Sweetheart 8,458 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 41 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: For sure! Balance of contract plus reputational damage coming up and fuck knows what else. The board know this, but need to buy time as we don't have the cash. To sack him without cash, means no gagging agreement and he can sing like a canary, so they are trying on this tactic, stringing him along. Is he getting paid whilst on suspension? If not, his lawyers will have a field day along with the SMSM and his pals in English punditry, who will have a field day in any case. A dangerous road indeed, but it is symptomatic of a business that is cash strapped. If someone is not fitting in and has no part in the future, you bag him, end of. This board must have paid more in courts cases than it has players since they took over, maybe that's why there is a lack of cash. They need to be very careful though that these courts cases don't take the club over the edge. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 54 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: I agree but Imo it's been handled wrong from day one. Club should have disciplined the leak that ran to the papers and Halliday for his part in the bust up. Give it a fuckin rest , the only thing anyone knows here is that Barton was the one in the wrong , thats why he was suspended but the usual suspects on here keep battering Haliday every chance they get. The prick should never have been signed , most of the smart ones on here said it from day one and were spot on. This is now an embarrassing circus created by a brain dead bunch of clowns who run the club. He won't ever play for us again , get used to it........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, sassaaaa said: Give it a fuckin rest , the only thing anyone knows here is that Barton was the one in the wrong , thats why he was suspended but the usual suspects on here keep battering Haliday every chance they get. The prick should never have been signed , most of the smart ones on here said it from day one and were spot on. This is now an embarrassing circus created by a brain dead bunch of clowns who run the club. He won't ever play for us again , get used to it........... I like Halliday but he should have been disciplined for his part also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just now, Sweetheart said: I like Halliday but he should have been disciplined for his part also. What exactly did he or anyone else do ? You don't know and as no one was punished other than the taig we can assume he's the problem. This useless board are making the club look like fools draging this nonsense on further. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears 794 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 35 minutes ago, kanjo said: Just me who really hopes he stays and plays to his best? Would be a bit sad to see him go but if he's deemed to do something wrong then there is no choice. If Joey is playing to his best, is he ensuring others are doing the same too? Superstar Joey and 10 unhappy teammates is not the answer. He wouldn't let Tav take free kicks where Tav is a specialist and Barton is not. I'd love it if he came back, sorted it out and became a wonderful servant of the club. I want that for all our players but is that realistic here? Not on the evidence so far. HG5, Ben10 and kanjo 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 If there are legal issues that need to be considered by both parties, then neither party should be saying anything simple as that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: I like Halliday but he should have been disciplined for his part also. What was his part, exactly? You seem to be the only person convinced he did something actually worth being disciplined for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, sassaaaa said: What exactly did he or anyone else do ? You don't know and as no one was punished other than the taig we can assume he's the problem. This useless board are making the club look like fools draging this nonsense on further. Problem I foresee is that if both parties aren't disciplined for the bust up, and a case is being built then both parties should have been dealt with the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just now, Sweetheart said: Problem I foresee is that if both parties aren't disciplined for the bust up, If a case is being built then both parties should have been dealt with the same. You just don't get it do you ? Read above again slowly............ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie1963 2,370 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: I like Halliday but he should have been disciplined for his part also. Does anyone actually know what happened markem 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, sassaaaa said: What exactly did he or anyone else do ? You don't know and as no one was punished other than the taig we can assume he's the problem. This useless board are making the club look like fools draging this nonsense on further. I wonder how many other posts there are in this whole thread blaming the board, the board will need to discuss any issues with the legal team and then possibly sit down with Barton and his representatives to find an amicable solution to the problem, if the board just decide to sack Barton with no concrete legal reason for doing so then they and club would end up getting dragged through the courts which could end up costing a lot more than any pay off might. Bad Robot and SeparateEntityMyArse 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just now, Dickie1963 said: Does anyone actually know what happened Nope but it never stops them coming on here telling everyone what happened. One cunts suspended , theres where the problem lies.