I'm going to ask it

[PRW. 5,631]

3 minutes ago, Dickie said:

What has he done to deserve more time?? We haven't just suddenly become shite,we have been shite for nearly a year now. The whole setup tonight was a shambles and he is out of his depth,we aren't brentford(but it's early yet) and that whole play it out from the back is becoming laughable. 

What has he done? Is that a serious question.

Have a look back at the Motherwell playoff game, that was only 18 months ago. We were pumped 6-1 on aggregate by fucking Motherwell. The man inherited an absolute mess of a team, one of the worst ever. We strolled the league under him, beat a tarrier team that cost around 12m (compared to him spending about 800k) and got to the Scottish Cup Final. Fair dos since then things haven't been very good, but what has he done is a daft question.

[thebooler 4,509]

34 minutes ago, kanjo said:

There is far too much at steak to not consider our options.  That tonight showed me that we will not not be finishing in the European spots.  That would set us back yet another year which we simply cannot afford to do given we're already one year behind.

Agree. Team needs BEEFED up. ?

[PRW. 5,631]

3 minutes ago, thebooler said:

McInnes turned the job down before Warburton was offered it.

Worrying that he was even offered it.

[Bertent 2,081]

so many delusional and in denial. No surprise to see the usual contrary maries though, justlove the attention. 

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3 minutes ago, plumbGER said:

They haven't, but who knows if they are the guys he really wanted?

I like Mark Warburton, he is a good decent gentleman, but i think he lacks the tactical nous required to manage us.

He is struggling with the demands as are the players.

Spot on. He conducts himself with class and dignity and respects our traditions which is why I want him to be such a success, unfortunately as you've said neither him or the players are up to the job.

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5 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

Give it Giggsy til end of the season.

Give it to Kenny till the end of the season and see how he does, he's got manager written all over him! can't be any worse than what we are currently being served up.

[jamess 3,429]

Someone needs to give Mark a Plan B for xmas.

[MikeyM 39]

Give him to the end of the season.  If things don't pick up bring in Sir Alex next season with Giggs as his assistant, after the ship has been steadied, hand the reigns over to Giggs. ???

 

 

[HG5 11,134]

53 minutes ago, BLUEDIGNITY said:

But we learned a lot tonight especially how to get thrown about like scud books without retaliating ! Fuckin spineless and shite, these diddy teams come to Ibrox now and EXPECT a result of some kind !

And 3 out of 5 have managed it!

[EMRFC 4,786]

Sam Allardyce. He'd get us keeping clean sheets and then we'd have 1 up top to score 20 goals a season, our very own Jermaine Defoe.

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1 hour ago, FSM said:

My comedic reply will be Billy Davies.

We might not be laughing, he is a realistic alternative given the signings from the English Championship, a league he is well used to and the free availability of him at the moment. I think MW will walk very soon, particularly after the shitstorm that the Barton situation is about to create.

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56 minutes ago, PRW. said:

Warnock is a short term manager. Are we really wanting to rush back to that?

Was it not just a couple of years ago we all bemoaned the chance missed in 2012 to revamp the club with a philosophy and style? 

Are we going to now rip up the work Warburton and his team have done right through the entire club and youth system after 1 and a half fucking seasons? Honestly we are the most impatient fans in the world and it'll bite us on the arse. Its a process, nobody is going to give us instant results and win us the league. Hiring and firing, changing style and philosophy every season is not going to help us.

Football clubs and the style they play in is very rarely down to one manager (man united being the obvious exception)  aberdeen in the early 80 were actually a product of first,  eddie turnbull, then billy mcneil and THEN ferguson. One steadies the ship, one builds the team and the latter gets the players  pulling in the right direction. Same with CHELSEA :gullit, ranieri and finishing with mourinho,  

BARCELONA: Guardiola, vilanova and now luis enrique.

 

warburton had a shite hand delt to him when he started and i cant thank him enough for bringing certain standards back (talking like a rangers manager etc, making it all about the club and its traditions)  but imo its time for him to step to the side and for the 2nd phase of the team to start. The consolidation of our status of being one of the 2 top teams in the country and then when we have got to that level of really challenging for the title you then need a manager who imposes a style of play on the team and wins titles but does it in style. 

It needs to be evolution not revolution in my mind

[JackAlex93 11,332]

I think its way too soon yet for any talk of Warburton leaving.

Results have been poor yes but I'd give him till the end of the season and another transfer window (January)

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1 hour ago, PRW. said:

What has he done? Is that a serious question.

Have a look back at the Motherwell playoff game, that was only 18 months ago. We were pumped 6-1 on aggregate by fucking Motherwell. The man inherited an absolute mess of a team, one of the worst ever. We strolled the league under him, beat a tarrier team that cost around 12m (compared to him spending about 800k) and got to the Scottish Cup Final. Fair dos since then things haven't been very good, but what has he done is a daft question.

No good inheriting a mess, sorting it out, then creating another one.

Like it or not, that's where we find ourselves.

[KingKirk 25,656]

Many know already am a massive fan of mcinnes and am convinced he will be our next manager... He was high up the list before warbs got the job

[WGOH 2,344]

No sure if this has been posted (haven't trolled through this thread) or seen it anywhere else. Didn't know if it warranted its own thread as it's only the Sun, but if this were true, would people be happy?

