K.A.I 36,183 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Chineseboy said: RM is one fucked up forum. Only on here can a guy who gave us great moments ( Butcher) be slated as a prick, wanker etc etc. Yet on another thread we are falling over ourselves in praise of a fucking total cunt, taig loving prick of a man ( Barton). Only on this forum! How's it fucked up to hate someone who joined in with Celtic over your demise? That is the real baffling thing about this place - why people have an issue with fans who don't respect people who do this no surprise chief gimp liked your comment either Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Ex player speaks - hate fest (with usual candidates) starts. We want transparency and openness - as long as its favourable! Butcher was a great captain for us - but MEH! who cares about that anymore - much better to just disregard anything said or better hate the man for giving an opinion! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Just now, Bluepeter9 said: Ex player speaks - hate fest (with usual candidates) starts. We want transparency and openness - as long as its favourable! Butcher was a great captain for us - but MEH! who cares about that anymore - much better to just disregard anything said or better hate the man for giving an opinion! Are you serious? You honestly think people hate him for him being honest in that article? We all know you are a pitiful deluded little man but that takes it to the next level Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,376 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said: Ex player speaks - hate fest (with usual candidates) starts. We want transparency and openness - as long as its favourable! Butcher was a great captain for us - but MEH! who cares about that anymore - much better to just disregard anything said or better hate the man for giving an opinion! This post makes no sense. Why would we hate for this particular opinion when it was, this time, rather positive? His time as captain will be remembered by those who saw him lead our team, but his antics since leaving us has left a sour taste in the mouths of many bears. He isn't regarded as highly as other past players because of his own stupidity and big mouth, not because Rangers fans are bipolar cunts like you're trying to suggest. So take a flying fuck to yourself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 22 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said: Ex player speaks - hate fest (with usual candidates) starts. We want transparency and openness - as long as its favourable! Butcher was a great captain for us - but MEH! who cares about that anymore - much better to just disregard anything said or better hate the man for giving an opinion! I'm pretty sure ive found Paul Murray Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Some folk just can't take those blue tinted specs off when it comes to past players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Give Warburton a new 5 year contact. He's the future of this club Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopsleftboot 5,512 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 7 hours ago, SasaPapacLoyal said: Cant forget helicopter Sunday either When I'm engaging with any jelly and ice-creamers I like to remind them of Helicopter Sundae. Although it comes across far better when written. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briton 394 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 44 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said: Butcher was a great captain for us - but MEH! who cares about that anymore - much better to just disregard anything said or better hate the man for giving an opinion! Who has said he wasn't a great captain for us? I'm not a Butcher hater but I'd like to ask something I've asked before regarding Ally McCoist but I never seem to get an answer; what has a player's qualities have to do with how you judge behaviour, how good do you have to be before allowances are made and would you not care if he had been an average player for us? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Stopped reading when I got to Rangers. Butcher needs tae mind his own business. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 33 minutes ago, Briton said: Who has said he wasn't a great captain for us? I'm not a Butcher hater but I'd like to ask something I've asked before regarding Ally McCoist but I never seem to get an answer; what has a player's qualities have to do with how you judge behaviour, how good do you have to be before allowances are made and would you not care if he had been an average player for us? Absolutely mate. Butcher was a fantastic player for us and I'm grateful but that doesn't give you a free pass going forward especially joining in with the taigs and ice cream and jelly at our demise - that was shameful I've no idea if he's in the hall of fame - if so, remove him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I think I must be missing something. What's Butcher done in the past that makes everyone hate him so much? