How long should Mr Warburton get?

[johanhentze 14,154]

6 hours ago, Willis said:

Hate to say it.  But if we lose Sunday he needs to go imo

Madness. 

[jackrfc95 4,255]

This guy got a team from the middle of League 1 to the championship playoffs on a fairly small budget (compared to the rest of the teams).

He then came here built a whole new team in a few weeks which comfortably won the championship playing an attractive style of football which we haven't seen at Rangers in years.

Yes our first season back has in the top league has been disappointing so far, but even so we still only sit 3 points behind second place and are in the semi final of a cup.

I'd like to know who people want in to replace him? The absolute minimum he should get is this season. MW is trying to build something, let him get on with it and stop these ridiculous threads.

[Gooseman 889]

Can we please stop this talk? It's unnecessary and to be quite frank immature.  He's the manager,  he deserves our support and respect.  Saying that he should be sacked if we lose on Sunday shows neither respect or support. 

[Jack The Flipper 5,936]

8 hours ago, JCDBigBear said:

I like MW as a person but I have serious concerns about his intransigence to changing tactics.  His strict adherence to 433 has been detrimental to our performances this season.

Knock it off with the fancy words mate, tell it like it is - it's gone tits up.

[Copland bear 7,966]

8 hours ago, ChrisMcb said:

This isn't another post bashing our manager because in my opinion  he should get as long as he wants. He has transformed us after picking up the mess ally left.  But seen a lot of posts in the past few weeks where people are saying he should go

After we pump you on Sunday, (as you do know your lot have only beaten us twice at hampdump since 1989) the only thing the manager should be given is a decent budget.

Now  away and look at some kiddy porn , you unwashed , yellow teeth prick. 

[Copland bear 7,966]

16 minutes ago, jackrfc95 said:

This guy got a team from the middle of League 1 to the championship playoffs on a fairly small budget (compared to the rest of the teams).

He then came here built a whole new team in a few weeks which comfortably won the championship playing an attractive style of football which we haven't seen at Rangers in years.

Yes our first season back has in the top league has been disappointing so far, but even so we still only sit 3 points behind second place and are in the semi final of a cup.

I'd like to know who people want in to replace him? The absolute minimum he should get is this season. MW is trying to build something, let him get on with it and stop these ridiculous threads.

Well said, fucking loyalty show the manager some respect.  .

Warbs , needs to the end of the season and a serious budget to buy players then judge him next season.

At the moment certain players in his squad are not Rangers class but give him time as I don't know anyone who could have done a better job.

Sack Warbs ? Who for Mcleish ?   Even he would demand a decent budget and I would rather give Warbs the money and chance. 

 

[Virtuoso 27,180]

Maximum points between now and the end of the year is the only acceptable solution.

It's evident that he's way out of his depth and doesn't seem to have any plans as to how to turn things around. The result the other night doesn't change that and we've dropped a shit load of points to teams we should be beating comfortably. That doesn't look like changing anytime soon.

I'll be honest, I wouldn't care if he went now - the only issue being, who would replace him? Any decent manager who's available will know that they'll have seriously limited funds to work with in January / there is no war chest for us to launch any meaningful bid for the title (if there was then it should have been used pre-season as opposed to bargain basement signings and over the hill freebies).

Just to add, the players are at fault here as well but the shit lands at his feet. He's the one held accountable.

[Virtuoso 27,180]

1 hour ago, dan_ger said:

Until the end of next season at the very least. 

Short term thinking doesn't work. The sooner we learn that the better. 

Not a fucking chance. We're going backwards as it is.

[Virtuoso 27,180]

4 minutes ago, Copland bear said:

Well said, fucking loyalty show the manager some respect.  .

Warbs , needs to the end of the season and a serious budget to buy players then judge him next season.

At the moment certain players in his squad are not Rangers class but give him time as I don't know anyone who could have done a better job.

Sack Warbs ? Who for Mcleish ?   Even he would demand a decent budget and I would rather give Warbs the money and chance. 

 

...and that is coming from where exactly? Unless we have a new board in place by then 

If there was any funds available, then it was this year on the back of ST sales. ST sales won't be anywhere near as high next season unless we pull off some miraculous recovery and finish 2nd (or 1st..No Surrender  )

Whilst our manager roots about for bargain signings (which don't seem to be the bargains they're made out to be), the Bheasts have a few spare million to spend without touching their ST sales etc. They'll strengthen further whilst we.....

This board is ultimately to blame for where we are just now, but Warburton is the one who chose the team and is responsible for what we see on a weekly basis and on that basis, at present he doesn't deserve another season.

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

Seems the question has attracted the extremes from both camps in this thread. 

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

I've said before he should get the season. If he can't finish in the top 3 for a euro place then he has to go and the board have to shove their ego's up their arse and find a buyer for the club that can take us forward. 

[Virtuoso 27,180]

3 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said:

Seems the question has attracted the extremes from both camps in this thread. 

As I said, I don't solely blame him for our current predicament - but as manager, it lands on him. 

1 minute ago, Courtyard Bear said:

I've said before he should get the season. If he can't finish in the top 3 for a euro place then he has to go and the board have to shove their ego's up their arse and find a buyer for the club that can take us forward. 

Maybe a certain fans group will organise another 'spivs oot' campaign and shoehorn in the next lot (depending on what personal promises are made). Being totally independent from the club, then it shouldn't cause any difficulties or conflict of interests  

[one55 1,510]

as soon as winning the league is impossible mathematically...next season. 

i think it's a bit unfair to sack him this season since it's his first shot at it. however if he can't do it next season then he should be replaced. 

