Turnberry18 3,204 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, simplythebest said: All very well hoping different things are getting said behind closed doors but the media is the way fans get communicated to and we deserve some respect A classic case of 2 + 2 = 5. So saying one thing to the media, taking the heat out of the situation etc equates to not giving fans some respect. Right you are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,508 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Turnberry18 said: Or you might see that this is a process, and you may have expected these problems along the road, Is that possible? If I'm sent out too repair a leak , a cpl of days later it leaks again my boss would say ffs get back there and sort that , a cpl of days later it goes again I would be warned I better get it right this time , it goes again = I would be out on my ear , it's also quite ironic that today is groundhog day listening to his excuses Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piperpete 3,186 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, The Godfather said: Wit? Fuck off seriously. It's us who need a holiday watchingimthe shite hin serves up, aye give him a jolly with his familyirafter subjecting us to shite! Â Looks like we cant aford to pay him off so he would need to chuck It mate, as long as we are challenging and IN 2nd he wont be going anywhere, he probably will need put out his missery at sometime but cant see IT being soon. His player need to have a hard look at themselves as no matter what way Warburton set us up giving the ball away not winning the third ball never mind the 1st I Or 2nd IS basic footballing skill, IF they have down tools to get rid of their boss then they need fined by the club fot not trying, I Coukdnt believe our attitude IN that 2nd half and IF the players are revolting then they need to do IT IN public and stop cheating us the fans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Just now, ger4life_1872 said: If I'm sent out too repair a leak , a cpl of days later it leaks again my boss would say ffs get back there and sort that , a cpl of days later it goes again I would be warned I better get it right this time , it goes again = I would be out on my ear , it's also quite ironic that today is groundhog day listening to his excuses I'm not a plumber, but in my understanding that is not how I would read that process. What if the cause of the leak was a more fundamental problem in the construction process, or a more inherent underlying problem that required a whole new refitting? I'd suggest your boss perhaps being unduly hasty, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,718 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 16 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: I thought about this last night,imagine Hibs and their cousins were in this league. Another 6 points dropped away from home. Or Falkirk! ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,647 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 26 minutes ago, The Godfather said: Like he knows the defence are has been a problem for 18 months Guy might know it but he does nothing to address it. Such decisions will cost him his job...In the end Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,456 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 14 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: You honestly think he really thinks it is not a problem? Did you think he said to the players it wasn't problem, do you think he finished the match and went home oblivious of what this defeat meant?  Saying these things to the media is one thing, I trust that he knows this team has problems. He has players not good enough, if we know this then maybe we may assume that he knows it; but what does he do about that? Just let's, for talking sake, you have been given the options in the last Window, with little money etc, what would you have done; who would you have recruited, bearing in mind those players would have to be BETTER than what we have right now? Yes I do actually. I do believe he doesn't believe it is a problem. He came from mediocrity in football and IMO has instilled that into this team of players. I think when the match finished he would have said things like- "it happens" "don't worry about it we'll get it right". I believe not one player walked out that dressing room thinking they'd let the club down. I bet they walked out without having got an absolute bollocking and that falls at the managers door. He's knew the teams problems for the best part of two years. Most of the players are good players. He's instilled a mentality of mediocrity which makes them not care. I would have sold Kiernan, Tav, Halliday and Holt. I would have signed Michael Mancienne. See what I did there? Already I've branched out from London/Liverpool/Watford etc etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Just now, Prso's headband said: Yes I do actually. I do believe he doesn't believe it is a problem. He came from mediocrity in football and IMO has instilled that into this team of players. I think when the match finished he would have said things like- "it happens" "don't worry about it we'll get it right". I believe not one player walked out that dressing room thinking they'd let the club down. I bet they walked out without having got an absolute bollocking and that falls at the managers door. He's knew the teams problems for the best part of two years. Most of the players are good players. He's instilled a mentality of mediocrity which makes them not care. I would have sold Kiernan, Tav, Halliday and Holt. I would have signed Michael Mancienne. See what I did there? Already I've branched out from London/Liverpool/Watford etc etc. I'm going to stop right there and not read any further on the rest of what you have written here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,517 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 36 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: When asked about not winning any big away game "I don't see it as a big problem". Someone needs to send him packing Haven't watched it but if he has said that he needs to be gone pronto Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,508 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Turnberry18 said: I'm not a plumber, but in my understanding that is not how I would read that process. What if the cause of the leak was a more fundamental problem in the construction process, or a more inherent underlying problem that required a whole new refitting? I'd suggest your boss perhaps being unduly hasty, Ha ha you would be great too work for Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,456 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Just now, Turnberry18 said: I'm going to stop right there and not read any further on the rest of what you have written here. In other words I can't argue with any of what you have said. What I've said is a lot closer to the truth than what you believe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerKlos 161 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 For once he actually got asked decent questions instead of the same repetitive shite "is there a mental issue at these grounds?"   