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Players get paid to play for our club. When they leave, we owe them nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, thebooler said: Players get paid to play for our club. When they leave, we owe them nothing. I don't think 'owing them' is the right phrase. Many, many players have earned a lasting place in our memories and some gratitude. Besides, holding ex-players dear is more for our benefit than theirs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briton 394 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Absolutely mate. Butcher was a fantastic player for us and I'm grateful but that doesn't give you a free pass going forward especially joining in with the taigs and ice cream and jelly at our demise - that was shameful I've no idea if he's in the hall of fame - if so, remove him I don't think anybody for whom Rangers isn't their main club should be in anyway, but that's probably another thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chineseboy 1,563 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 37 minutes ago, Inigo said: I think I must be missing something. What's Butcher done in the past that makes everyone hate him so much? This. I don't understand why so many fans hate/dislike him. What exactly did he say? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, Chineseboy said: This. I don't understand why so many fans hate/dislike him. What exactly did he say? I'm not sure about what he said, but he refused to play in a cup s/f (I think) for Souness because he was made reserve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,288 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 1 hour ago, K.A.I said: Absolutely mate. Butcher was a fantastic player for us and I'm grateful but that doesn't give you a free pass going forward especially joining in with the taigs and ice cream and jelly at our demise - that was shameful I've no idea if he's in the hall of fame - if so, remove him Didn't know about that or had forgotten about it through the mists of time. Agree with the point though that it doesn't matter what you did as a player, being a dick afterwards will leave a bad taste in the mouth and also being an ex player does not give you a free pass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,288 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 18 minutes ago, thebooler said: I'm not sure about what he said, but he refused to play in a cup s/f (I think) for Souness because he was made reserve. Was it not that Butcher said he was injured but Souness said he was fine to play and they fell out? This was Skol cup semi or the final itself in the 90/91 season iirc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 1 hour ago, thebooler said: Players get paid to play for our club. When they leave, we owe them nothing. Can't agree with this at all mate. Think your emotion is just getting to you. Take a look at Fernando and his battles. I am so proud of the way the club and the fans rally round one of our own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, MisterC said: Was it not that Butcher said he was injured but Souness said he was fine to play and they fell out? This was Skol cup semi or the final itself in the 90/91 season iirc It was a good bit more complicated than that, IIRC. Souness had left Butcher languishing a bit in the reserves as well, and had been touting him about trying to get rid of him (and telling Butcher he was gone), before out of the blue telling him he was playing v the mhanks. Of course, Souness implied otherwise and pretty much tried to put the blame for the whole situation on Butcher. It really depends on who you believe, and we probably don't know the full story, but neither Souness (not like him to fall out with a player, brilliant man-manager that he was) nor Butcher seem to come out that well. But regardless, putting Butcher in the cunt category because of a Souness rammy 25 years ago... nah, not for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,288 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 15 minutes ago, Inigo said: It was a good bit more complicated than that, IIRC. Souness had left Butcher languishing a bit in the reserves as well, and had been touting him about trying to get rid of him (and telling Butcher he was gone), before out of the blue telling him he was playing v the mhanks. Of course, Souness implied otherwise and pretty much tried to put the blame for the whole situation on Butcher. It really depends on who you believe, and we probably don't know the full story, but neither Souness (not like him to fall out with a player, brilliant man-manager that he was) nor Butcher seem to come out that well. But regardless, putting Butcher in the cunt category because of a Souness rammy 25 years ago... nah, not for me. Looking at the posts I would say peoples main issue are the things he has said and done since leaving us,esp that jelly and ice cream thing in 2012 rather than falling out with Souness. I have no beef with him over what happened when he left in 1990. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 1 minute ago, MisterC said: Looking at the posts I would say peoples main issue are the things he has said and done since leaving us,esp that jelly and ice cream thing in 2012 rather than falling out with Souness. I have no beef with him over what happened when he left in 1990. Genuinely don't know what the jelly and ice cream thing is. The only thing I know about is the 'new' club thing, which wasn't a surprising thing to say and to me was more reflective of media and other fans propaganda along his own ignorance on the subject than of him being malicious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Just saw the jelly and ice cream thing there. Am left wondering if people are being serious when they say they're offended by that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Inigo said: I think I must be missing something. What's Butcher done in the past that makes everyone hate him so much? Yes I'm being serious well offended no, let down and angered yes? It baffles me how easy a time people who have no time for and insult our club get get off people on here Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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