plumbGER 24,518 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Homosexual undertones in that post, didn't think you swung that way Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,590 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 24 minutes ago, plumbGER said: Homosexual undertones in that post, didn't think you swung that way Don't fight it big boy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 13 minutes ago, Drunk and disorderly. said: Don't fight it big boy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 On 14/10/2017 at 17:21, Redwhiteandblue said: Just as we're starting to look good, you want to change manager? Get the fishing rod away and get this thread deleted. ? one game and we get this pish....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parlaneloyal 353 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 hour ago, gazza27 said: How do you work that one out? The wages we pay should guarantee second anyway We pay more than the sheep,Hivs and St Johnstone added together I'm certain Mcinnes would get us second and close the gap with the taigs but that's it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 21 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said: ? one game and we get this pish....... To be fair we done ok in the previous game aswell. The jury is still out with Pedro and it is going to take a lot to convince people after a few shambolic results but as i said he has had 1 transfer window to fix the absolute mess Warburton left behind, there are signs there that he has made good decisions with his recruitment although performances haven't been great so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 21 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said: ? one game and we get this pish....... What pish? This is clearly a fishing thread or someone who has said something scared of being proven wrong. If this was straight after the Europa league game, then I would understand it. But not after 2 games where we have scored 4 & 3 goals with only a single goal conceded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, Redwhiteandblue said: What pish? This is clearly a fishing thread or someone who has said something scared of being proven wrong. If this was straight after the Europa league game, then I would understand it. But not after 2 games where we have scored 4 & 3 goals with only a single goal conceded. ? ? ? ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,115 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 41 minutes ago, Parlaneloyal said: The wages we pay should guarantee second anyway We pay more than the sheep,Hivs and St Johnstone added together I'm certain Mcinnes would get us second and close the gap with the taigs but that's it The wages thing is fair to an extent and we should expect better but I've said before there a Rangers factor to be added into the mix. Players at any club that come to Rangers will earn 2, 3, 4 times what they're on at their provincial club. Most will be on 1 to 2k pw tops. At us, 5, 6, 7 K. Its all about size of club, expectations, demand, scrutiny, club profile etc. I firmly believe MOH, Jack, Templeton, Black all benefitted this way. Kyle ffs got offered 7 when he expected a grand and hoped for 2. Which in turn means that if we signed Aberdeens full first team squad they'd likely cost us 2 to 4 times as much as they cost the sheep. Not 2 - 4 times better, just more expensive. So when we look at us paying 8 million p.a. compared to the sheep 3 million annual salary the Rangers effect needs built in that wages alone aren't guaranteeing better players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 3 hours ago, The Beast said: I think he's a taig and it's only a matter of time before he's outed. Give them enough rope..... The guy who calls himself 'The Beast' accuses me of being an earl ??? fuckin brilliant are you aware of either the current child abuse enquiry within Scottish football? Or have you heard of Jim Torbett?? Priceless ???? if your avatar gives you enough rope .....................??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parlaneloyal 353 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: It doesn't however you compare both squads and ours is far superior, in fact it was also superior last year yet they finished above us. How many Aberdeen players would get in our 11? One at a push IMO. The keeper Shinnie and McLean maybe but that's it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,115 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: It doesn't however you compare both squads and ours is far superior, in fact it was also superior last year yet they finished above us. How many Aberdeen players would get in our 11? One at a push IMO. Well factually their squad was less expensive but finished higher, so you could argue better. As a squad/team not individual players. My point is that lets say we decided to buy their whole team as a quick fix as our summer strategy (and ignoring transfer fees) we'd pay 2 to 4 times what the sheep did to put the same team on the park. Which then makes you realise for us we would want to go elsewhere for better value. It wouldn't make sense even though now we pay a lot more than the sheep do. So salary budgets aren't the defining factor, as much as they are significant and the teams that pay more do tend to finish higher. I'm not saying their player's would get into our team. I'm saying the cost of buying players and paying them is significantly higher at Rangers so in reality we can have equivalent players to other teams but a far heftier wage bill for similar calibre. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,115 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Which should be testament to the job McInnes did with them, taking inferior players to second place. Fully agree with what your saying, that's a huge problem which annoys me massively, we pay over the odds on players when we don't have time. As you said we offer 2-4 times what players are on at smaller clubs, when we shouldn't go over 1K more than their current weekly wage unless other clubs are in the mix offering higher wages. I doubt many(if any) SPFL players would knock us back for offering 1K extra a week. The second point is a whole separate, interesting conversation. The first one though I'd disagree to the extent that I'm saying they're not hugely inferior players, they're closer in calibre to ours than the wage gap suggests. He deserves credit but not due to the salary variance, more due to his recruitment, tactics and getting results. Similar situation to an extent as ours and the bheasts (though they know how to win consistently) in terms of wage gap. They pay 30 odd K per week but I'd say are beatable on the day. CL expectations you pay more but that doesn't mean their players are roughly 6 times the player of our 5k per week player or 15 times the 2k players at hibs or wherever. There is a salary factor there too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parlaneloyal 353 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 