I don't understand that question one iota. "do you need to be more pragmatic away from home?" -- goes onto a rant about how we gave away a free kick that wasn't a free kick. The answer to this question is simple. "yes". We can't go away from home to grounds like that and play with 2 at the back. Enough of this shite "it's all about us, we play our game, don't worry about the other team". You gameplan for who you're playing against. Hearts pressed us, still we pissed about with it at the back and we looked constantly flustered. When teams press they're leaving space in behind that should be exploited by going deep.  I still want him to succeed, but his stubbornness will be his undoing at Rangers eventually imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Just now, Prso's headband said: In other words I can't argue with any of what you have said. What I've said is a lot closer to the truth than what you believe. You're suggesting that the manager of Rangers doesn't think it's a problem to lose 4-1. That is, I presume, the basis of your whole point. What's there to argue with? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: A classic case of 2 + 2 = 5. So saying one thing to the media, taking the heat out of the situation etc equates to not giving fans some respect. Right you are. No-one expects him to call the players useless bastards in public but comments like we've seen playing it down so much are disrespectful in my opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Just now, simplythebest said: No-one expects him to call the players useless bastards in public but comments like we've seen playing it down so much are disrespectful in my opinion Fair enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,647 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Personally I think his idea of having a small squad and good harmony is coming back to bite him Senderos, Wilson Kiernan  all aint good enough but hes bound by his own rules.. He can't replace one unless someone goes because he doesn't like bloated squads  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,202 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Instead of spouting off at press conferences, Warburton should have been working the arse out of these imposters in training. Can you imagine what Jock Wallace would have done with this load of shite after a performance like last night Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,456 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Turnberry18 said: You're suggesting that the manager of Rangers doesn't think it's a problem to lose 4-1. That is, I presume, the basis of your whole point. What's there to argue with? No I believe the manager of Rangers doesn't have a problem with getting beat or dropping points in any game. This is after he said "I don't think it's a problem". This is after he believed that getting beat 5-1 was a hysterical reaction, to the point where he said "no-one has died". This is after every single big away game when he comes out with the bullshit soundbites of "were still second" "we make mistakes". Yet the only reason were sitting second is because we've played a game more than the sheep. The way he talks smacks of desperation and salesman like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,647 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, DerKlos said: For once he actually got asked decent questions instead of the same repetitive shite "is there a mental issue at these grounds?"   I don't understand that question one iota. "do you need to be more pragmatic away from home?" -- goes onto a rant about how we gave away a free kick that wasn't a free kick. The answer to this question is simple. "yes". We can't go away from home to grounds like that and play with 2 at the back. Enough of this shite "it's all about us, we play our game, don't worry about the other team". You gameplan for who you're playing against. Hearts pressed us, still we pissed about with it at the back and we looked constantly flustered. When teams press they're leaving space in behind that should be exploited by going deep.  I still want him to succeed, but his stubbornness will be his undoing at Rangers eventually imo. IMO any Rangers team should be capable of playing how we play in scotland and the very fact they struggle says more about the ability of the players mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Prso's headband said: No I believe the manager of Rangers doesn't have a problem with getting beat or dropping points in any game. This is after he said "I don't think it's a problem". This is after he believed that getting beat 5-1 was a hysterical reaction, to the point where he said "no-one has died". This is after every single big away game when he comes out with the bullshit soundbites of "were still second" "we make mistakes". Yet the only reason were sitting second is because we've played a game more than the sheep. The way he talks smacks of desperation and salesman like. That is not what he said. Both what did he say was "not a problem", and in what context did he say that it was "not a problem"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,456 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: That is not what he said. Both what did he say was "not a problem", and in what context did he say that it was "not a problem"?  The journo rhymes off the big games we've failed to win and asks if there is a problem, MW says "there isn't a problem with big games". Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Hammer of Der Gods 421 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 "A bad day at the office"," we will learn from it", "we must keep improving", "we have spoken to the group" I'm sick to the back teeth hearing this utter fucking drivel, enough is enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim beam 2,188 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Usual sort of stuff from him and to say that our away form against the "bigger" teams is not a problem as we are still second is totally deluded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerKlos 161 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, KingKirk said: IMO any Rangers team should be capable of playing how we play in scotland and the very fact they struggle says more about the ability of the players mate Well aye, they're shite, but they're his shite. And you need to play with the hand you've got.  Adapt to the opposition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Prso's headband said:  The journo rhymes off the big games we've failed to win and asks if there is a problem, MW says "there isn't a problem with big games". Lol Which is a slight variation on your original quote, but nonetheless still not used accurately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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