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears 794 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: Problem I foresee is that if both parties aren't disciplined for the bust up, and a case is being built then both parties should have been dealt with the same. Some bust ups have two or more guilty parties, some only one. Hey, some may be accidental and have no one needing censured. Here, we mere supporters have no evidence to decide and in this we need to trust the club and those in charge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Warburton bought some real shite this season, he must have thought he was still managing in the fag and chipshop league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just now, sassaaaa said: You just don't get it do you ? Read above again slowly............ I get what your saying. He didn't get suspended for nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Poetry_In_Blue said: I wonder how many other posts there are in this whole thread blaming the board, the board will need to discuss any issues with the legal team and then possibly sit down with Barton and his representatives to find an amicable solution to the problem, if the board just decide to sack Barton with no concrete legal reason for doing so then they and club would end up getting dragged through the courts which could end up costing a lot more than any pay off might. and you think this all takes 4 weeks ? Its a joke and has been from day one. HG5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,337 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just now, Sweetheart said: Problem I foresee is that if both parties aren't disciplined for the bust up, If a case is being built then both parties should have been dealt with the same. It's not like a wee spat on the pitch where the ref gives both players a yellow. If Halliday warranted formal disciplinary measures taken against him I think the club are demonstrating they would take such measures. Why do you think differently - do you perceive preferential treatment? It's also possible he has been dealt with by way of a formal warning - we just don't know nor should we. The obvious scenario is that whatever went on warranted only one player to be suspended. Barton. Imo club now hasn't received full info on an aspect of the matter (likely re the betting) so has extended suspension re this. Exactly the correct decision and process to follow if so. Poetry_In_Blue and Bad Robot 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Dietspam said: WTF man, this forum some times. Wouldn't let me get past a quote. Anyway.... I don't think there is a way back now for Barton. We are freezing him out big time. It's shocking the way the club have handled this. It has King and Murray written all over it, throw in cash strapped and their recent tactics on getting rid of previous deals. This lot are fighting tooth and nail to survive and it shows, with a under achieving team and a high profile player they can't handle, they will need every dirty trick in the book and they know them all, they have brought it on themselves, well what goes round comes round, karma is a bitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, Poetry_In_Blue said: I wonder how many other posts there are in this whole thread blaming the board, the board will need to discuss any issues with the legal team and then possibly sit down with Barton and his representatives to find an amicable solution to the problem, if the board just decide to sack Barton with no concrete legal reason for doing so then they and club would end up getting dragged through the courts which could end up costing a lot more than any pay off might. The Board got Paul Murray to look over the Merchandise contract we may ask the Janny to have a wee swatch at Barton's contract, see if theres a u bend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: Problem I foresee is that if both parties aren't disciplined for the bust up, and a case is being built then both parties should have been dealt with the same. Problem I see is that there is no evidence that Halliday actually did anything wrong and by what little we know Barton was the aggressor in the whole incident(s) if that is the case why should Halliday or any other player apart from Barton be punished. Also it wasn't necessary the incident with Halliday which might have led to the suspension but Barton's attitude towards the manager afterwards, him going to the press etc which has caused the added difficulties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, sassaaaa said: and you think this all takes 4 weeks ? Its a joke and has been from day one. It can take a lot longer than 4 weeks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears 794 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Sweetheart said: I get what your saying. He didn't get suspended for nothing. Tbh I wouldn't take Barton's version of emotive events to be a particularly objective account. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Smile said: The Board got Paul Murray to look over the Merchandise contract we may ask the Janny to have a wee swatch at Barton's contract, see if their a u bend. Sometimes you really should not bother posting anything at all in threads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just now, Poetry_In_Blue said: It can take a lot longer than 4 weeks. It should take a few days max but we are dealing with our board. Theres no chance he will ever wear our strip again , it should have been done and dusted by now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, Smile said: The Board got Paul Murray to look over the Merchandise contract we may ask the Janny to have a wee swatch at Barton's contract, see if their a u bend. The leak? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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