as f**k Something needs to change, fast. Cant see anything changing. Those out injured won’t bring much so we’re stuck with this shite. They won’t sack Clement so the comedy show continues At the very least we should see a team with a bit more urgency. These cunts are just going through the motions Veridian Dynamics 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 4,015 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 48 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said: Sours is going to be a massacre 😩 Aye and so could Spurs be Tiger Shaw 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 32,103 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 4 hours ago, Lord Lockin said: Aye and so could Spurs be 5 hours ago, born a blue nose said: Aye could turn a bit... 🤣 think Ive got cataracts or something my eyesights away to fuck these day Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,588 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Tiger Shaw said: Sours is going to be a massacre 😩 Anyone who thought us playing Spurs would be good is a bit soft in the head. Postecoglou‘s celtic sides more often than not battered us. His Spurs side is going to run right over the top of us. From the moment we drew them I couldn’t get my head around people being excited to see him bring Spurs to Ibrox STEPPS BOY, Negri's lovechild and Tiger Shaw 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 77,741 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: Anyone who thought us playing Spurs would be good is a bit soft in the head. Postecoglou‘s celtic sides more often than not battered us. His Spurs side is going to run right over the top of us. From the moment we drew them I couldn’t get my head around people being excited to see him bring Spurs to Ibrox Aye, and you just know that fat cunt will want to rub our noses in it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 32,103 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: Anyone who thought us playing Spurs would be good is a bit soft in the head. Postecoglou‘s celtic sides more often than not battered us. His Spurs side is going to run right over the top of us. From the moment we drew them I couldn’t get my head around people being excited to see him bring Spurs to Ibrox Lambs to the slaughter mate horrible draw for us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr3_bear 15,584 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago The Gerrard seasons and under Gio on road ro Seville I honestly would have welcomed anyone to Ibrox. Not saying we would have won but had a bit of belief we could go to toe to toe with anyone in Europe at that point and at least give a respectable showing of ourselves Now you are looking at old Trafford and spurs at home as damage limitation jobs Swagger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,588 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 6 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Aye, and you just know that fat cunt will want to rub our noses in it. Everything about that fixture is going to be nauseating, from his press conferences to the stories the media both sides of the border will be running Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger 9,026 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 10 minutes ago, cr3_bear said: The Gerrard seasons and under Gio on road ro Seville I honestly would have welcomed anyone to Ibrox. Not saying we would have won but had a bit of belief we could go to toe to toe with anyone in Europe at that point and at least give a respectable showing of ourselves Now you are looking at old Trafford and spurs at home as damage limitation jobs Aberdeen away in a few weeks could be damage limitation ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 26,521 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, STEPPS BOY said: That’s what i said last night. There’s nobody since the Europa run that the fans believe in. Players like Mcgregor, Morelos, Kent, Arfield, Davis, Bassey etc weren’t perfect by any means but most fans believed in them and they had at points that wow factor Gerrard had that status. Gio being a legend the fans loved him. This manager and squad is just bland. Where are the heroes, where are your fan favourites. There is just nothing to get excited about. Nobody from this current squad gets in any of gvb's or Gerrards squad. That just shows how much we've went backwards. BlueAvenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,596 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 6 hours ago, OrkneyTrueBlue said: We cannot afford to become that revolving door of sacking managers every 12 months, completely understand why Clement is being brought to task however who takes over ? Another manager to be presented with the same scenario under the current board ? Stick or twist every season is setting us so far back we have become almost unrecognisable on a Domestic and European front since 55 and Seville. For me it's from the top down, first and foremost their needs to be change at the very highest level, structure of the club is all over the place, Clements job is hard enough without an ill equipped board. My question is who takes us forward on the park with the resources at their disposal, both domestically and on the European stage ? Mate that's exactly what we have become. Gio comes in Nov 21 Beale comes in Nov 22 Clement comes in Nov 23 No one has any patience, we are all full of good intentions until the shit hits the fan and we're relentless until a new manager is brought in, realistically we should've stuck by Gio, to take us to the Europa League Final, manage to lift the squad to win the Cup a few days later and qualify for the UCL away at PSV is the kind of quality we can only dream of now. His record against the tims left a lot to be desired but we never gave him a chance to rectify it, 2022-23 might've became a write off but you'd hope that Gio would've used the funds he practically raised by himself, far better than Beale ever would. Negri's lovechild and OrkneyTrueBlue 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr3_bear 15,584 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 12 minutes ago, NixonRFC said: Mate that's exactly what we have become. Gio comes in Nov 21 Beale comes in Nov 22 Clement comes in Nov 23 No one has any patience, we are all full of good intentions until the shit hits the fan and we're relentless until a new manager is brought in, realistically we should've stuck by Gio, to take us to the Europa League Final, manage to lift the squad to win the Cup a few days later and qualify for the UCL away at PSV is the kind of quality we can only dream of now. His record against the tims left a lot to be desired but we never gave him a chance to rectify it, 2022-23 might've became a write off but you'd hope that Gio would've used the funds he practically raised by himself, far better than Beale ever would. Gio was let down by the board the summer after Seville Domestically his first season was also majorly frustrating and we did throw the title away The parkhead game they blew us away was a horror show , at Ibrox they edged out a 2-1 victory in a quite stuffy game if I remember correctly The next