I would be, we wouldn't need to pay him off and would get compensation into the bargain. I don't want to believe it to much as the sun ran with these kind of stories last year and fuck all came of it, but very interesting anyway.

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I don't like Wigan so aye

[KingKirk 25,656]

1 minute ago, WGOH said:

No sure if this has been posted (haven't trolled through this thread) or seen it anywhere else. Didn't know if it warranted its own thread as it's only the Sun, but if this were true, would people be happy?

I would be, we wouldn't need to pay him off and would get compensation into the bargain. I don't want to believe it to much as the sun ran with these kind of stories last year and fuck all came of it, but very interesting anyway.

I dont think we'd be hard to deal with tbh

[WGOH 2,344]

Just now, KingKirk said:

I dont think we'd be hard to deal with tbh

No sure how compensation works with managers, don't know if they buy out a contract or whatever, but I think we could get a good deal out it, if true ofc 

[KingKirk 25,656]

Nothing much to it tbh

 

RANGERS boss Mark Warburton has emerged as a top contender for the Wigan Athletic job.

Latics supremo David Sharpe, who sacked Gary Caldwell on Tuesday, is a fan of the Ibrox manager.

And Warburton — whose side drew 1-1 with St Johnstone last night — has been added to a shortlist that includes out-of-work Karl Robinson.

Wigan have been on Warbs’ trail for a couple of years, trying to get him as director of football when Uwe Rosler was in charge.

Sharpe dealt with Warburton and got on well with him when he took Martyn Waghorn, James Tavernier and Rob Kiernan to Rangers last season.

Sharpe has admitted to close friends that he wants to speak to a mystery candidate who is “currently in a job” before finalising his decision on a new boss.

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2 hours ago, PRW. said:

What has he done? Is that a serious question.

Have a look back at the Motherwell playoff game, that was only 18 months ago. We were pumped 6-1 on aggregate by fucking Motherwell. The man inherited an absolute mess of a team, one of the worst ever. We strolled the league under him, beat a tarrier team that cost around 12m (compared to him spending about 800k) and got to the Scottish Cup Final. Fair dos since then things haven't been very good, but what has he done is a daft question.

 

 

The team was knackered with too many games at the one time McCall did his best,with what he was left, that's still no excuse for Warburton,  Warburtons brought in about twenty players since then and most will be let go by any decent manager.

This is Warburtons team now so he can be judged on it without harking back the way for some glimmer of hope.

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5 minutes ago, KingKirk said:

Nothing much to it tbh

 

RANGERS boss Mark Warburton has emerged as a top contender for the Wigan Athletic job.

Latics supremo David Sharpe, who sacked Gary Caldwell on Tuesday, is a fan of the Ibrox manager.

And Warburton — whose side drew 1-1 with St Johnstone last night — has been added to a shortlist that includes out-of-work Karl Robinson.

Wigan have been on Warbs’ trail for a couple of years, trying to get him as director of football when Uwe Rosler was in charge.

Sharpe dealt with Warburton and got on well with him when he took Martyn Waghorn, James Tavernier and Rob Kiernan to Rangers last season.

Sharpe has admitted to close friends that he wants to speak to a mystery candidate who is “currently in a job” before finalising his decision on a new boss.

 

No chance he will get this. But i hope he does will save the pay off.

[bettertogether 381]

1.7 million they can have him, so we can move and get who the fuck what's his name again. 

[RangersMedia 35,961]

I think Warburtons skills are more suited to being a Sporting Director/Director of Football, rather than a Head Coach/Manager. 

I like what he is trying to do, I like his modern approach, I'm confident that he'd do us a turn given time and his own way to build the clubs coaching/scouting infrastructure. He is, IMO, doing a lot of things right.

However...... Having a good approach & doing things right doesn't always make somebody a good manager. Can he motivate and breed a winning mentality? Does he have the experience? Does he have the mentality? Does he have tactical nouse? He wasn't a player - can he gain respect of his peers having not really played the game?

If we did get rid of Warburton, I really would hate to see us tear up any of the good work that has been done behind the scenes and start again with a Walter Smith type manager - a manager who would get results but is archaic in approach and maybe does not really get the bigger, long term picture. If we do get rid of him I'd like to see us get somebody who shares Warburtons ethos, but maybe a bit more experienced and proven in the game.

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12 minutes ago, Badger said:

I think Warburtons skills are more suited to being a Sporting Director/Director of Football, rather than a Head Coach/Manager. 

I like what he is trying to do, I like his modern approach, I'm confident that he'd do us a turn given time and his own way to build the clubs coaching/scouting infrastructure. He is doing a lot right.

However doing things right doesn't make somebody a good football manager. Can he motivate and breed a winning mentality? Does he have the experience? Does he have the mentality? Does he have tactical nouse? He wasn't a player - can he gain respect of his peers having not really played the game?

If we did get rid of Warburton, I really would hate to see us tear up any of the good work that has been done behind the scenes and start again with a Walter Smith type manager - a manager who would get results but is archaic in approach and maybe does not really get the bigger, long term picture. If we do get rid of him I'd like to see us get somebody who shares Warburtons ethos, but maybe a bit more experienced and proven in the game.

Great post mate but your forgetting his /our assistant is Sir David Weir who has done all the things that you say MW never done so !!!