Millers Agent

[cushynumber 25,178]

1 hour ago, KingKirk said:

Dorrans Jack I appreciate that both are just in the door but I think the scottish lads will stand behind miller tbh. Has kenny ever been a issue for any manager during his times here I cant remember any tbh in fact every/manager when asked about Miller say he's a credit to the game and someone youngsters should look upto.

Yet according to the RO hes been a "naughty boy" IF thats the case why is our captain getting involved not only that he is full of support for KM.

Something is rotten mate and its time we as a club grow some nuts and deal with it 

Aye Miller. Time to deal with him.

[KingKirk 25,770]

Just now, cushynumber said:

Aye Miller. Time to deal with him.

However it ends bro I just want it  sorted sooner the better

[Redwhiteandblue 3,330]

6 hours ago, ForeverAndEver said:

Your theorys fry my nut.

 

You got a better one?

[cushynumber 25,178]

Right bed time. 

 

Nae posting nipples...

[K.A.I 36,183]

3 minutes ago, cushynumber said:

Aye Miller. Time to deal with him.

Serious question as I genuinely don't know, what's he actually meant to have done? has Pedro ever said he's the mole? the more I think about it, Pedro doesn't have a massive filter - he's spoke about club leaks a few times since he's been here surely if it was that he'd have just said it? he's not known for not speaking his mind - that's what makes me think it's something else - little power plays instead, for example.

[Redwhiteandblue 3,330]

6 hours ago, Gustav said:

Your mental theory about Foster doesn't come close to adding up, he was being called a traitor, rat etc. for weeks before the St Johnstone thing for leaking to the Record/Jackson.

Exactly. This is about the St Johnstone leak that Kenny's agent has dragged him into, even though it has nothing to do with him. 

[showtime69 514]

if folk are right and this is Miller/Wallace trying to force the board into getting shot of the manager then we truly are fucked.

think what you want of Pedro but he is the manager, hes the top man and if anybody is leaving then it should be them 2

what message does that send out to any new manager in the future? "btw we expect you to get results but ye also have to keep auld Kenny and eez pal Lee happy aswell or we will need to sack ye because they are the ones really calling the shots"

[The Specky Forum Organiser 65,650]

4 minutes ago, Redwhiteandblue said:

Exactly. This is about the St Johnstone leak that Kenny's agent has dragged him into, even though it has nothing to do with him. 

He hasn't dragged him into the St Johnstone leak as far as I can see

Nobody is blaming him for that

[K.A.I 36,183]

1 minute ago, showtime69 said:

if folk are right and this is Miller/Wallace trying to force the board into getting shot of the manager then we truly are fucked.

think what you want of Pedro but he is the manager, hes the top man and if anybody is leaving then it should be them 2

what message does that send out to any new manager in the future? "btw we expect you to get results but ye also have to keep auld Kenny and eez pal Lee happy aswell or we will need to sack ye because they are the ones really calling the shots"

Aye that's the problem. I agree.

I want Pedro gone (I'm not going to lie) butas you point out what message does that send out that two has-been's who are of no value to us this season and beyond take precedence over the manager of the club in the eyes of the board.

That's where there's no winners in this circus, no matter how it pans out. 

But the bigger point is that there's continued circuses with Pedro and his ways - Miller past few weeks, maybe Wallace now and before that it was O'Halloran, McKay, Halliday ... even slaughtering Windass in public after his best ever game for us Motherwell away first game of the season - there's a common denominator in all this and it's not any of those players, who, to the best of my knowledge have never pissed off any manager in their careers or been in any sort of controversay. 

[falkirkNS 6,298]

Danny Wilson anybody??....

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I don't think that Miller is the mole ( i might be wrong though ) the way i see it is Kennys opened his mouth once too much for Pedros liking so Pedros had to show him who the boss is Millers no liked it so Pedros dropped him.

Then you've got Kennys agent weighing in with the mole shite,i haven't seen anywhere Pedro saying it's Kenny.So it now looks like Millers off which to me is good news as he's been rubbish most of the season anyway.

Oh and Wallace should have been non-commital as i think he's backing Miller over Pedro there,not a good idea for him as he could be out the door as well.

[ForeverAndEver 71,912]

25 minutes ago, Redwhiteandblue said:

You got a better one?

Aye.

Foster isny a grass.

[Redwhiteandblue 3,330]

20 minutes ago, Gustav said:

He hasn't dragged him into the St Johnstone leak as far as I can see

Nobody is blaming him for that

Millers agent made that statement almost immediately after Pedro spoke of the the St Johnstone leak. 

Kenny's agent has played a blinder in doing so, just to get him his final move and signing on fee before he hangs up his boots. 

[Redwhiteandblue 3,330]

10 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said:

Aye.

Foster isny a grass.

Who told Pedro that St Johnstone knew his team and tactics before we last played them last season then? 

The only link we have at St Johnstone is Foster. 

 

So I ask you again, have you got a better theory?

[scottyc06 6,916]

Can't get past thinking this whole "players vs the manager" theories that people are dreaming up & saying that the board are going to have to choose between them is a lot of shite! 

Pretty sure the full team went straight to Pedro after Candeias goal against Hamilton! 

There may be an issue with Miller, and depending on how Pedro see's his comments, Wallace too! However I don't think it goes beyond that! 

Of course, we don't know the whole story but from what we do know all I can see is Miller leaving in Jan to another Scottish Premiership outfit, the likes of Killie!

