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1 minute ago, Bad Robot said:

Agree about Flannigan, he looks cumbersome and gave us no threat going forward which DJ does.

He doesn’t really look like he has a footballers brain.

What was with running way out of position and halfing that guy from behind towards the end? Made no sense. Looked like he was lucky to not get booked from where I sit.

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Just watched the game on TV, a tense and often poor performance. Team revamps and early european matches simply do not mix.

I didn't see the Bury game, but I am guessing they were more open than this tightly organised team. As SG said, no better than "satisfactory with work to be done".

 

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All about the result tonight not the performance. I'm not too disappointed as I actually thought that mob looked organised, fitter than us and it was rather difficult to break them down. They moved the ball well at times but never posed a danger in our half which is a major positive for me.

Sure I would have liked to have seen more fluency but we did create a number of chances and with better finishing should have been at least 3 clear.......2-0 sees this game in the bag. Sckupi played with 10 behind the ball and there is no way they can play as negatively again.

 

I take the positives out of tonight as I can appreciate it is difficult trying to break down such negative tactics with 10 behind the ball.

Hope we go with John at LB as thst is an area I felt we really lacked any purpose as Flannigan offered little in an attacking sense but hey 2-0 sees us through against a well disciplined team who can play a pass or two.

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4 minutes ago, Supersonic said:

It was the shittest déjà vu ever for most the match!

Totally agree with that, a re-run of last season written all over it, as for Morelos, deary me son, just put the ball in the net ffs.

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I think everyone is just deflated because they expected a total change from last couple of seasons.

Unfortunately too many players from previous regimes still on the pitch and one is even captain. Slightly worrying going forward. 

I'd almost managed to forget how much I dislike "Tav" and  "Josh". Murphy still manages to turn people inside out but isn't quick enough to get away and his crossing is abject. Ryan Jack should play for Nairn County. Kevin Thomson still talks about himself constantly when commentating. 

The more things change the more they stay the same.

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6 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said:

I’m really baffled too as to why we have signed the boy from Angers. 

We shouldn’t be playing two guys like Jack and McCrorie together in a midfield three so having another of that ilk is pointless. 

Crying out for a creative midfielder that isn’t needing a hip replacement.

Lad from Angers is seemingly athletic, strong and quick , I think he’ll play , mcrorrie will be in and out and jack won’t feature at all when it all settles down 

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14 minutes ago, Vanoli said:

Another season of utter disaster coming our way then. 

Probably tbh, if we’re being honest 

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4 minutes ago, Broxi said:

Bit of a stupid thing to say considering he's already proven to be one of the top players at a club like Aberdeen, of which we don't need to be reminded that they finished above us 2 years in a row now. Not saying he's good enough for us or not but saying he's Dundee standard makes less than no sense. 

Shut up. He's rubbish. 

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Just now, Teamgers said:

Totally agree with that, a re-run of last season written all over it, as for Morelos, deary me son, just put the ball in the net ffs.

Last week I was shocked when he scored a header from point blank against Bury, this week it was back to the same old. Frustrating as fuck sometimes :lol:

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2 minutes ago, Cedrick said:

Lad from Angers is seemingly athletic, strong and quick , I think he’ll play , mcrorrie will be in and out and jack won’t feature at all when it all settles down 

Hopefully it’s only one of the three of them then on the team sheet if it’s a 4-3-3.

Watching two ball winners in that formation will have me drinking paint stripper by season end.

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2 minutes ago, jjbscotty12 said:

Its not an overreaction but morelos is a terrible finisher and is not a Rangers number 9.  

Mate that word in itself is an overreaction. How can you be a terrible finisher when you're the 2nd top goalscorer in the league last season behind the SPL's all time top goal-scorer? He's a reasonable finisher (a better than 1 in 2 suggests that) but I agree he definitely needs to improve to get to the next level in his career. He's still young and in all honesty had a fantastic season for a young South American on his debut season in Scotland. Name one who has even came close to doing better.

I'm hopeful that with a new manager and new training methods he will get to that next level in terms of finishing.

When I said some should be embarrassed by their overreaction I meant that they are drawing conclusions on players/the team based on our first game of the season which, may I remind them, is in the early part of JULY.

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When a team is well organised and sits in deep with 10 men behind the ball it can always be very difficult, especially in our situation (1st game, half new team, new management). Even for the biggest & best teams in the world.

We certainly weren't awful. Had most possession, dealt with any threat and should have scored more. Became lethargic in possession and gradually the tempo got slower. To be expected in football matches at the start of July. Its going to be similar on Tuesday, quick turnaround & playing in 30 degree heat, it'll be a massive test for the fitness. 

Anyone who comes away from it shouting we're awful or this season is going to be a disaster honestly doesny have a fuckin clue about football. Go watch cricket. 

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Just now, McEwan's Lager said:

Hopefully it’s only one of the three of them then on the team sheet if it’s a 4-3-3.