27 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Only Shinnie for me. McLean wouldn't make my bench, don't rate him at all personally. Aye bet you change your tune when he signs a precontract with us in January Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 54,115 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, Rangers_no1 said: Anybody else having site loading issues? Aye Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Rangers_no1 said: Which should be testament to the job McInnes did with them, taking inferior players to second place. Saying that Aberdeen's team of last season had "inferior players" is doing them a disservice. Warburton's squad was chalk full of talentless and gutless cowards. If you were to compare the two teams man for man I think Aberdeen had a number of players that were better than our guys. Barton, Rossiter, and Kranjcar should've dominated for us but they played anout 10 league games between them. This season Aberdeen have a good record which is surprising given they've just lost two key players in Jack and Hayes. I thought they would go downhill but they seems to be maintaining their results. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 We have had 2 false starts with building a squad with McCoist and Warburton. Caixinha has brought in about 10 players and tried to move on about the same. The squad appears to be starting to settle and the OP want to get rid of Caixinha . A new manager comes in and has his own ideas about who he wants in his squad and starts the cycle all over again. That sound just want Rangers need at this time. I think the OP is a taig and is at it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,246 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: The guy who calls himself 'The Beast' accuses me of being an earl ??? fuckin brilliant are you aware of either the current child abuse enquiry within Scottish football? Or have you heard of Jim Torbett?? Priceless ???? if your avatar gives you enough rope .....................??? Yep, I'm convinced you are and the truth will out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 13 minutes ago, The Beast said: Yep, I'm convinced you are and the truth will out. Want a bet, Beast? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1872Rangers1872 32 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 15 hours ago, Rangers_no1 said: McInnes for some strange reason is very underrated on here and his achievements with Aberdeen even more so. He took them from 8th to 3rd and three second placed finishes including one with us in the league. Won a league cup and ended the sheeps record away to us. This whole didn't challenge Deila's scum side is one of the worst downgrading points ever on this site. Not a valid reason and completely mental suggestion. Funnily enough same people say we cant compete with scum due to budgets yet McInnes was meant to on a nothing budget. Absolutely crazy! Highest win rate since Ferguson. Started the league win 7 wins and two draws only bad result at home to Kilmarnock. But hes clearly shit as they lost a cup game at Motherwell. Pedro clearly better, its not like hes seen 5 worse results in his time with us... i agree with some of what you have written the uefa cup exit was a f...king disaster. losing to the ginger poofs hibs and the scum was a nightmare start in the league pedro has had a better start in the league than our previous manager In the first ten games warburton lost 2 ,won 4 , 4 draws and got us to a league cup semi. win the next couple of games and we will be will be in the league cup final and 4 points ahead of last seasons 10 game total. mcinnes is a super manager there is no doubt about that,however he has been at aberdeen since march 2013.the board there have given him time to get things right and as you have pointed out only one of his three second place premier finishes has been achieved with us in the league. pedro should be allowed more time at Rangers To write him off and replace him now will only cause further disruption and upheaval at the club Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1872Rangers1872 32 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 17 hours ago, Rangers_no1 said: McInnes for some strange reason is very underrated on here and his achievements with Aberdeen even more so. He took them from 8th to 3rd and three second placed finishes including one with us in the league. Won a league cup and ended the sheeps record away to us. This whole didn't challenge Deila's scum side is one of the worst downgrading points ever on this site. Not a valid reason and completely mental suggestion. Funnily enough same people say we cant compete with scum due to budgets yet McInnes was meant to on a nothing budget. Absolutely crazy! Highest win rate since Ferguson. Started the league win 7 wins and two draws only bad result at home to Kilmarnock. But hes clearly shit as they lost a cup game at Motherwell. Pedro clearly better, its not like hes seen 5 worse results in his time with us... i agree with some of what you have written especially in regard to the start of this seasons campaign the uefa cup exit was a f...king disaster and losing to the ginger poofs hibs and the scum in the league was a nightmare however pedro has had a better start in the league than our previous manager. In the first ten games warburton lost 2 ,won 4 , 4 draws and got us to a league cup semi. i believe pedros results last season should be discounted as the team was full of warburtons dispirited and unmotivated duds and the season was long gone at that point anyway win the next couple of games in the current campaign and we will be will be in the league cup final and 4 points ahead of last seasons 10 game total. mcinnes is a super manager there is no doubt about that,however he has been at aberdeen since march 2013. the board there have given him time to get things right and as you have pointed out only one of his three second place premier finishes has been achieved with us in the league. pedro should be allowed more time at Rangers To write him off and replace him now will only cause further disruption and upheaval at the club Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,287 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 If he was a good manager he would have won the league during dila's last season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverInBlue 31 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 No thanks. I don't think he'd fancy it anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,779 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 26 minutes ago, ForeverInBlue said: No thanks. I don't think he'd fancy it anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 14,326 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 37 minutes ago, ForeverInBlue said: No thanks. I don't think he'd fancy it anyway And that shows how obvious the mans lack of ambition is. Shouldn't be anywhere near our club Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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