OneDavidCooper

I'll fucking vituperately you ya fucking rogue.
(Had to Google it ?)

Harry Forrester is a better footballer than many on here are judges of a footballer.

Don't get the hate for him. 

Apparently Halliday said to Holt:
"Lets go."

A good few years ago things were different. And not just we were on top. 
I agree that to consider that there is a grand conspiracy, orchestrated by nefarious characters who all get together (in a lodge)  at the start of the season and decide they are going to keep down one team through refereeing decisions is paranoid. 
That is not what I am suggesting. I can’t speak for others.
i am saying that referees give the vast majority of difficult decisions to our detriment because that’s the path of least resistance. I dont even think it’s consciously done. 
 

The boy was born to be captain of Rangers. 

Suspect his captain hasn’t been signed yet

Unimportant as you need more than one leader. Will probably go to a new signing but I'd opt for McCrorie myself.

*you're 
I'm desperate for you to provide evidence. You can't and won't.
Prove it. Prove the majority of let's even say just big decisions didn't go against us. Or that any other team had the same number of comparable big decisions that went against them last season. 
Put out all the smiley faces and retorts about paranoia that you want but you can't. And you'll likely be another one that's arguing against it whilst not having even watched the video to see the catalogue of decisions being discussed.
Without proof you're just all talk, no substance as usual........

Dude I have never really had the inclination to engage in a debate with you. It is akin to debating a brick wall. You have three traits
1. Be contrary 
2. Deliberately miss the point
3. Set up straw men 
You have exhibited all 3 of these characteristics in this post. 
Now I don’t want to be the guy who tackles the man instead of the ball so let me try to respond and then I am happy to agree to disagree
You are constantly trying to convince us that with all your vast experience of watching Scottish football it has you uniquely placed to confirm to us that the referees in Scotland are shite. Please. Stop. We all agree. This is not the point and you are deliberately missing it (trait 2)
That kind of deals with 70% of your post. 
The brass tacks is are they biased?
You have said that time and again studies have shown that teams with the louder crowd get decisions. To copy a contrary trait from you, please link these studies? Only joking don’t link the studies as I don’t care and it’s a pointless request as it is irrelevant to the discussion (trait 3)
if, as you say, time after time studies have proven that the louder crowd influence a referee into giving a decision then why is it the biggest and best supported club in the country were on the end of the overwhelming majority of incorrect decisions last season?
If it was the case that Motherwell played Kilmarnock and the poor refereeing standards meant that the overwhelming majority of the decisions went in Motherwells favour over the course of the game. With Motherwell getting away with a couple of red cards, awarded a soft penalty and scoring a dubious goal, while Kilmarnock had a wrong red card issued, one of their players injured by an assault of a challenge and a stonewall penalty turned down. Then Klimarnock would be entitled to think that referee was biased against them. Now take that scenario into Kilmarnocks next game, the same thing happens to them even though they are now playing St Johnstone and again the following week against Aberdeen. Then Kilmarnock fans would for sure say there was a bias against them.
Because the facts are that poor refereeing is poor for everyone. The old adage “it evens out over a season” applies when there is consistently poor refereeing, but if it’s inconsistent and it is inconsistent to the detriment of a particular club then there is a bias. 
How do you train an animal or a child? You reward it for good behaviour and punish it for bad behaviour.
Referees have felt the pain when they have made calls that have hurt a certain club. They have been pain free when they have made calls that have hurt us. Isn’t it time to bring the pain? Even in the form of registering our complaints. 
I hope to fuck Gerrard thinks so. I hope he ditches dignified silence and calls out every single Ref fuck up against us and highlights every wrong decision 

This is the reason I hate Rangers fans

I don't watch any Scottish football apart from games involving Rangers so cannot write with any authority about how other teams are refereed. I'm also not one of life's conspiracy theorists. But when I saw Bowman and Moult get away with murder against us, swiftly followed by Jack receiving red cards for little more than farting in his own shorts I began to wonder. What the truth is I don't know but I do believe that some refs these days bear grudges and this does influence how they referee certain players and teams. Whether that affects Rangers more than others I don't know but I do know from my own work in football that refereeing standards have dropped and that some refs undoubtedly have their own agendas. 
I genuinely believe too that many in powerful positions within Scottish football hate Rangers and have sought to destroy us. I see no reason why referees would be unaffected by this climate of hate. Sad times.