Watching two ball winners in that formation will have me drinking paint stripper by season end.

Agree , I’ve had a gutfull of watching our midfield playing the ball 5 yards to the side all game , go try something fur fuck sake , mcrorrie was terrible for it tonight 

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6 minutes ago, gsa said:

I think everyone is just deflated because they expected a total change from last couple of seasons.

Unfortunately too many players from previous regimes still on the pitch and one is even captain. Slightly worrying going forward. 

I'd almost managed to forget how much I dislike "Tav" and  "Josh". Murphy still manages to turn people inside out but isn't quick enough to get away and his crossing is abject. Ryan Jack should play for Nairn County. Kevin Thomson still talks about himself constantly when commentating. 

The more things change the more they stay the same.

😂 

That has me buckled. Fair play.

But it’s truly terrifying!

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3 minutes ago, Camshy said:

All about the result tonight not the performance. I'm not too disappointed as I actually thought that mob looked organised, fitter than us and it was rather difficult to break them down. They moved the ball well at times but never posed a danger in our half which is a major positive for me.

Sure I would have liked to have seen more fluency but we did create a number of chances and with better finishing should have been at least 3 clear.......2-0 sees this game in the bag. Sckupi played with 10 behind the ball and there is no way they can play as negatively again.

 

I take the positives out of tonight as I can appreciate it is difficult trying to break down such negative tactics with 10 behind the ball.

Hope we go with John at LB as thst is an area I felt we really lacked any purpose as Flannigan offered little in an attacking sense but hey 2-0 sees us through against a well disciplined team who can play a pass or two.

Totally agree. Flanagan doesn't seem like an upgrade on DJ who I actually liked for the most part last season. Will need to see more of Flanagan and maybe (probably) he's more solid defensively. But tonight we were playing against nobodies who we should be pumping 4 or 5 past. John would have given us a bit more going forward I think 

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Just now, Cedrick said:

Agree , I’ve had a gutfull of watching our midfield playing the ball 5 yards to the side all game , go try something fur fuck sake , mcrorrie was terrible for it tonight 

Mcrorrie is a great athlete, his bursts of power to get in before people are incredible. Unfortuntly he's a very limited footballer. Doesn't see things ahead of him and even if he did, he doesn't have the ability to execute.

 

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2 minutes ago, gsa said:

Mcrorrie is a great athlete, his bursts of power to get in before people are incredible. Unfortuntly he's a very limited footballer. Doesn't see things ahead of him and even if he did, he doesn't have the ability to execute.

 

Bang on 

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2 minutes ago, gsa said:

Mcrorrie is a great athlete, his bursts of power to get in before people are incredible. Unfortuntly he's a very limited footballer. Doesn't see things ahead of him and even if he did, he doesn't have the ability to execute.

 

In his defence at least that’s his job and he’s good at it and he knows his limitations.

But we only need one person in that position especially in Scotland. Was bizarre bringing on Jack for Arfield.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said:

In his defence at least that’s his job and he’s good at it and he knows his limitations.

But we only need one person in that position especially in Scotland. Was bizarre bringing on Jack for Arfield.

 

 

Arfield was injured.

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2 minutes ago, McEwan's Lager said:

In his defence at least that’s his job and he’s good at it and he knows his limitations.

But we only need one person in that position especially in Scotland. Was bizarre bringing on Jack for Arfield.

 

 

Arfield was injured though.

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2 minutes ago, PRW. said:

Arfield was injured.

 

2 minutes ago, Marky. said:

Arfield was injured though.

I’ve fucked it anyway. Jack came on for Candeias.

What I’m trying to say is I think it would have made more sense to have Docherty on for either of them before Jack.

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15 minutes ago, Jamie0202 said:

Mate that word in itself is an overreaction. How can you be a terrible finisher when you're the 2nd top goalscorer in the league last season behind the SPL's all time top goal-scorer? He's a reasonable finisher (a better than 1 in 2 suggests that) but I agree he definitely needs to improve to get to the next level in his career. He's still young and in all honesty had a fantastic season for a young South American on his debut season in Scotland. Name one who has even came close to doing better.

I'm hopeful that with a new manager and new training methods he will get to that next level in terms of finishing.

When I said some should be embarrassed by their overreaction I meant that they are drawing conclusions on players/the team based on our first game of the season which, may I remind them, is in the early part of JULY.

Are you confident when morelos is one on one with a keeper? He simply is-not  and will not be good enough to lead our line. 

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Creative players are needed. Ejaria looked like he posses a bit of that but seemed a bit selfish to me, Murphy is almost ridiculously one footed, Arfield isn’t that type of player, Windass is Windass. 

 

Morelos may be useful on the right since his overall play isn’t bad and he seems to prefer shooting etc on that side, but we need a player with a track record of scoring up top.

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Thought at times the away team outplayed us with the way they kept the ball. Getting that second goal was a bonus, would hate chasing the game in Skopje in the heat.

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