RFC55 109,189 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Do these things not normally work by, club A signing the player from club B, and if compensation can't be agreed it then goes to the tribunal just like it did for ings to Liverpool and telfer to Dundee utd Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosebrad 452 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 seem to me its sour grapes and the guy is just being a total prick about all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,558 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Rfc52 said: Do these things not normally work by, club A signing the player from club B, and if compensation can't be agreed it then goes to the tribunal just like it did for ings to Liverpool and telfer to Dundee utd Yes this is what will happen after 1st of July. The guys are under contract still with Accrington until 30th June but after that point they are under contract with us and can train, they can only play if they are registered but I'm not sure if any tribunal/negotiations around the development fee will get in the way of that. So the bottom line is their pettiness is taking away 2 weeks of training and gelling that these guys can have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willber1974 6 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 The process for calculating the compensation for u23s isn't straight forward hence why Rangers need information from Accrington Stanley. Unfortunately for them they didn't rear these players, Huddersfield did. Crooks was only there 17 months and Windass three years. These training costs are only applicable until the age of 21 or once established as a first team player. (training complete) http://blog.fieldoo.com/2014/05/the-calculation-of-training-compensation-in-football-part-1/ http://blog.fieldoo.com/2014/06/the-calculation-of-training-compensation-in-football-part-2/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willygers4life 1,031 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 I reckon that as are hoping to get a larger sum from the club by goING to the media, rather than have to go to a tribunal and risk getting less Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,789 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Daily Record, "Windass says AS is petty" Quote RANGERS new boy Josh Windass last nigh branded Accrington Stanley PETTY for refusing him permission to train at Murray Park. The Ibrox attacker is in Glasgow after agreeing a pre-contract agreement with the club in January along with ex-Stanley midfielder Matt Crooks. But Accrington owner Andy Holt has blocked the pair of them from training with Mark Warburton’s side before June 30 - until a compensation fee has been agreed. Rangers are due to pay the English League Two club under FIFA regulations because the players are under 23 and have made a cross-border switch. The Ibrox club claim they’re waiting for paperwork for Accrington to complete the deal but Holt says Rangers are at fault. It has left Windass and Crooks – who is currently injured – in limbo and the front-man has urged Holt to let them move on. Windass told Mailsport: “I just think it’s a bit petty. It’s frustrating for me because it’s not like Accrington won’t get paid – they’ll get their money. “It’s not harming Rangers or Accrington Stanley, it’s only harming myself and Crooksy. “We helped get Accrington get to where they got to in the league last season. Everything we’ve ever done has been for the good of that club. “So it’s just a bit petty from them. “Crooksy is injured so he’s not doing anything anyway. “But we went into Murray Park on Saturday morning, all the lads were training but obviously we weren’t. “There’s not a lot we can do about it.” Rangers are adamant they have done nothing wrong and are waiting on documents from Accrington which will conclude the transfer. A club spokesperson said: “Rangers have always been willing to pay a compensation fee as determined by FIFA regulations. “However, in order to confirm a figure Rangers needs Accrington Stanley to co-operate fully by providing some necessary detail. “So far they have failed to provide this.” But bitter Accrington chief Holt insists six months after Windass and Crooks signed the Bosman deals – they’re still waiting on Gers coughing up. He said: “Until the compensation package is agreed they are our players so they shouldn’t be allowed to train with Rangers. We have them contracted until June 30. “We’ve written to Rangers informing them of our position and have copied in the FA and SFA. “They’ve got two great players for nothing so the least they can do is pay up properly and stop playing games. “I believe they’re up in Glasgow. I have an email from Rangers requesting they train but I’m refusing permission until compensation is agreed.” In January when the players agreed on the move to Ibrox, Holt was raging because they’d lost two prized assets to a Scottish club for a minimal fee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 4 hours ago, Willber1974 said: The process for calculating the compensation for u23s isn't straight forward hence why Rangers need information from Accrington Stanley. Unfortunately for them they didn't rear these players, Huddersfield did. Crooks was only there 17 months and Windass three years. These training costs are only applicable until the age of 21 or once established as a first team player. (training complete) http://blog.fieldoo.com/2014/05/the-calculation-of-training-compensation-in-football-part-1/ http://blog.fieldoo.com/2014/06/the-calculation-of-training-compensation-in-football-part-2/ If clubs got paid for rearing players, sellik would be richer than Barcelona. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcheVinny 1,003 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Fuck Accrington. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40delboy40 248 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 ahhhh, Charlie Telfer moving on to the next level .How's that working out. I know its off topic, just saying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,598 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 “But we went into Murray Park on Saturday morning, all the lads were training but obviously we weren’t." Right you are Josh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misteral 2,932 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 That's them fucked for a pay day friendly next year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcoholic 1,348 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 22 hours ago, siddiqi_drinker said: If clubs got paid for rearing players, sellik would be richer than Barcelona. You mean rear ending them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,645 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Been settled now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,806 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Agreement reached, they're free to train Tweet from Raman from STV. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,359 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Been settled now. 12 minutes ago, the goal machine said: Agreement reached, they're free to train Tweet from Raman from STV. Good stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Falcoholic said: You mean rear ending them? Jeez don't get much past you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 What's the state of affairs with Crooks' injury? What's the injury and how long is he out for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,789 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 10 minutes ago, Inigo said: What's the state of affairs with Crooks' injury? What's the injury and how long is he out for? Said he was "on the road to recovery" last month on the 5th. It's a ankle injury, picked it up in March. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, RFCRobertson said: Said he was "on the road to recovery" last month on the 5th. It's a ankle injury, picked it up in March. I hope he can get a full pre-season in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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