derek1872 548 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 That kind of arrogant pish is why they will win fuck all USA would hump that lot any day of the week and there are another dozen times at least who are better than them .........So I state England are a top 15 team and put them at about 11. You call me arrogent and then say 13 teams are better You truly are a nomark. Away and lick Messi's hole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I agree.My point though, is that this reliance on the older players has to end.Terry won't be first choice in the 2014 World Cup most likely, and neither will the likes of Lampard, Gerrard etc.There's no point in letting them hold on to the dream.Bring through youngsters and blood them, giving them experience and let them gel as a squad, that way they'll be ready for the World Cup when it comes.I agree generally, but you still need some mixture of youth and experience. More players need brought in like Chamberlain certainly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 That kind of arrogant pish is why they will win fuck all USA would hump that lot any day of the week and there are another dozen times at least who are better than them .........What of any significance did Barcelona win last season?Take your own advice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 What of any significance did Barcelona win last season?Take your own advice.Desperation again ........If all else fails bring up Barca .I know it hurts and i am glad , we may get peace to watch the rest of the tournament .After a terrible day , by fuck i will sleep well tonight .......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 They clearly are, 6th may be too high but they're certainly top 15.ItalyArgentina BrazilSpainPortugalUruguayHollandFranceGermany GhanaUSAIvory coastRussia All teams I'd say would be better than England sassaaaa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 19,053 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 With England having a population of over 50m, it is quite confusing that they are so behind the other nations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltzer83 27 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Usa, ivory coast and ghana are not better teams than england from that list Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 ItalyArgentina BrazilSpainPortugalUruguayHollandFranceGermany GhanaUSAIvory coastRussia All teams I'd say would be better than EnglandNot a chance are Ghana, Ivory Coast or the USA better than England.The African Cup of Nations and the general lack of African presence in the latter stages of the World Cup shows the severe lack of quality in these sides. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,635 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Usa, Ghana, Ivory Coast and possibly Russia are below England imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek1872 548 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 ItalyArgentina BrazilSpainPortugalUruguayHollandFranceGermany GhanaUSAIvory coastRussia All teams I'd say would be better than EnglandThat still puts then top 15. I would certainly argue USA (28th in the world) and Russia who failed to come through the easiest euro group I've ever seen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Theres that arrogance once again !Fuckin love it .......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,657 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Croatia are better than England as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 ItalyArgentina BrazilSpainPortugalUruguayHollandFranceGermany GhanaUSAIvory coastRussia All teams I'd say would be better than EnglandYou're being incredibly kind to those countries surely?Tournament progression certainly wouldn't suggest they're better than England. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Theres that arrogance once again !Fuckin love it ..........Our club is going through hell and you're still obsessed with creating childish squabbles over other football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aird 3,836 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Hart's mindgames were shite as well.He's gunna get you now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfcfraserrfc 262 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Theres that arrogance once again !Fuckin love it ..........What international teams do you favor then ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongolikecandy 418 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Our club is going through hell and you're still obsessed with creating childish squabbles over other football.Agree He ls more passionate about Barca than usStrange guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Usa, ivory coast and ghana are not better teams than england from that listGhana totally outclassed england at wembleyGhana got further in the last world cupUSA defeated Italy away just before the eurosTell me why England are better? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrshireranger 8,396 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Gutted for England, Italy deserved it on the balance of play but at the same time you feel such defensive efforts deserve some reward.I'd have been gutted for football if England had gone through. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Ghana totally outclassed england at wembleyGhana got further in the last world cupUSA defeated Italy away just before the eurosTell me why England are better?Using friendlies and one tournament where Ghana had a more favourable last 16 draw is a very simplistic way of deciding that. When have Ghana ever really been at England's level of nearly always being at World Cups and generally progressing to the knock outs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I'd have been gutted for football if England had gone through.Sounds like the rubbish thrown at us in 2008. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Using friendlies and one tournament where Ghana had a more favourable last 16 draw is a very simplistic way of deciding that. When have Ghana ever really been at England's level of nearly always being at World Cups and generally progressing to the knock outs?I asked a question Explain why England should be classed as better ?They havent won a knockout game in tournament competition in years Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I asked a question Explain why England should be classed as better ?They havent won a knockout game in tournament competition in yearsExplain why they shouldn't? How have Ghana set the world alight? England can't make the next step to beat the likes of Germany, Spain, Italy etc but to call them worse than Ghana and the USA is very harsh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 DP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 We will be here all night ! LolEngland have had shit easy draws to get into the major tournaments the last 6The one they have for brazil is a fucking disgrace , it's shooty inAs soon as they come up against quality oposition they crumble In my opinion USA and Ghana would beat themThey can keep the ball and they are direct , unlike England who can't even keep the ball against Ukraine England are in no way a top 10 ranking When did they last beat a team in the top 10 ? In a major game? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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