Lee Wallace could possibly lose his captaincy as well, which in all honesty, we have been crying out for for a long time! Obvious choice would be Dorrans or Alves (Dorrans for me as I dunno how long Alves has left in him) 

[K.A.I 36,183]

1 minute ago, scottyc06 said:

Can't get past thinking this whole "players vs the manager" theories that people are dreaming up & saying that the board are going to have to choose between them is a lot of shite! 

Pretty sure the full team went straight to Pedro after Candeias goal against Hamilton! 

There may be an issue with Miller, and depending on how Pedro see's his comments, Wallace too! However I don't think it goes beyond that! 

Of course, we don't know the whole story but from what we do know all I can see is Miller leaving in Jan to another Scottish Premiership outfit, the likes of Killie!

Lee Wallace could possibly lose his captaincy as well, which in all honesty, we have been crying out for for a long time! Obvious choice would be Dorrans or Alves (Dorrans for me as I dunno how long Alves has left in him) 

There's nothing being dreamt up as it's been evidenced before - O'Halloran, Forrester, McKay, Halliday, Miller and maybe Wallace now (depending on how Pedro interprates his comments) .. A few players went running to Pedro after the Hamilton goal, wouldn't mind seeing a clip again to see how many I don't think it was most of them, but I could be wrong there.

[ForeverAndEver 71,912]

20 minutes ago, Redwhiteandblue said:

Who told Pedro that St Johnstone knew his team and tactics before we last played them last season then? 

The only link we have at St Johnstone is Foster. 

 

So I ask you again, have you got a better theory?

Nobody because they never knew, just like he never knew Kilmarnock's team, guesswork.

[Band of Brothers 10,303]

12 minutes ago, K.A.I said:

There's nothing being dreamt up as it's been evidenced before - O'Halloran, Forrester, McKay, Halliday, Miller and maybe Wallace now (depending on how Pedro interprates his comments) .. A few players went running to Pedro after the Hamilton goal, wouldn't mind seeing a clip again to see how many I don't think it was most of them, but I could be wrong there.

This yin

 

[K.A.I 36,183]

4 minutes ago, Band of Brothers said:

This yin

 

Cheers. Just shows Candiaes running to him on that, but I know a few went over seeing it live.

[Band of Brothers 10,303]

2 minutes ago, K.A.I said:

Cheers. Just shows Candiaes running to him on that, but I know a few went over seeing it live.

I dont think it was many tbh KAI 3 at most if I remember rite even if that.

[K.A.I 36,183]

Just now, Band of Brothers said:

I dont think it was many tbh KAI 3 at most if I remember rite even if that.

Aye same but I can't say for sure ... think Pena was one if not mistaken looked like it was more they guys 

This is when someone posts a gif of McCrorie, Jack, Dorrans, Tav and Windass all there with him too  

[Band of Brothers 10,303]

3 minutes ago, K.A.I said:

Aye same but I can't say for sure ... think Pena was one if not mistaken looked like it was more they guys 

This is when someone posts a gif of McCrorie, Jack, Dorrans, Tav and Windass all there with him too  

Searching like fuck here lol

I think it was just Candieas as he pointed and ran up to him.

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I wonder how Jock Wallace, Souness and Smith would have handled this situation? I think some kind of explosion in the dressing room and then banishment for the player.

[scottyc06 6,916]

6 minutes ago, K.A.I said:

There's nothing being dreamt up as it's been evidenced before - O'Halloran, Forrester, McKay, Halliday, Miller and maybe Wallace now (depending on how Pedro interprates his comments) .. A few players went running to Pedro after the Hamilton goal, wouldn't mind seeing a clip again to see how many I don't think it was most of them, but I could be wrong there.

Every one of them was underachieving, which maybe says a lot about how Pedro deals with such players but then again, have these players reacted badly to Pedro telling them they need to up their game if they want to play for us or simply that they aren't good enough to play for us at all! 

O'Halloran - Never broke into the team under 2 managers, gets shipped out on loan then spits the dummy because he wasn't part of the gaffers plans & moans that he wasn't getting fit enough despite not playing in months.

Forrester - Again a bit part player under 2 managers and never really set the game alight for us, would have a good game followed by 2 or 3 below average performancesI don't think he actually said anything against Caixinha other than wanting to prove him wrong in that he is a good player! 

McKay - Never went into any detail as to why he left other than that Caixinha wasn't treating him right? Runs off to a manager that played him most weeks! At the end of the day, he wasn't good enough for Rangers & his replacement is a definite improvement! 

Halliday - Was a big part of Warburtons teams & no matter how big a Rangers man he was he is a bang average footballer & again has been replaced by much better quality! 

Miller - Great servant to the club & dug us out a few holes but again, you can't deny the performances haven't been there this season! Another who has been replaced by a better player! 

 

The common denominator here isn't Pedro, it's the fact that every one of those players wasn't performing to the level they could of/had been or simply weren't good enough in the first place! Essentially he's getting rid of the dead wood, all be it, his methods might not be pleasant for those involved but they have been the right decisions! 

[scottyc06 6,916]

20 minutes ago, K.A.I said:

Aye same but I can't say for sure ... think Pena was one if not mistaken looked like it was more they guys 

This is when someone posts a gif of McCrorie, Jack, Dorrans, Tav and Windass all there with him too  

I seem to remember the majority going over but it was a Friday night game & you know how it is  the bus was bouncing on route to the game never mind coming home!