Bad Robot 21,386 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 This deserved a repost and it's own thread: The Forgotten Ones I entered his street and immediately I knew which house was his…without looking at the numbers. His garden was his number…his identity. Red, blue and white flowers carefully pruned, giving a show of a bygone age…perhaps gone but obviously not forgotten. The vibrant colours of blue, red and white told their own story. Carefully nurtured and carefully tended…and they told me so much about the man I had come to see. The basics had not only been done well…..they had been strictly and faithfully observed…followed to the letter….resulting in a show of pure magnificence. Before I even chapped his door he was there inviting me in. And as we walked through his hallway I felt I was in a time warp…framed portraits dawned the wall…triggering my memory to remember players both my father and grandfather had spoken of. But furthermore there were pictures of players and managers I had never even heard of. As we entered his living room I caught a glimpse of our former monarch gazing down at me and immediately recognised it as Annigoni’s portrait from the 1950’s of Queen Elizabeth the Second. And around the room I was taken back through time…some from my early years…but some even from before even my grandfather’s time. For there above the fireplace hung a picture of William of Orange on his white horse…victoriously crossing the Boyne. At this point I knew my paper’s researchers had done their job well. This Ranger’s supporter was most certainly one who we would refer to as “old school”…and that was exactly what my remit was. To interview one of the “forgotten ones”. As I spoke with this old gent it was hard to believe that anyone could ever have taken issue with him….or the things he honoured and defended could ever be seen as offensive. His manner was assured…and his voice steady….you knew the moment you spoke to him that nothing but truth emanated from his lips. “So how did it start I asked him…what was the catalyst ?” He thought long and hard before he spoke. “Well it wasn’t just one thing” he said. “More a combination of factors”. I asked him to elaborate. “At the time there was fairly vitriolic campaign against Rangers by certain sections of the media…no matter what Rangers fans did it would be reported in a negative fashion” “Such as ?” I asked. “Well when I was younger I attended a European match and we had a huge card display before the game…one of the biggest ever…with Saltires and Union Flags…it looked magnificent, but afterwards all the press would say was that Ibrox looked like a Nuremberg Rally” How ironic I thought. In a country where immigrants received classes in “Being British” that home grown British citizens showing their loyalty to flag and crown could be compared to Nazis. “And it went on… he continued…bit by bit they kept chipping away…and the more they chipped the more defiant we became. We loved our club and refused to let it be tarnished by the negative press and their lies. We were fighting for more than a football club…we were fighting for a set of beliefs….a way of life” As I listened to the old gent speak my memory was taken back and I remembered conversations with my grandparents about “the old Rangers”. To a time where supporting the club was not orchestrated like a directed play…tedious and predictable, lacking feeling and passion but was instead spontaneous…imaginative…colourful and not forced. To a time when banners and songs said so much about the people who sung them and what they believed in. When to be a Ranger truly reflected the person you were. “And then of course there was the anti-sectarian initiative”. …he continued. I listened in awe as the old gent recounted the impact of Holyrood’s legislative impact. I almost had to pinch myself to ensure I was hearing correctly. My sense of disbelief was due to the revelations years afterwards regarding the same Labour Party who had been the architects of this legislation. How could it be the same party whose “west coast mafia” was commonly spoken of in journalistic circles….whose own sectarian scandals exposed in places like Monklands…could have the gall to drive through such legislation. ? “It was another time…another place” the old gent retorted. “Spin doctors and a favourable press ensured a smooth passage” Ah “spin doctors”….it had been years since I had heard anyone use that term….its use nowadays in politics was political suicide…for since this old gents day the spin doctors had been exposed for what they were ….professional liars who dressed up bad news or even worse… twisted and distorted the truth and misled the public. “And what of those inside Ibrox….those with the power…what did they do to defend the club ?” I enquired. He looked at me ruefully and thought long and hard before answering. “They say time is a great healer but I find it hard to forgive them. They were warned time and time again about the consequences of their failure to respond to the lies…to the accusations against the club. But they did not listen and they did not defend the club. Instead they pursued an agenda of appeasing the press and their lies…the only time they responded was when they themselves were criticised.” “And what affect did that have ?” I asked . For the first time during our interview I saw emotion in the old gents eyes…not just sadness but a deep sense of pain. “In the end we came to realise that the club…the institution…the way of life we were fighting for bore no semblance to that which masqueraded as Rangers Football Club. They continued to appease the press and politicians to the point that they drove and banned their very own supporters from Ibrox itself” Had it not been for my previous research it would have been difficult to believe what the old gent was saying, but I knew it to be true. The difficult bit was trying to understand it. Hindsight only made it more difficult to understand exactly what the “guardians” of Rangers were trying to achieve. For they had at their disposal this priceless gem…this body of people who lived for the Rangers…whose lives embodied everything which this club stood for…who were wonderful ambassadors for this once great club…and not only did the fail to hold onto this priceless gem…they actively threw it away. Unforgivable. And of course the rest as they say is history. Rangers became a club without a soul…without traditions and lacking in heritage no longer an institution or a way of life. Ibrox…when fans bothered to attend…was like a morgue…devoid of spontaneous atmosphere…and the only singing was when the “customers” bothered to respond to the screen prompts pleading with them to sing. It’s a true saying…. sometimes you only truly appreciate something when it is gone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shally 0 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Ok, I'll ask. WTF does that even mean? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumloyal 15,056 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 43 minutes ago, shally said: Ok, I'll ask. WTF does that even mean? If you don't get the warning contained within the hypothetical narrative, perhaps you lack the intelligence to be a Ranger. There may be a paedo harbouring team in the East that may be more suited to you.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuistraHairDo 12,506 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 31 minutes ago, shally said: Ok, I'll ask. WTF does that even mean? ok, I'll answer. if you know, you know, If you don't know, you don't matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
