Frank Reynolds 3,359 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I think we had a great opportunity last year to reshape our club's philosophy.I don't think it was willfully neglected, as I believe that - whether it was Ally, Green or whoever - that the vision was to get people through the gates, and it was short sighted.So we are where we are, with a bloated squad full of players with long and expensive contracts - although we are doing well this season, and could win with 100+ points if current form continuesNext season will be tough, as we will be up against full time teams, each who would love to have the pleasure of not only securing entry to the top flight, but being the ones to stop us doing so in the process.I haven't seriously entertained the idea of us not securing back to back promotions, as I think we have proven ourselves against championship teams away from home and on crappy pitches this seasonBe it with Ally, or if we had a new manager in place, would you consider the following scenario?Our manager announces that the club is going to change the club's focus to the youth team.I appreciate the Ajax system is a wet dream, and one I don't think is a realistic option, but I don't like to think that the boat has sailed completelyIf we were to field more of our youth players, while retaining some of the more experienced ones - a spine of the team, while we field Templeton, Macleod, Crawford and Aird more often.For this to happen, we would have to get a scout in place, and look at bringing in more youngsters that we wouldn't have to pay the earth for and could get a few years out of before selling them on for a profit.So, I realise that this is a lot of 'ifs and buts' - most likely will never happen, but I wondered if people would be open to the case of one or maybe two years in the championship to implement a new strategy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker 377 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Behave Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 83,754 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Tbh I think i'd happily remain in the Championship for a couple of years if there was a possibility of better football in the future. Utterly dire to watch atm and it just seems to get worse as time goes on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 75,039 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue No11 235 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 We need to change to that model as the current one is not sustainable and long term we might get some exciting football. Ally is not the man for that job im afraid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,675 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 No. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 We had a chance last year and this year.It ain't gonna happen now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,002 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Fucking mentalists.The object is to get back to the top table as quickly as possible, build our revenue streams and win back the title.Not playing Footie Manager scenarios. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 1,150 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 No it wouldn't IMO. The financial burden of running a club our size with the assets we have and don't want to lose or mortgage off means failure to get back to the top flight at first attempt would be a disaster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,308 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 What planet are some of you on? The very same people apoplectic about a draw! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,002 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 What planet are some of you on? The very same people apoplectic about a draw! Exactly. As long as it wasn't Ally, and it was a team of unproven boys, we can struggle for a few years trying to achieve promotion, cause that would do the young boys confidence the world of good and our finances.I despair reading this forum lately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 No chance of us being able to handle that financially Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertz 78 918 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 No way every year we are out of the spl yahoo fc hover up another £10m-14m in CL money unchallenged. Spending another season or two in the lower league just hands them a potential £24,000,000 on a plate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Fuck no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Biggest team in Scotland sitting in the 1st division ? Behave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,640 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 No.Although with Ally in charge who knows. We will get hammered in the top league under his guidance the way we play football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullery 240 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I think we had a great opportunity last year to reshape our club's philosophy.I don't think it was willfully neglected, as I believe that - whether it was Ally, Green or whoever - that the vision was to get people through the gates, and it was short sighted.So we are where we are, with a bloated squad full of players with long and expensive contracts - although we are doing well this season, and could win with 100+ points if current form continuesNext season will be tough, as we will be up against full time teams, each who would love to have the pleasure of not only securing entry to the top flight, but being the ones to stop us doing so in the process.I haven't seriously entertained the idea of us not securing back to back promotions, as I think we have proven ourselves against championship teams away from home and on crappy pitches this seasonBe it with Ally, or if we had a new manager in place, would you consider the following scenario?Our manager announces that the club is going to change the club's focus to the youth team.I appreciate the Ajax system is a wet dream, and one I don't think is a realistic option, but I don't like to think that the boat has sailed completelyIf we were to field more of our youth players, while retaining some of the more experienced ones - a spine of the team, while we field Templeton, Macleod, Crawford and Aird more often.For this to happen, we would have to get a scout in place, and look at bringing in more youngsters that we wouldn't have to pay the earth for and could get a few years out of before selling them on for a profit.So, I realise that this is a lot of 'ifs and buts' - most likely will never happen, but I wondered if people would be open to the case of one or maybe two years in the championship to implement a new strategy?i respect your post mate , first person on here who has used the word philosophy , then put some substance behind it .but our fans have no patience we have seen that over the years , as for accepting defeats our fans are not happy with a 4-0 victory never mind a draw or defeat .as for the youth 3 years in the lower leagues doesnt make you pass the ball any better than in the SPL ,its a fantasy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,674 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Winning successive promotions is vital. Anything less would be a footballing and financial disaster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,002 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 No.Although with Ally in charge who knows. We will get hammered in the top league under his guidance the way we play football.Except history shows us that is not the case. However much your wet dream wants it to be true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnymate1690 664 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 i personally think that if ally has to use the team he has in the championship that we will not win the league Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,659 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 No.Although with Ally in charge who knows. We will get hammered in the top league under his guidance the way we play football.Yup. Although it could be windy most weeks so, you know, there's that.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,640 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Except history shows us that is not the case. However much your wet dream wants it to be true.Stop greetin ya mess.History shows nothing because this hasn't happened before.McCoist is showing he doesn't have it, I can't help that.You continue to smash the keyboard in anger though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP FC 400 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I find it hard to comprehend how anyone could believe that this is feasible idea.That scenario would inflict so much damage, it could achieve what Whyte didn't.The youth players couldn't handle league two, so they certainly wouldn't handle another step up, the pressure from the fans is too great.The crowds would reach an all time low, because believe it or not, Rangers fans will vote with their feet (I remember the eighties).Reduced sponsors cash would see the stadium fabric deteriorate even further. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertz 78 918 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 No.Although with Ally in charge who knows. We will get hammered in the top league under his guidance the way we play football.Think too many fellow bears overestimate the utter crap in the SPL.Aberdeen the so called 2nd force in the spl right now have been humped twice this season by a car crash Hearts team that's 21 points behind everyone else. Motherwell the team that finished 2nd last season lost to albion rovers a few weeks back and yahoo fc got pumped at home by Greenock morton this season as well.If the club gets it's act together and brings in some fresh investement i've no doubt we'll be champs first season back in the spl no matter who the gaffer is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 72,640 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Champs our first season back?Some of you live on the moon Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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