BritishBear 34 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 not working tonight. will have it early Mon to Friday this week though.No problem, cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 The sun says it's not a done deal yet. THE Blue Knights face an agonising wait to learn if they are to be handed the keys to Ibrox. 0 commentRelated StoriesClock's ticking to save RangersALLY McCOIST knows that time is running out in the fight to save crisis club RangersHearts 0 <br style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Rangers 3Andy's just loving life on the parkMiller's newco won't pay penaltyKnights have to firm up their bidNg fires his parting shotThe consortium led by Paul Murray spent the weekend closing in on a sensational Rangers rescue package.But SunSport understands talks with administrators Duff & Phelps will continue today and possibly even into tomorrow.Bean counter Paul Clark made today the deadline for final offers to be tabled or Gers face liquidation.But it's believed Murray — and rival US-based bidder Bill Miller — want guarantees from the SFA and SPL before finalising their deals.They fear sporting sanctions against Rangers if the club isn't officially taken out of administration before the start of the season.Clark has been unable to ease those worries therefore he will allow further discussions to take place over the next 24 hours.Former Ibrox director Murray is still believed to be the frontrunner after a weekend of frantic behind-the-scenes conference calls. Sale Sharks owner Brian Kennedy has been working alongside Murray, but it's understood he is now not part of his team.US-based businessman Miller is the only other interested party.His plan is to essentially liquidate the 140-year-old Ibrox outfit — which Gers fans are dead set AGAINST.The Knights want to go down the CVA route with creditors and hope to pay the £500,000 deposit in the next 24 hours which would see their bid rubber-stamped.They would then have two weeks of exclusivity to study Gers' books in fine detail and go through a process of due diligence.Crucially, Murray plans to open talks with the Ibrox stars who have accepted massive 75 per cent wage-cuts. He hopes they will agree to rip up those deals which can see them quit Gers for vastly reduced fees in the summer.That's his priority as he fears seeing the current squad dismantled for a fraction of what it's actually worth.Murray would also need to sit down with discredited owner Craig Whyte in the hope of securing his 85 per cent shareholding.Cash-strapped Gers would still face an uncertain future amid crippling debts and a battle with HMRC over unpaid taxes.But naming a preferred bidder would be a huge step forward with lifelong supporter Murray and his backers desperate to guide Gers back from the brink.The Knights spent Saturday and Sunday locked in discussions with London-based administrator Clark.But back on Friday April 13 they were told they were ahead of rival bids — on the proviso they paid the £500,000 deposit.They were left stunned when they learned major creditor Ticketus were no longer in their camp.Murray had a deal in place which would see the firm pay the £500,000 deposit to Duff & Phelps.But Ticketus moved the goal posts at the last minute by revealing they were in talks with Singapore businessman Bill Ng.It was only after his bid faltered late last week that Murray moved to strike a new deal with Ticketus. But further talks are required before a deal can finally be struck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,270 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 The Sun can fuck off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanh91 75 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 The sun just shouldn't be allowed to exist. There's weans in primary school that could muster a better attempt at writing a newspaper article than that pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Good to hear this has been doing the text rounds in terms of reliable info someone had heard I am still cautious but if this is all do-able, then I am for it. I may not be totally enamoured by the BK's but they are a better prospect than liquidation and a newco which would be a disgraceful outcome on so many levels.I just think we can't afford to give the keys to the kingdom to another calamitous figure like whyte so it's beter with a safety first option like TBK. Who knows Ng or Miller may have been the best thing that ever happened to us but I don't think we can take the risk of another charalatan running the club when we are at such a low ebb Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,825 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Like SDM or CW ? I'm done with one man owning OUR club. I will not invest one penny if we the fans are not represented on the board.One man won't be the owner unless one man buys up every share or at least most of them. The Blue Knights is a consortium of at least 4 people. There may be more in the background. They are all fans as well or do you have something against fans with more money than you? It's all very well demanding fan representation on the board but who would decide who the reps would be? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmon 1 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The Blue Knights may or may not get a CVA but even if they do our great club will go into liquidation. I have watched Rangers for 50 years and i am aware of what will happen. We are the people no surrender to the taiags, Phil, bluebloodbear and Tiger Shaw 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmon 1 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 One man won't be the owner unless one man buys up every share or at least most of them. The Blue Knights is a consortium of at least 4 people. There may be more in the background. They are all fans as well or do you have something against fans with more money than you? It's all very well demanding fan representation on the board but who would decide who the reps would be?Mark Dingwall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The ideal is to have fans who are businessmen on the board who want the club to