denya 1,661 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I really hope things don't ever come to that but sadly its slowly heading that way (the last paragraph I'm referring to. Sadly the rest has already happened). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Might be a good time to quote this gem from the recently published annual report. "Relationships which were all but destroyed with national and local politicians and the football authorities are being reinstated and reinforced." These people despise us - ram your 'relationships' where the sun don't shine Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose48 951 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 5 hours ago, shally said: Ok, I'll ask. WTF does that even mean? Did you actually take the time to read it, all of it. If you are a Rangers fan and a protestant, you will, or should understand exactly what it means. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenzie2386 17 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 5 hours ago, Drumloyal said: If you don't get the warning contained within the hypothetical narrative, perhaps you lack the intelligence to be a Ranger. There may be a paedo harbouring team in the East that may be more suited to you.... The Diplomatic Corps lost a good one when they lost you, eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 7 hours ago, shally said: Ok, I'll ask. WTF does that even mean? 55 minutes ago, kenzie2386 said: The Diplomatic Corps lost a good one when they lost you, eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller time 4,988 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 7 hours ago, shally said: Ok, I'll ask. WTF does that even mean? Your first post and you say that Fuck off child raper Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binsy08 362 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 7 hours ago, shally said: Ok, I'll ask. WTF does that even mean? If you don't know what that means, fuck off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,987 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 7 hours ago, shally said: Ok, I'll ask. WTF does that even mean? It means you'll be gone from here soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyscott1963 18,457 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Excellent piece D'Artagnan. It's all about being a Rangers fan and also a love of Queen andCountry. The ghuests will struggle with it as there is no hate of living in a foreign country,violence,intimidation and fighting with authority contained in it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyruff 622 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Sentiments intelligently expressed, that no Ranger should have difficulty understanding or feeling an affinity with. As always great work from D'art. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,386 Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 10 hours ago, shally said: Ok, I'll ask. WTF does that even mean? Try removing the priests cock from your mouth first before you start slabbering your pish on here Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big blue Fin 3,724 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 10 hours ago, shally said: Ok, I'll ask. WTF does that even mean? Any Rangers fan who has to ask isn't really a Rangers fan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooseman 889 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 5 hours ago, bluenose48 said: Did you actually take the time to read it, all of it. If you are a Rangers fan and a protestant, you will, or should understand exactly what it means. Mate, I'm a Rangers fan, a mason and I served in the army but I'm not a protestant (nor a catholic for that matter) I completely get the meaning behind the post. Can we move past this whole good protestant thing? I appreciate that there are millions of Rangers fans that are protestant there are millions that are not, some a Jews , Muslim and I know at least a dozen that are Catholic and several Mormons. Strangely enough I've never met a jahovas witness that was a rangers fan. My point is everyone is welcome here, all faiths and all walks of life, don't alienate people because they aren't protestant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allanger 625 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Amen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CottonRunt 978 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Remember reading this years ago. Fantastic bit of writing, and even truer now than it was then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insider 123 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Fantastic article. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno's Manbun 2,631 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 20 hours ago, shally said: Ok, I'll ask. WTF does that even mean? I think I speak for the entire forum when I say..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger77 742 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Shally, are you a wally on the swally? