KingKaiJohansen 118 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Would be financially suicide IMO Shipbuilding is a dead trade in this country, BAE only survive due to the government contracts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumloyal 15,057 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Would be financially suicide IMOShipbuilding is a dead trade in this country, BAE only survive due to the government contracts.We don't only do contracts for our government, we also do bespoke contracts for other nations; in the last 10 years we have built ships for Dubai, Trinidad & Tobago, Malaysia and have done refit work for Type 23s for the Romanians. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie0202 12,476 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Now who can argue with that? I think we're all indebted to Gabby Johnson for clearly stating what needed to be said. I'm particulary glad that these lovely children were here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, it expressed a courage little seen in this day and age. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Disgusting can we have a Statement? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace 3,556 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 You idiots, McGills buses need more routes into Glasgow from Port Glasgow/Greenock ..... FLOATING BUSES, it's so fuckin' obvious. Ferguson will adapt the fleet and make them amphibious, the new company motto will be ... "By road or by by river, we will deliver (the passengers .. to the ... err ... Glasgow, aye!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Dog 9,878 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 We don't only do contracts for our government, we also do bespoke contracts for other nations; in the last 10 years we have built ships for Dubai, Trinidad & Tobago, Malaysia and have done refit work for Type 23s for the Romanians.Not enough to keep you going post independence though? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumloyal 15,057 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Not enough to keep you going post independence though?If independence were to come about (touch wood, it doesn't) we would have to rely on foreign orders on our books, it would mean scaling back but I believe we would survive in a smaller capacity. Building warships is far more specialised than commercial build. As such, skillbase is a major factor in the tender process for defence contracts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoorie 1,088 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 If independence were to come about (touch wood, it doesn't) we would have to rely on foreign orders on our books, it would mean scaling back but I believe we would survive in a smaller capacity. Building warships is far more specialised than commercial build. As such, skillbase is a major factor in the tender process for defence contracts.And this is where we are with independence. Scotland separates itself from the UK and depends on foreign investment, to build ships for foreign nations!If those foreign nations decide that they will not order ships from Scotland, goodnight. Put the lights out!Edit to add......Fucking BEARS DEN? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio 1,199 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 This is a riveting thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,831 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 If independence were to come about (touch wood, it doesn't) we would have to rely on foreign orders on our books, it would mean scaling back but I believe we would survive in a smaller capacity. Building warships is far more specialised than commercial build. As such, skillbase is a major factor in the tender process for defence contracts.The non-British naval shipbuilding work uses Admiralty designs and specifications. Even allowing for the use of these designs, there is no way that there would be enough work to keep the Glasgow yards open. With modern shipbuilding modular construction, the ships can be built just about anywhere. Portsmouth or Belfast or Plymouth for a start. BAe will not keep the yards going up here if the majority of their work is in the rest of the UK. People underestimate the current level of goodwill which will disappear if Scotland goes independent. If anyone thinks that the UK government will let ships be built outwith the UK then they are deluding themselves. The outcry would ensure that work leaves Scotland and who could blame them. The anti-English campaign would rebound on the SNP and its followers.Anyway, Fergusons used to be a good little company and I hope that the Easdales can help them out in some way. If this doesn't make people sit up and think about staying in the UK then nothing will. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRoyalBlueShirt 140 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 And this is where we are with independence. Scotland separates itself from the UK and depends on foreign investment, to build ships for foreign nations!If those foreign nations decide that they will not order ships from Scotland, goodnight.Put the lights out!Edit to add......Fucking BEARS DEN? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRoyalBlueShirt 140 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 The anti-English campaign would rebound on the SNP and its followers.The most ridiculous thing I've ever read on here, and from a mod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,831 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 The most ridiculous thing I've ever read on here, and from a mod. In your opinion which is clearly worthless. You are obviously one of the idiots who will vote to leave the UK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_ger 1,454 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 The Easedales have called in the National Guard to sort out this mess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 This is a riveting threadI'm easily amused. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Have the UoF complained yet?Its all a plan to sell off the shipyards assets according to the Union of Shipbuilders and the Sons of John Brown. (No, not that one)The UOS and the SOJB claim the brothers are really BAE supporters and demand security over the big crane and the factory dug.Failing that they will never set foot on a ship til they do. UOS spokesperson, Craig Houston, said "I can't see any reason they won't give us the assets they just paid for. Clearly they are up to something. We are urging the workers to boycott the factory until they do. I have heard rumours of a south African based zillionaire who is going round telling folk he wants to use the workers redundancy cash to buy the yard which will make us bigger than BAE.That sounds a great deal and he sounds like the man for the job.I'm sure one the strike bites and it looks like we're doomed he will ride to the rescue. My associate known only as John Brown's Cat says it's only a matter of time as the tide is coming in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian 4,281 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 On another note, it seems their Rangers connection only gets mentioned on negative stories. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,287 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 This is good news Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,567 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 You 'new' it ? What school did you attend ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 768 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 surprised by this,but wish them the best for the benefit of those losing their jobs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,831 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 If they do buy Fergusons does anyone think they will try and float the company.?? They could launch a share issue!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumnockbear 2,446 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I see Craig Houston is raging about this on his SOS page, he's got a photo up with the Easdales and Toxic Jack Irvine at some meeting in the yard, wouldn't be surprised if he was down there and snapped the photo himself like he did from behind billboards at Ibrox of ST queues Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,893 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I see Craig Houston is raging about this on his SOS page, he's got a photo up with the Easdales and Toxic Jack Irvine at some meeting in the yard, wouldn't be surprised if he was down there and snapped the photo himself like he did from behind billboards at Ibrox of ST queues Is this true ? If it is then Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohno99 0 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 i can already see their takeover plansfirstly they claim that the current owners are spivs and that they have robbed the shipyard of a fortunethen they get a few of the workers to shout loudest about said spivvery and that the current owners must goafter that the easdales will try and convince any prospective business to not give the shipyard the businessthen after that the easdales will meet the current owners to discuss how the shipyard is going to operate in the near futurefinally the easdales will demand that the shipyard owners sign over their assets eg the shipyard and all related machineryAll the while the easdales wont actually put a single penny into the company sounds about right Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Ranger 1,554 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Is this true ? >It is true and sad. I guess he has went to the well too many times using the same BS that he needs another angle to generate hatred and hostility towards our Board. I still have no idea on the relevance?!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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