succeed to protect their investment. This is why Yeltsin gave so many of the Russian national assetts to individuals because they would fight to protect them and in so doing make capitalism work Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Mark Dingwall. :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark. 69 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Don't trust TBK at all, don't think they have the funds. And Murray missed his chance IMO.But, if this is true, they have my full backing and heres hoping they do whats best for The Rangers.WATP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedrosHeroes 26 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Who's the people are TBK'S along with Murray Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 When we went into admin every one said one man should never own Rangers again. If the TBKS takeover everyone has got what they wanted. Rangers fans will now own the club if the TBKS get it.Plus the share issue most Rangers wanted that aswell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Who's the people are TBK'S along with MurrayRangers fans. Names will come out when it is announced they are the preferred bidders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The ideal is to have fans who are businessmen on the board who want the club to succeed to protect their investment. This is why Yeltsin gave so many of the Russian national assetts to individuals because they would fight to protect them and in so doing make capitalism workYeltsin was a drunk who didn't know what was going on as a mafia carved up assets for the benefit of their country self-interest.He was also a murderous bastard - "Between 1992 and 1994, the rise in the death rate in Russia was so dramatic that Western demographers did not believe the figures. Western and Russian demographers now agree that between 1992 and 2000, the number of “surplus deaths” in Russia–deaths that cannot be explained on the basis of previous trends–was between five and six million persons."Nice example - if you're intent on talking shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedrosHeroes 26 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Rangers fans.Yeah I know but will the fans get some shares etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserJon 12,393 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I want us saved by CVA but whoever gets us I want more detail and plans-hate being left in the dark-there have been various postings of the bids but whoever does achieve ownership they should realise with no fans onside you are not doing yourself s any favours-clear and concise terms of your plans are for me key! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'm quite reassured that Walter backed them ... ok he's not the font of all knowledge but at least he will know Murray well and whether or not he can be trusted Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Yeltsin was a drunk who didn't know what was going on as a mafia carved up assets for the benefit of their country self-interest.He was also a murderous bastard - "Between 1992 and 1994, the rise in the death rate in Russia was so dramatic that Western demographers did not believe the figures. Western and Russian demographers now agree that between 1992 and 2000, the number of “surplus deaths” in Russia–deaths that cannot be explained on the basis of previous trends–was between five and six million persons."Nice example - if you're intent on talking shite.I agree with most of that but the bottom line is if a few smart individuals hadn't had a position to defend the country could easily have went back to communism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Yeah I know but will the fans get some shares etcYes through a share issue which they have spoke about and have said if they do takeover this will happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobatai 70 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I agree with most of that but the bottom line is if a few smart individuals hadn't had a position to defend the country could easily have went back to communism.Yeltsin sold the assets to anyone with ready capital and usually people with close links to his family ... I believe his daughter or grand daughter was close to Roman Abramovich's ex-wife. The fact is, the IMF and the World Bank made aid to Russia conditional, with the condition being that the "towering heights" of the Russian economy be privatised. And privatised quickly. Thus, if you could get access to capital, you had a chance to get the crown jewels of the Russian economy at a knockdown price. Vladimir Putin has since spent much of his time trying to get them back, by fair means or foul. Khordokovsky ended up in the Siberian prison camp. Abramovich sold Sibneft to the state-controlled Gazprom. Other oligarchs are in exile, or tow the Putin line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinaman 1 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Dingwall has done more than any of you for the rangers causethere's some amount of numpties on here with their heads buried in the sandwhat have you done more than Dingwall?serious question Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonGrey 365 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Dingwall has done more than any of you for the rangers causethere's some amount of numpties on here with their heads buried in the sandwhat have you done more than Dingwall?serious questionWent to the gym? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM6 279 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Went to the gym? :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinaman 1 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 so...you have done nothing but post on the internet, whilst others are doing all they can to save our clubthis forum, albeit, some of the posts, are a jokedo some of you not know that we are potenially fuckedwhat have you done(personally) to ensure that our club will survive?mmmmmmm......ZEROsome amount of spackers on here Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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