[Bears 794]

Only get rid of your manager if you can get a better one. That includes what the current manager is in terms of squad management and building and confidence on the park as well as success.

We had a great start to last season, due mainly to the enthusiasm of a young squad in following the manager's demands and working as a team.

We've had a poor/mixed start to this season for several reasons: being unable to get the CBs that were wanted, Kranjcar being less than match ready, Barton being allowed too important a role in the team (taking free kicks instead of Tav, slowing down play, etc.), playing 2 DMs to shoehorn certain players in, and several injuries (Waggy, Windass, Rossiter, Crooks, Holt). Some of these were unlucky, some the manager's fault in allowing them to happen.

MW needs to show that he has learned from certain mistakes, for the sake of squad confidence as well as that of the fans.

[Prso's headband 35,569]

There will be a review at the end of the season but if by next Xmas we aren't top or about 2-3 points off the top then he'll go. 

That's how much time he should be given and that's how much time I think he will be given. If were sitting 4th or 5th next November/December 10 points behind again he'll go

[Davy Vandenbroucke 26,202]

50 minutes ago, Jack The Flipper said:

Knock it off with the fancy words mate, tell it like it is - it's gone tits up.

I don't sweat because I use Lynx Africa.

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

21 minutes ago, Virtuoso said:

As I said, I don't solely blame him for our current predicament - but as manager, it lands on him. 

Maybe a certain fans group will organise another 'spivs oot' campaign and shoehorn in the next lot (depending on what personal promises are made). Being totally independent from the club, then it shouldn't cause any difficulties or conflict of interests  

Your a cynical man so you are, don't you know they did all that just for the good of the club so they did. They didn't want the limelight it was just thrust upon them. ?

[cushynumber 25,178]

7 hours ago, Willis said:

Hate to say it.  But if we lose Sunday he needs to go imo

 

[He's blue he's white 717]

He needs the full season, judge him then. 

Fans calling for his head after 4 mnths back in the top flight is fucking disgraceful 

[NixonRFC 1,347]

Thing is, as realistic or as unrealistic as it is, us and the tims have lived the motto '2nd is nothing'...given where we've came from last season 2nd would be tolerable this year but anything less than top spot next season and fans will start demanding change, more so if they're on 7IAR at the end of next Season, we'll start getting tetchy, rightly or wrongly.

[cushynumber 25,178]

Theres is no way we will win the league this year. I wouldnt be happy to finish behind celtic ever but we have simply too much catching up to do in terms of quality in the squad - remember for all celtic were shite last season they still ran out comfortable winners in the league. The best we can look for is 2nd because Celtic have simply bought well in the summer and brenda has gave them a bit of a boost. So unless we implode this season, I am prepared to give him next season - but that is when we MUST be challenging for the title no excuses. 

However has another poster has said - this fixation with 4-3-3 is starting to annoy me because we are asking a lot of our fairly mediocre squad to play in this manner and any team with a decent attack will score against us as we are too wide and not compact enough and cant defend. If he isn't prepared to change it in some games where it simply isn't appropriate then we wont win it next year and MW's own inflexibility may be his undoing.

That all being said - another 5-1 humping on Sunday will not be tolerated and if MW picks players who have not been performing in the same rigid 4-3-3 system and we take another tanking, then serious questions need asked as to what the fuck he is doing.

[KWBear 1,640]

7 hours ago, Willis said:

Hate to say it.  But if we lose Sunday he needs to go imo

I can see this side of the argument, but can also see the other. 

IMO he's way out of his depth from a tactical perspective, and for whatever reason he insists on picking certain players who are out of form, or simply not good enough. His approach to the transfer market has been absolutely abysmal, only focusing on one market: England, whilst conceding that the very same market is over inflated and difficult to operate in. Odd. His glaring deficiencies regarding defensive organisation and his lack of willingness to make tactical changes during games is fucking mind boggling - always the good ol' switch up like for like at 60 minutes. Brain damage. 

That said, he is committed, has an admirable approach to attacking football (although we have horrendous difficulty scoring goals), he's great with the press, has created good squad harmony up until the barton fiasco, and is exactly the type of model professional that should be in charge of Rangers. 

Biggest question is though if he goes who comes in? previous poster mentioned billy davies - which is a likely candidate. add in the usual shit suspects like mcleish etc and it makes for grim reading. 

if we get fucking pumped heavily on sunday then IMO he's on thin ice. 

[KWBear 1,640]

6 minutes ago, cushynumber said:

Theres is no way we will win the league this year. I wouldnt be happy to finish behind celtic ever but we have simply too much catching up to do in terms of quality in the squad - remember for all celtic were shite last season they still ran out comfortable winners in the league. The best we can look for is 2nd because Celtic have simply bought well in the summer and brenda has gave them a bit of a boost. So unless we implode this season, I am prepared to give him next season - but that is when we MUST be challenging for the title no excuses. 

However has another poster has said - this fixation with 4-4-3 is starting to annoy me because we are asking a lot of our fairly mediocre squad to play in this manner and any team with a decent attack will score against us as we are too wide and not compact enough and cant defend. If he isn't prepared to change it in some games where it simply isn't appropriate then we wont win it next year and MW's own inflexibility may be his undoing.

That all being said - another 5-1 humping on Sunday will not be tolerated and if MW picks players who have not been performing in the same rigid 4-4-3 system and we take another tanking, then serious questions need asked as to what the fuck he is doing.

like and agree with all of this

except for the bits in bold. 

[cushynumber 25,178]

1 minute ago, KWBear said:

like and agree with all of this

except for the bits in bold. 

ah

[cushynumber 25,178]

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