two games I actually thought he was starting to get to grips with them under Postecoglu . At Hampden a 2-1 victory where we looked remarkably fitter than them and a 1-1 at parkhead where again we finished the stronger and fitter team and came a sakala shot off the post from nicking it That summer after delivering a European final and then champions league football he was badly let down by the board. Not saying he was faultless but he already started that season with his hands tied behind his back and the parkhead 4-0 horror show exposed that. We have been going backwards at an alarming rate ever since that night in Eindhoven and the major fault lies with the board for letting it happen Negri's lovechild 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,596 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, cr3_bear said: Gio was let down by the board the summer after Seville Domestically his first season was also majorly frustrating and we did throw the title away The parkhead game they blew us away was a horror show , at Ibrox they edged out a 2-1 victory in a quite stuffy game if I remember correctly The next two games I actually thought he was starting to get to grips with them under Postecoglu . At Hampden a 2-1 victory where we looked remarkably fitter than them and a 1-1 at parkhead where again we finished the stronger and fitter team and came a sakala shot off the post from nicking it That summer after delivering a European final and then champions league football he was badly let down by the board. Not saying he was faultless but he already started that season with his hands tied behind his back and the parkhead 4-0 horror show exposed that. We have been going backwards at an alarming rate ever since that night in Eindhoven and the major fault lies with the board for letting it happen Aye, he certainly wasn't faultless, no arguments there but I also agree that I thought he had worked out how to play against Postecoglou, that 4-0 at parkhead and the absolute roastings we got in the Champions League meant he never really got a chance to recover, there was always a spanking just round the corner, but that's what happens when you punch well beyond your weight, we had no right to be in the CL with that squad and it was badly exposed. He was a kick of a ball away from what would've been our best ever result, IMO and it wasn't a fluke getting us there, I think he should've had enough good will in the bank to see out 2022-23 and get another summer to spend the money he made us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,520 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, NixonRFC said: Aye, he certainly wasn't faultless, no arguments there but I also agree that I thought he had worked out how to play against Postecoglou, that 4-0 at parkhead and the absolute roastings we got in the Champions League meant he never really got a chance to recover, there was always a spanking just round the corner, but that's what happens when you punch well beyond your weight, we had no right to be in the CL with that squad and it was badly exposed. He was a kick of a ball away from what would've been our best ever result, IMO and it wasn't a fluke getting us there, I think he should've had enough good will in the bank to see out 2022-23 and get another summer to spend the money he made us. See that’s fine to say with the benefit of hindsight, but when we were in the trenches and drawing 1-1 with St Mirren to fall 9 points behind celtic then there weren’t many people who would rationalise that. Nearly everybody wanted Gio gone at that point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,596 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: See that’s fine to say with the benefit of hindsight, but when we were in the trenches and drawing 1-1 with St Mirren to fall 9 points behind celtic then there weren’t many people who would rationalise that. Nearly everybody wanted Gio gone at that point. Mate I'm not using hindsight, I was as deflated as everyone else at the time but it was clear to see that Gio hadn't been backed in the transfer market, he led us to the Europa Final, managed to pick the bones of the squad up 3 days later to win our first Scottish Cup in 13 years, somehow got us into the UCL with an away win at a good PSV side, with a squad that was nowhere near good enough for that tournament, add to that we had an injury list that would make a hospital sweat. I wanted us to improve obviously, but I was willing to give Gio time and I wanted to see him with funds to bring his own players in. OrkneyTrueBlue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr3_bear 15,584 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: See that’s fine to say with the benefit of hindsight, but when we were in the trenches and drawing 1-1 with St Mirren to fall 9 points behind celtic then there weren’t many people who would rationalise that. Nearly everybody wanted Gio gone at that point. I agree with this also At the time though it's also hard to see clearly in the emotion of it all. After all as a support we had just seen a title and European final in the previous two seasons so what was unfolding didn't make logical sense and someone was always going to cop the flack for our disappointment Now we are on course for rinsing and repeating this cycle of manager merry go round for the 3rd year in a row and folk are more aware of the role the board has played in these numerous shambles Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrkneyTrueBlue 7 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, NixonRFC said: Mate that's exactly what we have become. Gio comes in Nov 21 Beale comes in Nov 22 Clement comes in Nov 23 No one has any patience, we are all full of good intentions until the shit hits the fan and we're relentless until a new manager is brought in, realistically we should've stuck by Gio, to take us to the Europa League Final, manage to lift the squad to win the Cup a few days later and qualify for the UCL away at PSV is the kind of quality we can only dream of now. His record against the tims left a lot to be desired but we never gave him a chance to rectify it, 2022-23 might've became a write off but you'd hope that Gio would've used the funds he practically raised by himself, far better than Beale ever would. One of the biggest if not thee biggest mistake post Gerrard was the sacking of Gio, treated disgustingly by the board and also a large percentage of the fans, how I wish we could turn the clock back. NixonRFC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,520 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, OrkneyTrueBlue said: One of the biggest if not thee biggest mistake post Gerrard was the sacking of Gio, treated disgustingly by the board and also a large percentage of the fans, how I wish we could turn the clock back. Gio should have been backed better than he was, but he fell on his own sword because he was making a meal of it with his pragmatic, boring tactics. There aren’t many mangers who are going to survive being 9 points behind celtic before the middle of November, and that’s exactly where we were. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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