AlCapone 7,678 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I don't think it's as unachievable as you think to get say 60k. When we are back in the PL chasing titles and European runs. If the Rangers marketing team could work on the 'matchday experience' along with a dedicated standing area........I could go on forever but it could be done.Mate we had a capacity of 50k for 20 years and haven't managed 1 season where we averaged 50k. Two issues here, the cost would be many many millions to get 3-4 games a year where you might sell an extra 10k seats which wouldn't even get you a million pound a season extra revenue. No return on investment for your outlay.The second point is season tickets, scarcity of seats forces people to pay money up front for the ST. An extra 10k seats takes away the scarcity and the need to buy a ST in advance for many. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Gallant Pioneer 555 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Mate we had a capacity of 50k for 20 years and haven't managed 1 season where we averaged 50k. Two issues here, the cost would be many many millions to get 3-4 games a year where you might sell an extra 10k seats which wouldn't even get you a million pound a season extra revenue. No return on investment for your outlay.The second point is season tickets, scarcity of seats forces people to pay money up front for the ST. An extra 10k seats takes away the scarcity and the need to buy a ST in advance for many.What is your feelings on Celtic having a far bigger ground, larger revenue potential and as long as both stadiums stay as they are, posting far great turnovers and having a greater spending power than us from now until the end of time? Are you happy playing 2nd fiddle financially? Do you not think the biggest club in the land should have the biggest stadium and ability to earn the most money? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds 3,359 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 What is your feelings on Celtic having a far bigger ground, larger revenue potential and as long as both stadiums stay as they are, posting far great turnovers and having a greater spending power than us from now until the end of time? Are you happy playing 2nd fiddle financially? Do you not think the biggest club in the land should have the biggest stadium and ability to earn the most money? They can't fill their stadium, and they have had 4 straight cracks at the CL, what makes you think we could?And Al is right, it's supply and demand, the more seats available, the less reason for people to buy season tickets, and that doesn't make financial sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,856 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 New roof please! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Will,that be tied in with the opening ceremony for the Glasgow Olympics?M8 its for when Scotland hosts the World Cup Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,549 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 And the prophetic thread award goes to... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebrows 42 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Mate we had a capacity of 50k for 20 years and haven't managed 1 season where we averaged 50k. Two issues here, the cost would be many many millions to get 3-4 games a year where you might sell an extra 10k seats which wouldn't even get you a million pound a season extra revenue. No return on investment for your outlay.The second point is season tickets, scarcity of seats forces people to pay money up front for the ST. An extra 10k seats takes away the scarcity and the need to buy a ST in advance for many.I see your point, it might take a few years but you would eventually get a return on the investment. Far more return than 2 big TVs screens that bring nothing to the stadium. All that money spent on jumbo screens just so I can see highlights of the last time we played Dumbarton.To be fair, when I was posting I was thinking more about the cosmetic side, I think the screens are an absolute eye sore and have thought that from day 1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebrows 42 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Mate we had a capacity of 50k for 20 years and haven't managed 1 season where we averaged 50k. Two issues here, the cost would be many many millions to get 3-4 games a year where you might sell an extra 10k seats which wouldn't even get you a million pound a season extra revenue. No return on investment for your outlay.The second point is season tickets, scarcity of seats forces people to pay money up front for the ST. An extra 10k seats takes away the scarcity and the need to buy a ST in advance for many.I see your point, it might take a few years but you would eventually get a return on the investment. Far more return than 2 big TVs screens that bring nothing to the stadium. All that money spent on jumbo screens just so I can see highlights of the last time we played Dumbarton.To be fair, when I was posting I was thinking more about the cosmetic side, I think the screens are an absolute eye sore and have thought that from day 1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds 3,359 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I see your point, it might take a few years but you would eventually get a return on the investment. Far more return than 2 big TVs screens that bring nothing to the stadium. All that money spent on jumbo screens just so I can see highlights of the last time we played Dumbarton.To be fair, when I was posting I was thinking more about the cosmetic side, I think the screens are an absolute eye sore and have thought that from day 1.Over many seasons, maybe we would make our money back, but is it really the best way to spend millions of pounds we desperately need in other areas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Gallant Pioneer 555 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 They can't fill their stadium, and they have had 4 straight cracks at the CL, what makes you think we could?And Al is right, it's supply and demand, the more seats available, the less reason for people to buy season tickets, and that doesn't make financial sense.The crowds will be back next season on our return. I think we are a bigger club with a bigger domestic fanbase and the club sold right could easily manage a bigger ground. It wouldn't have to sell out every week. The tarriers stadium has played a huge role in making them the financial monster in Scottish football. It's an enormous handicap for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlearyEyedBear 4,148 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Got the EuroMillions numbers for Friday night Rupret? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds 3,359 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 The crowds will be back next season on our return. I think we are a bigger club with a bigger domestic fanbase and the club sold right could easily manage a bigger ground. It wouldn't have to sell out every week. The tarriers stadium has played a huge role in making them the financial monster in Scottish football. It's an enormous handicap for us.It's actually a handicap for them, they have to sell a Wanyama or a Van Dijk every season or so, otherwise they're fucked.Unless it's regularly going to be filled out, which it won't, it's a waste of time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Gallant Pioneer 555 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 It's actually a handicap for them, they have to sell a Wanyama or a Van Dijk every season or so, otherwise they're fucked.Unless it's regularly going to be filled out, which it won't, it's a waste of time.I disagree but that's ok. We can leave it there. Some folk think we need a bigger ground, some don't. C'est la vie amigo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD.1872 890 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 OP has a touch of the Derek Acorah's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP FC 400 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I don't think it's as unachievable as you think to get say 60k. When we are back in the PL chasing titles and European runs. If the Rangers marketing team could work on the 'matchday experience' along with a dedicated standing area........I could go on forever but it could be done.We never had one sellout on the way to Manchester. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,236 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I don't think it's as unachievable as you think to get say 60k. When we are back in the PL chasing titles and European runs. If the Rangers marketing team could work on the 'matchday experience' along with a dedicated standing area........I could go on forever but it could be done.When we were last winning trebles and competing in the CL hosting top teams we never sold out the stadium. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 My upgrade would be for the club to sign up to the government energy savings trust scheme, who would fit solar panels to the roof. The clubs energy bills would be reduced and any excess energy made can be sold back to the national grid. http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/blog/2015/11/solar-powered-football-stadiums Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,226 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 My upgrade would be for the club to sign up to the government energy savings trust scheme, who would fit solar panels to the roof. The clubs energy bills would be reduced and any excess energy made can be sold back to the national grid. http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/blog/2015/11/solar-powered-football-stadiumsIs this not incredibly expensive? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Is this not incredibly expensive?I believe it's a free scheme, the government offer the same scheme free to households also.Edit: Here's the info http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/domestic/feed-tariff-scheme Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,614 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I believe it's a free scheme, the government offer the same scheme free to households also.Edit: Here's the info http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/domestic/feed-tariff-schemeWell that's us fucked with the SNP then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Well that's us fucked with the SNP then.nope, here's what you'd get if it was installed in your home. Imagine what Rangers would get if the club installed it on just one roof.http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/domestic/solar-water-heatingHousehold sizeAssumed system sizeRenewable Heat Incentive (RHI) payment (£/year)1 April 2015 to 31 December 2015 2 person household 2 m2 £195 3 person household 3 m2 £265 4 person household 4 m2 £335 5 person household 6 m2 £435 6 person household 6 m2 £470 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Is this not incredibly expensive?Just found this website, which says that it's free to football stadiums.Energy Saving Solar are offering free solar PV systems to football stadiums and clubs around the UK. Our innovative scheme allows clubs to embrace all the benefits of solar energy on site, without any significant upfront investment. Talk to us today about whether your stadium qualifies for our free solar panel schemehttp://www.energysavingsolar.co.uk/commercial-solar-panels-football-stadiums/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegecko 306 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I understand we're in line for funding from the GCC to renovate the area surrounding Ibrox.There was a deal between gcc and Murray around the time we were trying to get the super casino licence. It would be tied in with hotels shops restaurants and new approach to the ground like Wembley way kind of thing. They would still be open to helping us achieve some forms of regeneration Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio 1,199 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Get Greggs in .. fuck the upgrade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essandoh 21,226 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 If it's free I would be interested in seeing how it could be used but at the same time, call me backwards, I'd be worried in the panels making the stadium look ugly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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