Hadron Collider 30,883 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: The same terrible refs will still be making the decision Then they will really be shown up how incompetent they are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Flute 14,036 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Malvern said: If you bring in VAR you are by definition changing the rules mate. Just add the caveats and that is it in action. Right mate, as I understand it, VAR is used on the discretion of the referee and officials, we both agree aye? You are proposing that the discretion should be down to players/managers, and that each side should have 3 attempts as in Tennis, to which I sort of agree with, so it would require a change in the virgin VAR rules,? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Flute 14,036 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Goosetav said: Fuck VAR it's an absolute shambles No doubt work needs done on it, could because good thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,883 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 VAR was correct yesterday as that greasy bastard Ronaldo should’ve been sent off. Ref fucked up or he was told to fuck up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, 2nd Flute said: Right mate, as I understand it, VAR is used on the discretion of the referee and officials, we both agree aye? You are proposing that the discretion should be down to players/managers, and that each side should have 3 attempts as in Tennis, to which I sort of agree with, so it would require a change in the virgin VAR rules,? I don't see the point in the ref being the final arbiter of the judgement as they just get heckled all the time by players/managers and we have scenes like yesterdays match which were a farce at times. If the ref didn't give something he didn't see it as a problem so bitching about it after isn't really a helpful solution and in that aspect makes VAR a scapegoat for an idiot/biased/blind ref to "review" the incident. Give the Managers/Captain on the field 30 seconds to call for a review of a specific incident and three tries your done. Will stop all the running after the ref and crying for hours about how you didn't get the "stonewaller" of a penalty that never was or a red card. In cricket the umpire themselves can step in and ask for a review on a specific decision they find too close to call (penalty, red card, offside decisions only in my view but you could add violent conduct as well) which could also be implimented to allow the useless prick in black to feel important. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Flute 14,036 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Malvern said: I don't see the point in the ref being the final arbiter of the judgement as they just get heckled all the time by players/managers and we have scenes like yesterdays match which were a farce at times. If the ref didn't give something he didn't see it as a problem so bitching about it after isn't really a helpful solution and in that aspect makes VAR a scapegoat for an idiot/biased/blind ref to "review" the incident. Give the Managers/Captain on the field 30 seconds to call for a review of a specific incident and three tries your done. Will stop all the running after the ref and crying for hours about how you didn't get the "stonewaller" of a penalty that never was or a red card. In cricket the umpire themselves can step in and ask for a review on a specific decision they find too close to call (penalty, red card, offside decisions only in my view but you could add violent conduct as well) which could also be implimented to allow the useless prick in black to feel important. I like the idea mate, let's remember footballers are cheats, lol, 3 shots each as you say, they'd still complain to the referee lol, any cunt waving imaginary yellows to refs, if it proved to be shite,send the cunt off, cunts ripping shirts off opponents at corners, book them, good to see England score the other night, after the Panama antics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heshootshescores 1,904 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Our game is corrupt all the way to the top, and just like Blatters FIFA they will do everything they can to prevent control being taken from them. If you think decisions were bad last season watch how bad they become when we next challenge for the league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Flute 14,036 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 39 minutes ago, Heshootshescores said: Our game is corrupt all the way to the top, and just like Blatters FIFA they will do everything they can to prevent control being taken from them. If you think decisions were bad last season watch how bad they become when we next challenge for the league. Yes there's corruption, not everyone is corrupt, if that's the thinking, let's forget next season, there's no point? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,191 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 No . I don't think it's been a complete success at the WC , and I sure as he'll wouldn't trust our lot to run it properly here either . I'm sure I saw a ref in one of the games refuse to VAR what seemed a good penalty appeal , which leads me to think that we are really just shifting the onus of bad decisions to whether or not a ref decides to watch it . You can just imagine some of the more vocal managers getting decisions to view an incident just to give the ref peace , never mind those refs that feel they have to apologise to a certain manager whenever they call it wrong . No , I'd rather we just went with the refs call on this until we can get a more robust set up than what weve had already . Actually think Rugby's got a better system anyway . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,133 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 It'll only be the outside broadcast live games, so it is inherently unfair as most games are Rangers or that lot. Can only see it getting wheeled out for OF games to begin with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miracle 7,799 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 celtic matches would last for about 4 hours. Jamie0202 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,610 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Peter will get Father o fondle reviewing var on our matches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 30,883 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 It could be useful so we could watch the taigs ripping oot the seats at Ibrox. Then send in security/polis and get them tae fuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatasauce 1,253 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 It will open a can of worms, people are going to expect every decision to go the way they think it should an if it dosent somebody’s at it A ref who dosent have the option to use VAR can be put down to human error when making split second decisions, a ref who does have it an still makes the wrong call is an idiot who shouldn’t be a ref or is biased towards a certain team. in my own opinion, i savour the wins we don’t deserve as much as the ones we do so I’m biased towards VAR anyway, it takes away the excitement of the unknown for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluechip 359 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 The fat Jap wouldn't allow it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulbrian11 432 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Football is way too emotive and subjective for VAR. IF you got 3 people looking at any contentious decision you’d get 5 different opinions. There have been some farcical, albeit entertaining, moments already in this World Cup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vision 16,729 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 If the refs give Rangers a decision they'll end up getting their screens put in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Will it happen next season, no idea really but it will happen eventually and anyone thinking otherwise needs to get back on their meds. In the WC it has neither been an outstanding success nor has it been a complete failure but it certainly needs to be tweaked. Would like to see the stats on how many times it is used in the WC and how many decisions were changed as a result. Not sure if it is related to the VAR but this has been a pretty clean WC, so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heshootshescores 1,904 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 On 26/06/2018 at 23:35, 2nd Flute said: Yes there's corruption, not everyone is corrupt, if that's the thinking, let's forget next season, there's no point? Well we could give up I suppose, but having just got ourselves a decent management team I would rather give it a shot, hopefully with VAR ensuring we get a fair chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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