stu54 128 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I'm amazed at the access people seem to have to actually gather these facts. What were ally's words exactly when he demanded the wages that he gave up to be repaid? You seem to know all about this showdown session, so I'm guessing you must have been there? Or you just guessing?You do know that it's a wage cut, not a deferral right. Sounds like you have been brainwashed by Bawsburst when you keep banging on about it only being a deferral.You honestly think that any Rangers fan would turn down a free % holding of the club? Especially when it doesn't cost the club anything? Why does this make him greedy? Has he been trying to flog them for a big profit or something?You are a trolling shite stirring prick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I'm amazed at the access people seem to have to actually gather these facts. What were ally's words exactly when he demanded the wages that he gave up to be repaid? You seem to know all about this showdown session, so I'm guessing you must have been there? Or you just guessing?You do know that it's a wage cut, not a deferral right. Sounds like you have been brainwashed by Bawsburst when you keep banging on about it only being a deferral.You honestly think that any Rangers fan would turn down a free % holding of the club? Especially when it doesn't cost the club anything? Why does this make him greedy? Has he been trying to flog them for a big profit or something?you should maybe try and acquaint yourself with the factsyou are miles out in your assumptionsI can assure you of that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 74,692 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Sack him and his cohorts,without compensation, let him and his pals sue us.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 You are a trolling shite stirring prickWhy is that exactly? And enough with the name calling eh? Grow up a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 you should maybe try and acquaint yourself with the factsyou are miles out in your assumptionsI can assure you of thatOh yea? Why don't you publish the facts that prove I'm wrong then?You have proof that Ally has only deferred his wages? This would go against everything told to the fans. When does he get this back pay?I'm guessing you have this right.? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Dp Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balgreen Bear 15 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ally did not volunteer for a 50% wage cut. It's a wage deferral and was only agreed on if we put a £1m sack clause in it as well. The man is consumed by money and himself. No Rangers man in their right mind would treat our club the way he has. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number5 2,128 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 The blame lies with the board.Ally is a shite manager, regardless of what is going on off the field he has still be able to recruit, train and work with the players levels above the standard we play against, and we're still as bad as ever.However the board must know the crack. Ally backs the board, the board back Ally, everyone inside Ibrox are happy, the only ones that lose out are us.Ally won't walk, he needs to be pushed. The board won't do it.....The fans must! Once he's gone, get the board to fuck and get people in the position who make the right calls for the sack of Rangers and the fans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ally did not volunteer for a 50% wage cut. It's a wage deferral and was only agreed on if we put a £1m sack clause in it as well. The man is consumed by money and himself. No Rangers man in their right mind would treat our club the way he has.Any proof? Nah, didn't think so.Filed under pish.When exactly does he get his close to £500k back pay in your fictional scenario? Does he get it in a big lump sum? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Oh yea? Why don't you publish the facts that prove I'm wrong then?You have proof that Ally has only deferred his wages? This would go against everything told to the fans. When does he get this back pay?I'm guessing you have this right.?youd be better advised wondering as to why so many others tell you your understanding is wrongthen again ignore everything that is said and continue to believe what you wantor we could play your game and ask you for the contract details etc that back up your understanding*heres a hint this isn't the time to use a "newspaper" as a source Balgreen Bear and Bobby Hume 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 youd be better advised wondering as to why so many others tell you your understanding is wrongthen again ignore everything that is said and continue to believe what you wantor we could play your game and ask you for the contract details etc that back up your understanding*heres a hint this isn't the time to use a "newspaper" as a sourceTo be honest, already know why so many people tell me my understanding is wrong. Most people on here are fucking idiots. But who knows, maybe most people on here understand more about HR issues than a guy trained in HR.Your last line is a cracker by the way, accusing someone of having bad sources when your source is rumour and innuendo. WadeWilson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosebrad 452 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 The guys the ultimate spiv. Made millions of us, wasted millions on third rate shite and embarrassed us at Europe and at home.He wont stand down though, we pay the spiv too well.Goat, I was at the game last night I am sick to the back teeth of this man, what respect I had for him is gone completely. I was far to angry to come on this forum last night, Ally is clueless and no ability to change games or ability to pick the correct team. We cant afford to pay him off, Ally if you LOVE Rangers leave you got your cash you have your shares YOU have taken more money out of Ibrox than any Director or CEO. Leave our club now and let us build for the future your killing our club a slow death. Bluefarm 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balgreen Bear 15 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Any proof? Nah, didn't think so.Filed under pish.When exactly does he get his close to £500k back pay in your fictional scenario? Does he get it in a big lump sum?I don't need to prove anything to you, i am telling you what happened. File it under facts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I don't need to prove anything to you, i am telling you what happened. File it under facts.No its getting filed under pish. Your attempt to reenforce it as fact has actually managed to get it into the special sub category of utter pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balgreen Bear 15 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Beeling. Pure beeling so you are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,436 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 He's clearly milking us dry now.No respect for him Balgreen Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 83,298 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I don't really like him at all anymore tbh.Sad that it's came to that but I find it hard to even think of Ally the player now Balgreen Bear and theblueoysterbar 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddybear4life1690 44 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 The Manager has been with us for 4 years now surely he has not been given a contract longer than 4 years. If that is the case then the previous board before Murray sold to Whyte has been responsible for what is now happening. Lets hope that Mr McCoist contract ends this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1690tamRFC 5,001 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 It keeps being said that we can't afford to sack Ally, but to be honest I think whatever it now costs to get rid of him would be far more cost affective than keeping him in charge. If we don't get rid of him pronto we won't be going up it's as simple as that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefarm 1,055 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Poor recruitment / scouting, poor tactics, piss poor team selection, players being played out of position, the wind, the pitch, Moshni, internationals etc etc etc.Ally - just go ffs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,696 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 The Manager has been with us for 4 years now surely he has not been given a contract longer than 4 years. If that is the case then the previous board before Murray sold to Whyte has been responsible for what is now happening. Lets hope that Mr McCoist contract ends this season.He has a year rolling contract Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefarm 1,055 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Goat, I was at the game last night I am sick to the back teeth of this man, what respect I had for him is gone completely. I was far to angry to come on this forum last night, Ally is clueless and no ability to change games or ability to pick the correct team. We cant afford to pay him off, Ally if you LOVE Rangers leave you got your cash you have your shares YOU have taken more money out of Ibrox than any Director or CEO. Leave our club now and let us build for the future your killing our club a slow death.Totally agree.I sat looking at all the young fans including my own son and thought "We are losing a generation of Bears here" McCoist is clueless and I would go as far as to say negligent. He needs to look by his wallet just this once and do the decent thing for the support and the Rangers.Just go now Ally. Balgreen Bear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 The word Legend getting used a lot, a true Legend would put the club before himself or his bank balance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balgreen Bear 15 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 The word Legend getting used a lot, a true Legend would put the club before himself or his bank balance.This, with bells on it. You are so right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiogh 178 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 The word Legend getting used a lot, a true Legend would put the club before himself or his bank balance.You would have to think he's just so stubborn/deluded that he thinks he can improve the team and be the right man for the job, rather than he's just thinking about money. WadeWilson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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