Sweetheart 8,458 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/exclusive-glasgow-rangers-celtic-playing-1783049 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 What a stupid thing to say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 We might do Woking away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Charles found his voice again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,889 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Glasgow Rangers will be playing in England within five years, the Ibrox chief executive has predicted.And Charles Green insisted the inevitable arrival of the Old Firm will also benefit the game south of the border.The most successful club in Scottish history are ready to start in the Conference and play their way up to the Premier League. And the outspoken Yorkshireman is prepared to go to court to remove a rule he judges is a restraint of trade as blatant as Bosman.But Rangers want to be wanted. And Green insists the Ibrox club’s demotion to the Third Divison, a softening in UEFA attitude and the economic crisis have given fresh impetus to a perennial debate.“Whether it is next week, because the English authorities change their mind, or in five to 10 years, Rangers and Celtic will leave Scotland,” Green stated.“I would like to think within five years. I say to English clubs: Don’t be afraid of the unknown. There will be cross-border leagues and that will change the face of European football. These doors are opening.”The financial benefits to Scotland’s big two are obvious. Celtic will earn £2.4million from TV for winning the SPL this year while Rangers, who can win the Third Division title this weekend, will bank only £10,000 for 15 live matches. And the impact on Scottish football is debatable, with Green offering to leave a colts team in the Third Division.But the problem is England does not want them. In 2009, when Bolton floated the idea of a two-tier Premier League to include the Old Firm, the proposal was quickly sunk. And new broadcasting deals are worth a staggering £5.5bn over the next three years. Why would Premier League clubs outside the elite want rivals for their top-flight place? Why would England want Rangers and Celtic?“Why would football clubs or football authorities not want Rangers and Celtic?” responded Green, whose club sold 38,500 season tickets in the fourth tier of Scottish football. “If they say: ‘It wouldn’t add anything into the game’, they are lying.“I watched Southampton play Wigan. The stadium wasn’t full – there were empty seats. Now there is no way on God’s earth that any team that Rangers play will have empty seats.“That is what football wants – to bring the money in. Not just to keep banging Rupert Murdoch’s door and say we want some more money.“When you say the English FA and Football League don’t want us, when you look at some of these clubs, Portsmouth have gone bust three times in four years. Two English clubs have come to me and said: ‘Buy us and close us down. Take us for free and take on the liabilities’.“I have spoken to a number of chief executives from Premier League clubs – and all of them would welcome Rangers. Of the people I have spoken to directly, or people on my behalf have spoken to, throughout the leagues – 20 – only two have said no.”Going bust and reforming in the Third Division has given an alternative route down south. After winning their 54th title or reaching the 2008 UEFA Cup Final, it would have been hard to argue for joining English non-league football. But after falling out with the Scottish authorities – Rangers still don’t know which division they will play in next season – that is now the plan.Mirror man: Charles Green talks with Daily Mirror's Neil McLemanTim Anderson“I don’t want to go into the Premier League,” Green claimed. “It would be wrong. If the Premier League sent me an invite saying we could start next year, I would turn it down.“I don’t want to go into the Football League. But what I do want to do is to start playing football in England, and knowing that if I win that league, I get promoted to the next one and the next one. And no one can stand there and say we can’t get promoted because you are a Scottish club.“Could you imagine the income generation Rangers and Celtic would create in the Conference? Every Conference stadium would be full. And then to work through the leagues over the next three or four years would refresh English football because this staleness that is affecting Scottish football is prevalent here.”Ironically, as payers of taxes to the British treasury, Green insists Rangers have the right to play in England.“Under European law, (stopping us) is categorically a restraint of trade,” he claimed. “It is clearly the same law as Bosman. If people think that is right, they are in cloud cuckoo land because it is not right. I am an outspoken Yorkshirman, I call a spade a spade and I say it. Others whisper in corners and I think it is wrong.“Now if we are not good enough, and the Football League clubs vote that they don’t want us in, I accept that. That is fine. But don’t tell me there is a law that is outside of the laws of this country and outside of the laws of the EU.“I don’t ever want to go to court. The club secretary is in contact with the FA to try to fix an appointment for me to meet them. This is not Cheryl Cole v Ashley Cole. We want to talk face to face.”Greatest bargain ever in footballAs a striker for Barnsley, Gainsborough Trinity, Goole Town and Cheltenham, the Glasgow Rangers chief executive Charles Green never went full-time for financial reasons.“There was no money in those days,” said the Yorkshireman, 59. “If I had gone full-time I would have been £60 a week worse off.“I was a fantastic goal scorer. I wasn’t like Messi but there was no-one in England who could catch me. I was so quick.”Having it all: Charles Green with a Rangers scarfRangers FC/Press AssociationAfter retiring at 28 to start his business career – and including a spell as chief executive of Sheffield United – Green led a consortium which took over Rangers last May and formed a new club.It is now debt free and valued at around £50million – with Green owning eight per cent.“Buying the players, the assets, the history for £10m is the best deal that has ever been done in football,” he said. “Ever.“When I first went there, it was purely a business opportunity. Buy it for X, sell it for Y, make Z. But then of course I found it wouldn’t be that simple.“Stayed longer. Now it has taken over my life and I feel a huge responsibility to the clubs and the fans and the wider community.“And if we look at values in England, Manchester United – the world’s biggest sporting franchise –, is valued at £3bn, Arsenal at £1.5bn.