Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Not to mention F--- off MA and the naming rights protests.TRS are trouble and very very Divisive indeed.Supporters groups are supposed to represent fans not isolate them.This was the problem under DM too.TRS who they. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 The Bill Miller banners were organised by Andy Smillie.Can you furnish written proof? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimoo 1,474 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Suppose it depends on whos side you are on and how you look at it.Myself I don't like it when a group or faction get above themselves and start to feel they are the chosen ones with the right way to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 The Bill Miller banners were organised by Andy Smillie.The Bill Miller banners were organised by prominent members of FF and the RST, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainofIndustry 921 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 The Bill Miller banners were organised by Andy Smillie.Aided & abetted by longstanding FF posters, including several one time-RST board members. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainofIndustry 921 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 The Bill Miller banners were organised by prominent members of FF and the RST,Spot on. One of whom took issue with me when I criticised the banners only last week, saying he backed them fully then & now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 It would be interesting to know just what exactly Paul (Mini) Murray has promised Mark (Large) Dingwall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainofIndustry 921 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Really? There was me thinking it was the RST / FF - I could be wrong of course.MFDM, Paisleyprod, ABB; all involved in producing and/or holding up the anti-Miller banners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger77 742 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Ive never been a member of any Rangers fans group therefore carry no baggage. I cant understand the dislike, bitterness (call it what u will) against them from fellow Rangers fans.I will be joining the new membership scheme which will give 'we the fans' the opportunity to speak as one powerful fanbase, where nominated office bearers will most definately speak for the majority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoldierBlue1 499 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 It would be interesting to know just what exactly Paul (Mini) Murray has promised Mark (Large) Dingwalland Andy Kerr RSA who by joining RST by releasing joint statement has over stepped his remit From the Rangers Web Site::[size"THE Rangers Supporters Assembly is an independent body representing all Rangers fans.Set up in 2004 the key objectives of the initiative were firstly to provide supporters with access and influence over Club policies and decisions and, secondly, to improve communication and consultation between supporters and the Club."All very noble but how does it represent all fans when most fans have no input whatsoever? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Ive never been a member of any Rangers fans group therefore carry no baggage. I cant understand the dislike, bitterness (call it what u will) against them from fellow Rangers fans.I will be joining the new membership scheme which will give 'we the fans' the opportunity to speak as one powerful fanbase, where nominated office bearers will most definately speak for the majority.Well surely the RST will protest against such a scheme as they are opposed to membership schemes as they consider themselves to already be a recognised membership scheme.You would imagine a new membership scheme would be the end of the RST, but as stated in an early post "The RST isn't a Supporters Trust, it's a self-interest group" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,113 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Not to mention F--- off MA and the naming rights protests.TRS are trouble and very very Divisive indeed.Supporters groups are supposed to represent fans not isolate them.This was the problem under DM too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allanger 625 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Not to mention F--- off MA and the naming rights protests.TRS are trouble and very very Divisive indeed.Supporters groups are supposed to represent fans not isolate them.This was the problem under DM too.Sad but true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarkieDeek 61 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I think that if fans want to come together and create a large block of votes then that would be a good thing.I just won't be part of it. I am capable of making up my own mind and will quite enjoy the day out at the AGM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I take it that this guy is also the thickest guy you know?No I think he just read the misleading headline which promised him a chance to take part in club democracy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger77 742 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I would suggest that IF any 'Rangers group' did protest about a membership scheme designed to help our club, give our fans a say in the Boardroom and create a powerful unified fanbase, they would naturally be treated with suspicion by many genuine Rangers fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 and Andy Kerr RSA who by joining RST by releasing joint statement has over stepped his remit From the Rangers Web Site::[size"THE Rangers Supporters Assembly is an independent body representing all Rangers fans.Set up in 2004 the key objectives of the initiative were firstly to provide supporters with access and influence over Club policies and decisions and, secondly, to improve communication and consultation between supporters and the Club."All very noble but how does it represent all fans when most fans have no input whatsoever?They (the Assembly) are having a meeting today by the way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 The RST do not represent me and yes they do more harm than good and have done for along time a joke of a trust, most clubs supporters trusts are a well respected group group of fans who are a voice for the ordinary supporter so why are ours the opposite? What made the RST a joke? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non_Sucumbi 876 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I take it that this guy is also the thickest guy you know?Perhaps the correct term is gullible as opposed to 'thick'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWAC 2,234 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 The thing is the RST is irrelevant because the size of the membership.I do believe in supporter ownership but it'll never happen with those numbers, I doubt it'll ever happen also because the online toxic view of the RST.What I do wonder, if say the RST had 10k members would the current RST board members still be there?I think that if fans want to come together and create a large block of votes then that would be a good thing.I just won't be part of it. I am capable of making up my own mind and will quite enjoy the day out at the AGM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFE 35 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 The Bill Miller banners were organised by prominent members of FF and the RST,The Bill Miller banners were organised by Andy Smillie.I believe CA post to be correct and if even if Andy Smillie was any way involved it was most certainly prominent members who took them to the ground and displayed them therefore endorsing them.Would I not be correct in saying at the time they were happy to have their name associated with the banners? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 I suppose one of the points, of this thread, was to garner opinion about the non-internet (though ibrox attending) supporter.Let's be honest a lot of people still buy the rhebel or sun and they have been force-fed a diet ofspeaking for the fansthe fans speakfan groups sayetc etcwhen in fact it is absolutely nothing of the sort.Arthur Scargill would have been delighted to get away with such misrepresentation!So is there a requirement for information to be provided to the wider support that "fan group's say" really translates to a few folk?Say that a full page advert was taken out, in the programme, would people think this would be helpful to the wider support?Indeed are people happy to be misrepresented?I am genuinely interested as to whether it would be helpful to call these "fan groups" out or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
As I Was Walking.... 100 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I have to be careful as to comments re rst, only thing I can say....................I disagree with the Thread Title..................in the inclusion of the word Now.Start of Saturday afternoon and the good old Glasgow Banter is in evidence Just trying to lighten my comment Another point , re the recent comment by the Board re a proper fan membership, could this be them firing a shot towards the rst to say...............your days are numbered. After all if the Ltd Company set up this membership scheme the rst would be null and void and perhaps the current board of the rst could be banned from holding a similar position in this Ltd Co set up as to give that fresh outlook.This is a genuine reply to the OP.Don't normally comment on this type of thread ---- so wont start now ---- just to say welcome back ED Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFE 35 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Another point , re the recent comment by the Board re a proper fan membership, could this be them firing a shot towards the rst to say...............your days are numbered. After all if the Ltd Company set up this membership scheme the rst would be null and void and perhaps the current board of the rst could be banned from holding a similar position in this Ltd Co set up as to give that fresh outlook.This is a genuine reply to the OP.You make a very valid point, I couldn't in all good conscience support any fans membership scheme where the RST are the vehicle or the voice of the fans,It's much the same as I would like with those who run or want to run the club, a clean slate and the right people leading it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDetails 98 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Don't really believe they serve a purpose.I AM SETTING UP A NEW THING.RRST....REAL RANGERS SUPPORTER TRUST!!!Only a years wages and ur mortgage deeds to join.Get in FAST places are limited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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