So 8 pages in and some very bizarre straw man arguments being laid out.
Talk of IRA and Chris Sutton, suggestions that 2010 isn’t “years ago”. Some fucking bizarre notion that a ref has it in for St Johnstone and the complete inability to grasp that if you are top of the FairPlay league then it is statistically likely you have less decisions to complain about. 
There is no conspiracy ffs. But there is unquestionably a bias. I don’t know why people can’t entertain the notion of a bias without a conspiracy. 
I watch only Rangers games. I watched nearly every league game last season. I saw the decisions in those games. The decisions in those games overwhelmingly went against us and for our opponents. 
Thats not to say we didn’t get away with a few. It’s also not to say that the opposition had the odd wrong decision but we suffered more in those games than our opponents. 
The standard of refereeing is absolutely howling but if a referee is faced with a difficult decision then I firmly believe that he sees the path of least resistance is to call the decision against Rangers. I don’t know how that can be disputed frankly..
However even at that, I am referring to incidents such as the Scott Allan challenge on Rossiter or the punch in the balls of David Bates. Bad decisions by the referee that I believe were caused by “path of least resistance” bias,
Where it gets taken to new depths of incompetence is the first Hibs game where Tav is booked for being assaulted by Stokes, or Morelos is booked for being on the end of a flying clothes line from Darren McGregor. Those are the kinds of decisions that prompt suggestions of conspiracy.
Its like this;
in 2010 The scum attacked referees so insistently that the referees ended up striking. Subsequently the scum fans through their new found computer skills have waged a war on social media on all things institutional in Scottish football, the consequences of giving anything against them is so severe and the consequences of giving anything against Rangers so .... well..... inconsequential.... that refs are now conditioned to make biased decisions
Of course their fans still complain about decisions despite topping the fair play charts, if they stop complaining the balance would be restored. 
*Note the Hivs are second in the fair play league with referee bully-in-chief leading their charge, wonder why so few red and yellow cards dished out to the teams in green ?
Dignified silence has done absolute fuck all good ......in any situation ...... and if breaking the dignified silence leads to accusations of paranoia bring it on and let’s go
 

I don't watch any Scottish football apart from games involving Rangers so cannot write with any authority about how other teams are refereed. I'm also not one of life's conspiracy theorists. But when I saw Bowman and Moult get away with murder against us, swiftly followed by Jack receiving red cards for little more than farting in his own shorts I began to wonder. What the truth is I don't know but I do believe that some refs these days bear grudges and this does influence how they referee certain players and teams. Whether that affects Rangers more than others I don't know but I do know from my own work in football that refereeing standards have dropped and that some refs undoubtedly have their own agendas. 
I genuinely believe too that many in powerful positions within Scottish football hate Rangers and have sought to destroy us. I see no reason why referees would be unaffected by this climate of hate. Sad times.

I don't watch any Scottish football apart from games involving Rangers so cannot write with any authority about how other teams are refereed. I'm also not one of life's conspiracy theorists. But when I saw Bowman and Moult get away with murder against us, swiftly followed by Jack receiving red cards for little more than farting in his own shorts I began to wonder. What the truth is I don't know but I do believe that some refs these days bear grudges and this does influence how they referee certain players and teams. Whether that affects Rangers more than others I don't know but I do know from my own work in football that refereeing standards have dropped and that some refs undoubtedly have their own agendas. 
I genuinely believe too that many in powerful positions within Scottish football hate Rangers and have sought to destroy us. I see no reason why referees would be unaffected by this climate of hate. Sad times.

My expectation is that many of the crackpots on here will have turned against him by October.

Not only that but we need to stop automatically arguing over every internal issue when it is first reported by the Scottish media... because facts aren't always going to be accurate.
Some clubs have internal issues every day that dont make it to press

The daily rabid reported Gerrard rubber stamped his return to the post. 
It's a complex and sensitive issue, but if true about Gerrard, then that will do for me.
We really need to stop beating ourselves up with every piece of internal strife and let the senior management do their job.

Yeah I get that. Fair comment.

He’s in our Hall of Fame, not just a player, that in itself should expect more from these individuals when discussing us on TV or in the media. There should be an expectation of how you carry yourself or talk about the club when in HoF. 

What has he said there that's so terrible?
He's spot on with the first paragraph.
Ok he references sutton in the second paragraph but again It's not an outlandish statement.
And he's not exactly wrong in the third paragraph is he? The taigs are still a long way ahead of us at the moment, hopefully Gerrard is the first step on the road to turning that around but let's not think It's going to be a stroll.
So maybe you don't like him or what he says, but he was a solid honest professional when he was here as a player and on that he deserves to be remembered as a Great Ranger.

Esk has seen his contract? Esk has seen the terms of his loan deal? It's well known that in the absence of facts then people just fill the gaps with shite. This is the basis for most religions.

Clearly as shit at drinking as he is at playing football. 

Clearly as shit at drinking as he is at playing football. 

Clearly as shit at drinking as he is at playing football.