thehost 11,061 Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 Make a deal with me, that when people I have no control over stop doing things you'll stop doin things? What part of that deal am I involved in? I hope your business deals are a bit clearer than that.You ask me to stop obsessingI tell you I wont have anything to obsess over if people didn't keep up their antics.In other words you'd be better placed focussing on getting Alistair to stop destabilising the club than me from having to react to it. Unless, of course, you would prefer me to ignore what he says and live in a world of milk and honey? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchibaldLeitch 380 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I can't think of any of our ex players/ coaches to have come out and publicly criticised David Murray since his actions almost destroyed our club. On a side note, how is his MIM companies getting on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,189 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I'm seeing something from ally I don't particularly like. I don't get this constant media involvement, interviews like "I have my opinions on what's gone on here, but I'll keep them to myself" is there a need to tell the world this?I think he's trying to apply pressure to someone, or added pressure on himself, I just don't get it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirheadbear 1,483 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 David Murray would be as welcome as a big, wet fart in a space suit!If he came back in any shape or form I would burn my ST! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepeter 5,627 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 You ask me to stop obsessingI tell you I wont have anything to obsess over if people didn't keep up their antics.In other words you'd be better placed focussing on getting Alistair to stop destabilising the club than me from having to react to it. Unless, of course, you would prefer me to ignore what he says and live in a world of milk and honey?So it was just the 'I will make a deal with you' part of your last post that was wrong? Fair enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,189 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 David Murray would be as welcome as a big, wet fart in a space suit!If he came back in any shape or form I would burn my ST!I fucking love the smell of my own farts so that wouldn't be that bad for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Ally really needs to shut the fuck up, he's fast becoming a laughing stock and making it really clear he wants a return to the old guard and the old ways. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I'm seeing something from ally I don't particularly like. I don't get this constant media involvement, interviews like "I have my opinions on what's gone on here, but I'll keep them to myself" is there a need to tell the world this?I think he's trying to apply pressure to someone, or added pressure on himself, I just don't get itIt's dawned on him that he can't do the job without a big chequebook, so he has suddenly found himself in a great big hole and is trying his hardest to get Wallace to sack him so he can run to his pals in the timmy press shouting about how hard done by he was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon 1,743 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 When can we start using the term "Rangers hater" to describe some of our own support? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 12,365 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Here is the bold Alistair's latesthttp://www.dailymail..._medium=twitter'I'm delighted Dave is still interested in the club. Same for Paul Murray and David Murray because they are people whose opinions will be valued by Rangers supporters.Bumming up the architect of our downfall now.Beyond comprehension and shows the gulf in thinking between those who were made multi-millionaires and those who have to live with the demonization and ruin of a once proud institution.Looks like he has been mis-quoted, not like journos to do that eh?Pretty sure he means Malcolm.If Ally really said David the papers would be all over it.End thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,189 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 LWhen can we start using the term "Rangers hater" to describe some of our own support?About 6 month ago Not like Brian "staunch" Stockbridge Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 When can we start using the term "Rangers hater" to describe some of our own support?Dear oh dear, only people I see hating Rangers are the fan Spivs and rebels constantly trying to undermine the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob1969 1,473 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Beyond comprehension and shows the gulf in thinking between those who were made multi-millionaires and those who have to live with the demonization and ruin of a once proud institution.Our downfall is not down to one man. As fans we demand success and across the football world every manager seeks to buy success as much as earn it. We bought players we couldn't always afford. Man U are shelling out £40 mill for one man. Celtic are currently trying to pacify fans who expect money being spent and it isn't coming (January almost over and they aint spending much yet). Ally has done it too and I can't blame him but someone should have told him to look for cheaper targets. On the face of it Daly and Law are good pros who will get us to the SPFL, Wallace, Bell, Clark and Templeton will be playing in the top tier. Fans need to accept that they can't have success without spending money. IF we could replace Ally would that manager be expected to be successful without spending a dime? Naw! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topgoalie 637 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I don't disagree about Murray, there aren't many Rangers fans who would have much good to say about him.Your obsession is a different matter, something you should probably talk to someone about.Bawsburst would be a good starter....imagine being stuck in the middle of that conversation.lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds 3,359 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Said it before, and I'll say it again:There's a big difference between Ally the legend and McCoist the manager.While I don't rate him as a manager, he is the manager of my team, and will support him until he is no longer so.Having said that, I don't think that supporting him means I can't criticise him, as long as it is relevant and constructive.I do wish I could stop reading his frankly confusing interviews to the press, as I seem to read more about his views on the boardroom pish than I do about his footballing ideasThe camps of blind supporters and abject haters seem to be a minority, thankfully.Still, it seems the minority speaks the loudest - making us seem to outsiders as a club riddled with infighting, whereas I'd hope the majority of us just want to get on with it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleyroad 894 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 i honestly think if we'd heard this interview instead of reading it, it may well have come across differently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirheadbear 1,483 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 i honestly think if we'd heard this interview instead of reading it, it may well have come across differently.You're probably right PR. Good point! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon 1,743 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 LAbout 6 month ago Not like Brian "staunch" Stockbridge Every fucking day, someone is flinging shite at the club complaining about McCoist for some reason or another. Ripping my knitting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan 156 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I know that you have no love for McCoist, as a manager, but it's starting to look like you hate the guy.I agree that Ally should just concentrate on team matters, rather than things which are outwith his remit.He's the biggest fanny on the internet.This is the guy who was blowing smoke up Craig Whyte's arse when he was ripping our club to pieces.Ask him what he thinks of Walter Smith.A Rangers fan he aint. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,276 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Different day, same shit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan 156 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Hate the guy?Im pointing out that he thinks that fans think david murray is a "good guy".This is the guy who brought us to where we are today, the architect of our downfall a man who allowed the club to be vilified.I'd go further. Anyone who holds murray in high regard cannot be a Rangers supporter. The evidence will tell you that it is mutually exclusive.Says Craig Whyte's biggest fan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirheadbear 1,483 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I've read a couple of comments on this thread and I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone can tolerate David Murray!!!Would these people argue that both he and Llloyds had no idea what kind if character Craig Whyte was??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKIP BEAR 370 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I think you'll find that the vast majority of player's at Rangers during the murray years will think he's the bee's knee's,he did make them all millionaires after all.Most of them have never paid a penny in but have taken plenty out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,276 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I think you'll find that the vast majority of player's at Rangers during the murray years will think he's the bee's knee's,he did make them all millionaires after all.Most of them have never paid a penny in but have taken plenty out.How much have you paid to your employer? It's all well and good players pledging allegiance to the club, however we should never forget at the end of the day it's a job! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 We were brought down by Whyte and Whyte alone. If he had bought the club with £18 million of his own money and then paid the PAYE and VAT on time, we would still be top of the SPL.SDM had a number of faults but, under his stewardship, the club won more trophies than in any other era, and in doing so, gave me some of the happiest moments of my life. Let us not forget.Who sold to Whyte? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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