“Rangers in the Premier League would be worth a minimum of £500m and arguably why not £1bn. Where would we sell? Why would we sell?”Could Rangers and Celtic move happen?The English football authorities have repeatedly stated they are not interested in importing the Old Firm.In March 2012, Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore said: “Our rules are simple. It says we’re a league formed for clubs that play in England and Wales. I don’t see that ever changing. I don’t see that changing on my watch, not that my watch may last for long. There’s more in it for them than there is for us.”A Football League spokesman: “It is not an issue that is currently on our agenda”.But the Scottish Football Association would not oppose cross-border leagues played under UEFA.In January, president Campbell Ogilvie said: “The current Rangers scenario, or certain clubs maybe wanting to play elsewhere, I can understand that. The slight change this time is with UEFA, there has been a softening.“They are opening up more to this cross-border idea. I don’t know where that’s going to go but even if it goes somewhere it’s not going to move forward significantly in the next two or three years. We embrace looking at that though.”Aticle 51 (1) of the UEFA statutes states: “No combinations or alliances between UEFA member associations or between leagues or clubs affiliated, directly or indirectly, to different UEFA member associations may be formed without the permission of UEFA” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 So charles Green is doing all the work to get us and the beasts into England. Why charlie? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Get it done Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gers1690 194 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 English football don't want septic in the league, and many believe if Rangers come, septic must as well.We don't want, nor will put up with, foreign-flag waving; pro-IRA chants; scumbags mocking stadium disasters; filth jeering British soldiers; bheasts singing anything and everything anti-English.But when pompey finally let go and die, there will be a free spot and Rangers will be in England. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieG54 812 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Stop mentioning celtic every two sentences Charles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,435 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 English football don't want septic in the league, and many believe if Rangers come, septic must as well.We don't want, nor will put up with, foreign-flag waving; pro-IRA chants; scumbags mocking stadium disasters; filth jeering British soldiers; bheasts singing anything and everything anti-English.But when pompey finally let go and die, there will be a free spot and Rangers will be in England.They don't want Rangers either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 "The most successful club in Scottish history are ready to start in the Conference"then further down the article"Green led a consortium which took over Rangers last May and formed a new club."I'm confused Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 They don't want Rangers either.Do you want to come to Novo's in Northampton?The bus will be picking up in Paisley and Hamilton Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,435 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 “I don’t want to go into the Premier League,” Green claimed. “It would be wrong. If the Premier League sent me an invite saying we could start next year, I would turn it down."So you would. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnymate1690 625 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 i'm getting bored of this to be honest , they do not want us so just let it go and stop trying to find ways to force us in Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime69 514 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 i think there is a possibility of cross border leagues being allowed by UEFA in the future, read recently about the Russia/Ukraine league then read about this today http://theczechup.co.uk/2013/03/19/onesided-czechoslovak-reunion/but obviously for these to happen itll take agreement on all sides and sadly i just cant see the English teams goin for it in our case Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-RFC 308 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Less time tweeting more time going to england Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Zzzzzz.You'd think we had just had a shite result and thinks at CURRENT, weren't going well eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluenose1972 1,405 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 This has to be wrong?Celtic will earn £2.4million from TV for winning the SPL this year while Rangers, who can win the Third Division title this weekend, will bank only £10,000 for 15 live matches.Surly? 10k for 15 matches on the tv? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalvinC 1,414 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I'm a bit bored of all this England talk. I don't doubt that in the future we will be playing in England but I'd rather Green went and sorted it out quietly and done it all behind closed doors. I don't understand why he has to come out and say something about going to England every 2 weeks, if we're gonna do it then fucking get us over and stop banging on about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christchurch Rangers 1,229 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I would say that the Conference will be a damn sight trickier than scottish div 3 going on current formhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm CG Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christchurch Rangers 1,229 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 We might do Woking away.We dont do woking away Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,361 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I wish he would shut the fuck up about moving to England. In fact I wish he would stay silent and only pop up when he's announcing a new deal for the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Trying to get a better deal out of reconstruction. Nothing else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalvinC 1,414 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I wish he would shut the fuck up about moving to England. In fact I wish he would stay silent and only pop up when he's announcing a new deal for the club.Aye I want him to just get on with it, do his business outside of the public eye and then come out and say right, it's a done deal. I'm sick of all this pissing about and promises and this and that, just fucking get on with it Charles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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