thehost 11,061 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Goosetav said: 99.9% of us don't want us to refuse tickets to games fine. but don't moan when the club gets continually fucked over. The only power we have is the blue £. Blue Avenger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,682 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 minute ago, thehost said: fine. but don't moan when the club gets continually fucked over. The only power we have is the blue £. Tragic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land Rover 789 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Cracking article , spot on in every way . Can we have another ban the Record campaign after Keechs latest shite ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,722 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 ?????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 hour ago, thehost said: You certainly would be if you wanted to keep funding your enemies and do direct harm to the club. If you just want to watch the football then fine, stick to those threads. If, on the other hand, you seek to get a fair whack for the club then political action requires to be taken. If I were the club id boycott ticket sales but open Ibrox up on the away match days and provide some pitch entertainment. If it doesn't change it will stay the same, or get worse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gj923 1,457 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 hour ago, thehost said: There is no Scottish football without us.... sooner we played that car, the better. Indeed, one of SDM's masterstrokes was to concede, to the diddy 10, whilst the filth were all for hanging them out to dry. Even if we had to team up with the filth. The pair of us, controlling our own TV rights, could see somewhere in the region of 10-15 times the TV revenue we currently get. Where is the basis for getting somewhere between 22m and 33m per year for individual TV rights? What happens to the rest of the clubs when their revenue is decreased - for some the TV money is a large chunk of change? Now whilst people would like this to happen where do we source our players from then when they leave the league due to much lower wages for the likes of lower England. When the competition we are up against is just above part time? Dave King is on a rant for whatever reason but as fans we should not lose sight of what a mess we are still in. No conspiracy has forced King et al to run up losses in the last 3 years till we have around 22-25m in debt, our commercial income is pish and we are chasing the dream of champions league football which will result in losses until then - this is not sustainable but lets all jump on the conspiracy band wagon with dave, proclaim we are leaving, boycott all grounds and hope against hope with no away support we win the league soon to hope our debt is not so huge as to impact on our future success. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big blue Fin 3,724 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Goosetav said: Wanker He frequently is, but loathe as I am to say it, he's got a point here. How many teams voted to try and cripple us believing their own fans would make up the financial shortfall? So I would certainly welcome us doing this in the league to try and starve these teams of the so called blue pound. They may turn around and refuse to take tickets for their visits to Ibrox but we already have a solid home fan base, something these teams don't or at least not in the numbers that ourselves and the taigs do. For Rangers as an entity to continue and challenge in Scottish football then something has to change and change soon or we will be left further and further behind the taigs. geneva_ger, Blue Avenger and Malvern 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,682 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 minute ago, big blue Fin said: He frequently is, but loathe as I am to say it, he's got a point here. How many teams voted to try and cripple us believing their own fans would make up the financial shortfall? So I would certainly welcome us doing this in the league to try and starve these teams of the so called blue pound. They may turn around and refuse to take tickets for their visits to Ibrox but we already have a solid home fan base, something these teams don't or at least not in the numbers that ourselves and the taigs do. For Rangers as an entity to continue and challenge in Scottish football then something has to change and change soon or we will be left further and further behind the taigs. Do you go to away games? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, gj923 said: Where is the basis for getting somewhere between 22m and 33m per year for individual TV rights? What happens to the rest of the clubs when their revenue is decreased - for some the TV money is a large chunk of change? Now whilst people would like this to happen where do we source our players from then when they leave the league due to much lower wages for the likes of lower England. When the competition we are up against is just above part time? Dave King is on a rant for whatever reason but as fans we should not lose sight of what a mess we are still in. No conspiracy has forced King et al to run up losses in the last 3 years till we have around 22-25m in debt, our commercial income is pish and we are chasing the dream of champions league football which will result in losses until then - this is not sustainable but lets all jump on the conspiracy band wagon with dave, proclaim we are leaving, boycott all grounds and hope against hope with no away support we win the league soon to hope our debt is not so huge as to impact on our future success. fuck the rest of the clubs that's the whole point geneva_ger and Blue Avenger 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 44 minutes ago, thehost said: fuck the rest of the clubs that's the whole point Aye but you're not dead staunch and has to go to every away game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BlueSherbert90 19,223 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 That was quite the enjoyable read:) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gj923 1,457 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 2 hours ago, thehost said: fuck the rest of the clubs that's the whole point so what happens when - the co-effiecent falls even further making it harder to get into Europe - the pool of players to recruit from to fill the home based rule becomes impossible due to quality - players dont want to come to us as the league is filled with a mixture of full time/part time teams Rambo1872 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
