SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 i dont know mate. is he two footed by any chance?No idea ma man, just heard the other day he had signed for Barca and i thought he was a winger type, like Weiss.Weiss signing for a top club may not be as far fetched as some think, not yet of course, but in time........No one can say for certainIn saying all that, i cant see him making it at City or even being given a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain1712 336 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I don't remember davie cooper ever playing on the right wing would you say the same about him ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 What happens if Weiss plays 20 games on the spin at RW, creates plenty of chances, scores plenty of goals and runs riot will he be deemed not good enough because he has not done it on the left? I don't think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I don't remember davie cooper ever playing on the right wing would you say the same about him ?fantastic player who for a variety of reasons would struggle in the modern game. unless he changed how he played and trained. he was also at rangers largly when a good player like him could write his own ticket. perhaps if he was more versatile he would have played more after souness arrived. perhaps he was a bit past it by then. i will say this i saw him play in the middle of the park for motherwell a couple of times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 What happens if Weiss plays 20 games on the spin at RW, creates plenty of chances, scores plenty of goals and runs riot will he be deemed not good enough because he has not done it on the left? I don't think so.thats not what i am saying i am just saying if he wants to have the best career he possibly can he better learn to be better when he has to play on the left. what happens if fleck plays out his skin on the right for 20 games does weiss content himself with the bench? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 He has talent and he has the ability to play anywhere across the middle of the park and behind the striker, havent you seen that from his time at this club?He is more effective on the right than the left, yes but to try and discount his ability as a footballer based on a couple of poor performances in his "weaker" position is just stupid.When he starts on the right, he has the option of cutting in and hitting the byline. When he starts on the left he only has the option of cutting in. Therefore he is more effective on the right. If he started on the right, he would end up on the left hand side from time to time as is the case with wingers, they do tend to swap positions but they more often than not end up going back to the other side. Thats when this problem seems to occure with Vlad, when he starts on the left he is too one dimensional but he has shown he has ability from the left, cutting in from the left on his first appearance against hibs he set up a goal. The free role was perfect for him today as it allowed him to utilise both wings but return to where he was strongest and that is the right and in behind the striker.he clearly doesnt have the talent to play on the left yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 No idea ma man, just heard the other day he had signed for Barca and i thought he was a winger type, like Weiss.Weiss signing for a top club may not be as far fetched as some think, not yet of course, but in time........No one can say for certainIn saying all that, i cant see him making it at City or even being given a chance.seems he can play either wing perhaps thets why he is at barca Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillybilly 151 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 When played in the middle it gives him the option to go either way past his opponent instead of being on the wing when the opposition force him inside all the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 thats not what i am saying i am just saying if he wants to have the best career he possibly can he better learn to be better when he has to play on the left. what happens if fleck plays out his skin on the right for 20 games does weiss content himself with the bench?He has the talent to be a very good RW which means he does not have to play on the left week in week out. There will be times when he finds himself on the left but if he is played at RW then he does not need to go over to the left all the time.But it seems Walter Smith thinks he should be on the left but he should really be played RW or in that free role he had today. And there is no way John Fleck will be played on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulRFC1 115 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 he clearly doesnt have the talent to play on the left yet.Fuck off Your clueless and negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWalterSmithLegend 206 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 seems he can play either wing perhaps thets why he is at barcaPossibly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Fuck off Your clueless and negative.he has been utterly shite on the left. his fan club all cried fould he was so bad out there and demanded he be moved. there is no evidence he is anything other than piss poor on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 He needs to learn to play in goals if he wants to make it. And centreback. And every other position that he can't play in. No point being good on the right wing when he's shite at left back!Nail on the head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 He needs to learn to play in goals if he wants to make it. And centreback. And every other position that he can't play in. No point being good on the right wing when he's shite at left back!what a pile of shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 So is Ashley Cole not a good LB because he can't play RB? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 So is Ashley Cole not a good LB because he can't play RB?he can he is decent there. thats why hes a top player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 He needs to learn to play in goals if he wants to make it. And centreback. And every other position that he can't play in. No point being good on the right wing when he's shite at left back! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Aye, but he can't play as the target man role as a lone striker. Fucking waste of space!your either being obtuse or a moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I'm just agreeing with your argument. No point judging a player in what he's good at! Its better to just focus on what they do when played in a position that isn't their strongest. If you can't play well in one position, it doesn't matter if you can in others.i think we have our answer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Who gives a fuck? Played well, scores a goal and can get better as the season goes on.Perhaps thats the problem, fans in Scotland don't want to see a player run at players or try something different. Probably one of the big problems with the scottish game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,717 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Who gives a fuck? Played well, scores a goal and can get better as the season goes on.Perhaps thats the problem, fans in Scotland don't want to see a player run at players or try something different. Probably one of the big problems with the scottish game.I cant speak for most but I fucking love the wee man, sure he maybe is a bit greedy at times and chooses the wrong ball but the lad gets the ball back and goes again, keeps trying and today he got the rewards. I still maintain he is the only player in our team capable of doing what he did today and thats pick up a ball and run at a team, he had them on the ropes. He is an exciting (yet sometimes frustrating) player, dangerous, pacy, tricky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Who gives a fuck? Played well, scores a goal and can get better as the season goes on.Perhaps thats the problem, fans in Scotland don't want to see a player run at players or try something different. Probably one of the big problems with the scottish game.Is that a serious post ? The debate is he's shite(IMO) on the left and given a free role today we see the real Vlad Weiss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunslinger 270 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Who gives a fuck? Played well, scores a goal and can get better as the season goes on.Perhaps thats the problem, fans in Scotland don't want to see a player run at players or try something different. Probably one of the big problems with the scottish game.i enjoyed his performance today and the teams. wasnt perfect and hes got a long way to go to become a regular player at a decent side. thats all i am saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Is that a serious post ? The debate is he's shite(IMO) on the left and given a free role today we see the real Vlad Weiss.Of course its serious.If he isn't keeping it simple or finding the right pass all the time, people question him. He is what he is, he is a tricky player, a dribbler, runs at defenders, offers the odd trick and is a big threat to the opposition if he plays well. Could rip celtic apart next week.I think he is one of the best players in the squad. He will only get better as his confidence grows. So lets get behind the lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I'd rather a player tried to beat a few men and play a killer pass than get the ball, pass it backwards or just look to get rid of it straight away.We moan about lack of creativity, someone who get's on the ball and tries to beat a man, yet when Weiss tries to do it, get's slated.Wee man was fantastic today, not everything paid off, but at least he tried and had the vision to see the passes. His and the teams confidence must be high and that can only be a good thing.Weiss has taken stick, he's said himself that he's been disappointing and will look to improve. Well today we saw a difference in his attitude and play, and I hope that he continues to be a starter, and performs.An absolutely fantastic option to have and he's loving it at Rangers by the sounds of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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