SasaFknPapac 9 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 At the end of the day, he's never met a player in a Grand Slam final who wasn't better than him. Plain and simple.He has played below par in all 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,071 Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 He has played below par in all 3.Irrelevant. Murray has never turned in an unexpected result in a Grand Slam final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 What about Nadal v Soderling then? At Roland Garros. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,071 Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 What about Nadal v Soderling then? At Roland Garros.Nadal was injured, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,071 Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 You can't question Nadal's bottle at Roland Garros. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 You can't question Nadal's bottle at Roland Garros.I only decided to pick it, after the way you were talking about Murray with unexpected results etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,071 Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 I only decided to pick it, after the way you were talking about Murray with unexpected results etc.Sure, but there were mitigating circumstances with Nadal. On top form he would have destroyed Soderling. There's no reason to think that if both competitors were on top form Murray would have won any of his finals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SasaFknPapac 9 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Irrelevant. Murray has never turned in an unexpected result in a Grand Slam final.He has turned in many an unexpected performance thought. Although it's not a full bottle-job, you can't deny he has bottled it in at least 2 of the 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Sure, but there were mitigating circumstances with Nadal. On top form he would have destroyed Soderling. There's no reason to think that if both competitors were on top form Murray would have won any of his finals.But does that not ruin the point of bottle merchants? If Celtic were on top form against Motherwell they would of beat them that day, but they didn't.They bottled it and lost 2 goals in the last 5 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearethepeople1 3,897 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Ronaldo in the dressing room before the 1998 world cup final, no one knows what happened to him, but the pressure and hype got to him. It was a shame but zidane stole the show Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Greg Norman 1996 MastersThe Dutch - three world cup finalsJimmy WhiteI can't think of any finals he bottled, I just don't think he was ever good enough to win the WC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brissyger 8 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Lebron James in every playoff series Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan 23 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 At the end of the day, he's never met a player in a Grand Slam final who wasn't better than him. Plain and simple.Irrelevant. Murray has never turned in an unexpected result in a Grand Slam final.Sure, but there were mitigating circumstances with Nadal. On top form he would have destroyed Soderling. There's no reason to think that if both competitors were on top form Murray would have won any of his finals.Don't like Murray?I also think your talking shite btw.If Murray had turne up in Australia against Fed he would have won. If had turned up against Djokovic he would have won.Bottle job and nothing to do with being less talented than his opponents Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 735 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Tims v Artmedia Bratislava. That was fucking hilarious.Oliver McCall vs Lewis.Mayweather refusing to fight Pacman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raligt 2,541 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Us V Kaunas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misteral 2,932 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 All mentioned earlier but most memorable for meHelicopter Sunday.........................simply the best!Newcastle 96Milan in CL FinalRangers in the not 10IAR seasonSteve Davis's final shot v DennisTaylor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart1994 4,356 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Hearts 1986 a good shout ? Seen it on the football years and was speaking to my dad about it and he said that's one of the worst moments he's seen even though he's a Gers man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelingWilBEARy 4,319 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 As much as it pains me to say it but Baggio ballooning his penalty over the bar in the 1994 Worldc Cup Final m ust be up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart1994 4,356 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Seeing Baggio's is cringeworthy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Christian Vieri. UEFA Cup Semi Final 2008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SasaFknPapac 9 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 A lot people just saying shock/poor results, most of which have nothing to do with bottle but more poor performance. Newcastle in 96 and AC Milan vs Liverpool are the two big ones that come to mind for me.Poor performances can be classed as bottling... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordo 33 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Teams/people have an off day, nothing to do with bottle. We've had a few that spring to mind, Kaunas for example, but we had just held our bottle several times to get to the UEFA Cup Final just months before, including in penalty shoot-outs. Would you question our bottle then ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietofWorms 2,067 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Theo Snelders in a Rangers strip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DivDee 49 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Andy Murray in every grand slam finalAndy Murray in every grand slam not just the final Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 19,071 Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 But does that not ruin the point of bottle merchants? If Celtic were on top form against Motherwell they would of beat them that day, but they didn't.They bottled it and lost 2 goals in the last 5 minutes.Yeah, but Nadal wasn't on top form because of injury, not because he didn't have the bottle to win a French Open semi-final. He'd already won plenty of finals! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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