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shally 0 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 On 31/10/2016 at 9:13 PM, Bad Robot said: This deserved a repost and it's own thread: The Forgotten Ones I entered his street and immediately I knew which house was his…without looking at the numbers. His garden was his number…his identity. Red, blue and white flowers carefully pruned, giving a show of a bygone age…perhaps gone but obviously not forgotten. The vibrant colours of blue, red and white told their own story. Carefully nurtured and carefully tended…and they told me so much about the man I had come to see. The basics had not only been done well…..they had been strictly and faithfully observed…followed to the letter….resulting in a show of pure magnificence. Before I even chapped his door he was there inviting me in. And as we walked through his hallway I felt I was in a time warp…framed portraits dawned the wall…triggering my memory to remember players both my father and grandfather had spoken of. But furthermore there were pictures of players and managers I had never even heard of. As we entered his living room I caught a glimpse of our former monarch gazing down at me and immediately recognised it as Annigoni’s portrait from the 1950’s of Queen Elizabeth the Second. And around the room I was taken back through time…some from my early years…but some even from before even my grandfather’s time. For there above the fireplace hung a picture of William of Orange on his white horse…victoriously crossing the Boyne. At this point I knew my paper’s researchers had done their job well. This Ranger’s supporter was most certainly one who we would refer to as “old school”…and that was exactly what my remit was. To interview one of the “forgotten ones”. As I spoke with this old gent it was hard to believe that anyone could ever have taken issue with him….or the things he honoured and defended could ever be seen as offensive. His manner was assured…and his voice steady….you knew the moment you spoke to him that nothing but truth emanated from his lips. “So how did it start I asked him…what was the catalyst ?” He thought long and hard before he spoke. “Well it wasn’t just one thing” he said. “More a combination of factors”. I asked him to elaborate. “At the time there was fairly vitriolic campaign against Rangers by certain sections of the media…no matter what Rangers fans did it would be reported in a negative fashion” “Such as ?” I asked. “Well when I was younger I attended a European match and we had a huge card display before the game…one of the biggest ever…with Saltires and Union Flags…it looked magnificent, but afterwards all the press would say was that Ibrox looked like a Nuremberg Rally” How ironic I thought. In a country where immigrants received classes in “Being British” that home grown British citizens showing their loyalty to flag and crown could be compared to Nazis. “And it went on… he continued…bit by bit they kept chipping away…and the more they chipped the more defiant we became. We loved our club and refused to let it be tarnished by the negative press and their lies. We were fighting for more than a football club…we were fighting for a set of beliefs….a way of life” As I listened to the old gent speak my memory was taken back and I remembered conversations with my grandparents about “the old Rangers”. To a time where supporting the club was not orchestrated like a directed play…tedious and predictable, lacking feeling and passion but was instead spontaneous…imaginative…colourful and not forced. To a time when banners and songs said so much about the people who sung them and what they believed in. When to be a Ranger truly reflected the person you were. “And then of course there was the anti-sectarian initiative”. …he continued. I listened in awe as the old gent recounted the impact of Holyrood’s legislative impact. I almost had to pinch myself to ensure I was hearing correctly. My sense of disbelief was due to the revelations years afterwards regarding the same Labour Party who had been the architects of this legislation. How could it be the same party whose “west coast mafia” was commonly spoken of in journalistic circles….whose own sectarian scandals exposed in places like Monklands…could have the gall to drive through such legislation. ? “It was another time…another place” the old gent retorted. “Spin doctors and a favourable press ensured a smooth passage” Ah “spin doctors”….it had been years since I had heard anyone use that term….its use nowadays in politics was political suicide…for since this old gents day the spin doctors had been exposed for what they were ….professional liars who dressed up bad news or even worse… twisted and distorted the truth and misled the public. “And what of those inside Ibrox….those with the power…what did they do to defend the club ?” I enquired. He looked at me ruefully and thought long and hard before answering. “They say time is a great healer but I find it hard to forgive them. They were warned time and time again about the consequences of their failure to respond to the lies…to the accusations against the club. But they did not listen and they did not defend the club. Instead they pursued an agenda of appeasing the press and their lies…the only time they responded was when they themselves were criticised.” “And what affect did that have ?” I asked . For the first time during our interview I saw emotion in the old gents eyes…not just sadness but a deep sense of pain. “In the end we came to realise that the club…the institution…the way of life we were fighting for bore no semblance to that which masqueraded as Rangers Football Club. They continued to appease the press and politicians to the point that they drove and banned their very own supporters from Ibrox itself” Had it not been for my previous research it would have been difficult to believe what the old gent was saying, but I knew it to be true. The difficult bit was trying to understand it. Hindsight only made it more difficult to understand exactly what the “guardians” of Rangers were trying to achieve. For they had at their disposal this priceless gem…this body of people who lived for the Rangers…whose lives embodied everything which this club stood for…who were wonderful ambassadors for this once great club…and not only did the fail to hold onto this priceless gem…they actively threw it away. Unforgivable. And of course the rest as they say is history. Rangers became a club without a soul…without traditions and lacking in heritage no longer an institution or a way of life. Ibrox…when fans bothered to attend…was like a morgue…devoid of spontaneous atmosphere…and the only singing was when the “customers” bothered to respond to the screen prompts pleading with them to sing. It’s a true saying…. sometimes you only truly appreciate something when it is gone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shally 0 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Still waiting to be informed about what the original post actually means I seem to be getting a lot of abuse for asking Is it religious? Is it football? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 27,063 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 25 minutes ago, shally said: Still waiting to be informed about what the original post actually means I seem to be getting a lot of abuse for asking Is it religious? Is it football? Tell you what, you tell us what it means to you, and we'll tell you if you're close. The floor's yours ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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