simplythebest 11,453 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Nope, I've never said that actually - I brought it up as an example as to how the standards of Rangers fans hasn't fallen, perhaps you should go back and read over that thread, believe it was GOAT's thread? Yeah, if I misunderstood it then fair enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I can't think of one team where the manager does not try to improve every year - but then again RM posters know best - not!But this is a unique situation one any club in the world or in history has never found themselfs in Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewaj3 1,446 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 By the way... The answer to the question really is whatever Wallace decides he should have. For me I do hope it's freshened up a bit, but on a one in, one out basis and no transfer fees... Our experienced players and high earners areBell- keepSimonsen- seems a lovely guy and a good gk but he should goFoster- goFaure - not fussed, probably go.Cribari - goPerry - goMoshni - keepJig- keep... Due to what he has given us... I'd like to see him stay on til we are in the premiership... Deserves to lead us back thereWallace - keepSmith - if on reasonable wages keepPeralta - goTempleton - keepBlack - keepLaw - keepShiels - probably go... Great on his day but doesn't do it enoughHutton - (including him as he's been around forever) don't mind, maybe keep if on a cheap 1 year deal, looked promising in pre season... Then got injured... Would be very very last chance saloon though.Little - see aboveDaly - he's gonna stay... Hate the style of play we have with him up top though.So in my eyes that's up to 7 players we could bring in.. Hopefully peralta goes and has a blinding World Cup.... And we can start posting that free kick against Dundee on here... And we sell him for a high price... Wishful thinking Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 There you go jumping to extremes againDid you not read a word I said? This is nothing new I supposeIf we have more than enough to see us up again next year then why spend money improving when it's not essential and we will need all the funds we can for the year after?Bayern Munich at present, and Barcelona in recent years have squads good enough to win European Champion's leagues, way ahead of the opposition, yet they still seek constant improvement, as did the great Real Madrid teams of the 60s.In fact, no matter how good their squad every team will look to improve their squad year after year.Why do you think we should be the exception and stand still for the next year or so.Jumping to extremes, no, just common sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 We've spent too much money in these lower leagues already sadlyMoney spent towards bigger ambitions ? If we had not spent that money over last two seasons would we have an squad who had played together strong enough for the next season's league ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Bayern Munich at present, and Barcelona in recent years have squads good enough to win European Champion's leagues, way ahead of the opposition, yet they still seek constant improvement, as did the great Real Madrid teams of the 60s.In fact, no matter how good their squad every team will look to improve their squad year after year.Why do you think we should be the exception and stand still for the next year or so.Jumping to extremes, no, just common sense.Your not really getting it are you?Ok give Ally a war chest Some people Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcodebear 85 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 30p and that's being generous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Money spent towards bigger ambitions ?Signing the likes of Peralta and Foster was about ambitions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 But this is a unique situation one any club in the world or in history has never found themselfs inOk. Agreed. So? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 But this is a unique situation one any club in the world or in history has never found themselfs inOther big teams have been demoted to lower leagues, Juventus, Fiorentina being just two examples, off the top of my head.Many teams have had financial restrictions, embargoes, large fines, even points deductions.If I had time to search around I'm sure there are many more throughout "the world or in history" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Bayern Munich at present, and Barcelona in recent years have squads good enough to win European Champion's leagues, way ahead of the opposition, yet they still seek constant improvement, as did the great Real Madrid teams of the 60s.In fact, no matter how good their squad every team will look to improve their squad year after year.Why do you think we should be the exception and stand still for the next year or so.Jumping to extremes, no, just common sense.They haven't done all that over a 3 or 4 year period of rebuilding, from the boardroom to the changing room though.I agree with your sentiment that we should always be looking to improve, but is improvement a necessity for next season when the cost could hamper our ability to hit the ground running in season 2015/16? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Your not really getting it are you?Ok give Ally a war chestSome peopleIf that money is invested, or available on a correct business founding then I would be happy, and if that kind of investment was forthcoming it is possible that there would also be changes to the management structure..Is your personal dislike for Ally getting in the way of what is best for Rangers, i.e more investment and team building to reach a point we have a team which is capable of competing at the higher end of the SPL and possibly Europe by end of next season and can hit the ground running in 17 months time. We cant sleepwalk next season just because you think the current squad is already good enough to win the first division. We need constant improvement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 They haven't done all that over a 3 or 4 year period of rebuilding, from the boardroom to the changing room though.I agree with your sentiment that we should always be looking to improve, but is improvement a necessity for next season when the cost could hamper our ability to hit the ground running in season 2015/16?Has the cost of the squads of this and last season hampered our ability to hit the ground running this season and next ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Has the cost of the squads of this and last season hampered our ability to hit the ground running this season and next ?No, but then again the cost for this season and last will pale in comparison to what it will cost for our first season back in the top division. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Ok. Agreed. So?So..... We don't need to spend money next season to get us back to the top and should save whatever we have for top flight? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammyfraserrfc 5 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 We do need to bring in a couple of players, but i would seriously think twice about allowing Ally to have the cash. lets not forget another harsh reality and that is the split among the support and the threats to with hold ST money from a section of our support. If this materializes then we will be reducing player quality not improving on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 So..... We don't need to spend money next season to get us back to the top and should save whatever we have for top flight?It's like fking Groundhog Day now - we might not need to but if we can we should to get the players bedded in Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 So..... We don't need to spend money next season to get us back to the top and should save whatever we have for top flight?We need to improve our current squad over the next 12 months or so in order to have a squad and experienced team who will hit the ground running if we reach the SPL next year. That will require money over the next 12 months.Would be very shortsighted to use a nest egg to spend money on an unproven squad for our first foray in to the SPL. Possibly suicidal in fact. We will need experienced player who have already gelled at that level, or we will be ripped apart in the first few games.Just imagine we had waited a few years till we got in to SPL to spend money on experienced proven top flight scorers like Kyle or Sandanza, or experienced international players like Cribari and Peralta.It is so important to invest this year rather than wait till we are about to enter the SPL, no matter how big the "nest egg". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy 1,308 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Sell to buy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalton 1,192 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 We are not in any position to start buying players for the sake of it.This is Glasgow Rangers Not QPR from london -harry & pooch the dog Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 It's like fking Groundhog Day now - we might not need to but if we can we should to get the players bedded inI'm willing to bet most will be free transfers/out of contract players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I'm willing to bet most will be free transfers/out of contract players.Think that is a certainty too, and i think most clubs would over-inflate the fee, or try and stitch us up on a transfer fee.Would not surprise me if most of those players coming in for next season, and possibly the year after, already know, (allegedly ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Think that is a certainty too, and i think most clubs would over-inflate the fee, or try and stitch us up on a transfer fee.Would not surprise me if most of those players coming in for next season, and possibly the year after, already know, (allegedly )One in particular I know for a fact thinks he's coming back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Depends who is in charge ( in the boardroom )Guessing there will be a bit of "one in, one out" maybe one marquee signing. . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 61,470 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Sell to buy.Yip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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