big blue Fin 3,724 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Goosetav said: Do you go to away games? Not for a few years, but I used to go to most of our away games. siddiqi_drinker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 id like the club to just play its games and nothing more, do not let them use our stadium for any events, dont do any press, do not allow our players in the Scotland squad, take the bare minimum amount of away tickets, do nothing to promote Scottish football and try to make life as difficult as possible for the SFA, drag out any potential tv or sponsorship deals etc basically let them know if they shite on us well do the same right back to them. We are bigger than all of them combined and without us they mean nothing so lets make that point and let them see that when someone is backed into a corner they will lash out id like us to win our 55th title then the very next season withdraw from the SPL and apply for a license in England or something like that, we could take our 55th title that we deserve then leave them to rot and never have to play in this ambomination of a league again, cant see it ever happening tho. Id rather start a new league with the smaller clubs from the lower leagues and give them some funding instead of those who want us dead. With the blue pound funding the league in a few years those smaller teams will be the same size as some SPL clubs if they play us 4 times a season, again i dont think this will ever happen but its a nice thought, to get it up the lot of them and do things our own way. geneva_ger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,682 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, big blue Fin said: Not for a few years, but I used to go to most of our away games. So another person who doesn't travel telling our away support they shouldn't be allowed to go and support the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo1872 4,065 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 54 minutes ago, gj923 said: so what happens when - the co-effiecent falls even further making it harder to get into Europe - the pool of players to recruit from to fill the home based rule becomes impossible due to quality - players dont want to come to us as the league is filled with a mixture of full time/part time teams Correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat 4,511 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Excellent article. Spot on from start to finish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 The uber staunch miss the point in a basic first principle, but let's not spoil the fun even if it helps the club get the upper hand on these hating cunts. Just keep feeding them and let them hate more as they fatten on the blue pound. Wooossssssshhhhhh... Would love Dave to call a boycott on away grounds. He's on a roll! geneva_ger and siddiqi_drinker 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulbrian11 432 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Going to away games is one of the most enjoyable aspects of being a football fan. Some posters seem to have forgotten the simple joys of supporting your team, preferring to rage at everyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneva_ger 9,331 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 6 hours ago, Paulbrian11 said: Going to away games is one of the most enjoyable aspects of being a football fan. Some posters seem to have forgotten the simple joys of supporting your team, preferring to rage at everyone. Yes of course it's very enjoyable but whilst you're playing ball with them they're sticking the bat up your arse. The above article is one of the best I've read in a very long time. I'm with Heart and Hand, The Host and Blue Fin on this one and fuck every other club, paper and anything associated with Scottish football and fenian society. Sadly SG may be then faced with more issues than we or he would want or need but this is about more than the game and that is my only regret. This is about us being completely ostracised in our own Presbyterian country by a very long list of dirty fenian bastards who will up the fucking ante more and more as time goes on. Stop being so fucking selfish. Stop being an apologist for all us bad bigoted cunts. Go to the away grounds if you want, no one is going to stop you but we may just make that as a polite request, but understand that you are not helping alleviate the issues those cunts have with our club, religion and National identity. When the status quo has been returned to Protestant Unionist Scotland (not only the football aspect) then please feel free to visit wherever the fuck you want because then and only then will you be free to do so without being a second class citizen. Fuck the pope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneva_ger 9,331 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 14 hours ago, Goosetav said: 99.9% of us don't want us to refuse tickets to games 2 ways to look at your statement. 99.9% of us don't want to have to refuse away (I assume) tickets? This being the case then I trust you're going in the right direction. Or are you just rabbiting shite and decided you represent 99.9% of Rangers fans? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 An article that length and depth that states we are not obsessed with them When will folks actually understand nothing but winning the league puts us back on top - the rest is just noise, false wars, and kinda pathetic and sad. Here’s to 55! Paulbrian11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
72barca 1,788 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 55 is absolutely the objective, but to get there we not only need a team, but we have to beat down all the midges in our way. That means going on the offensive on all fronts. No more dignified silence for now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, 72barca said: 55 is absolutely the objective, but to get there we not only need a team, but we have to beat down all the midges in our way. That means going on the offensive on all fronts. No more dignified silence for now. I agree, it would be great if all Rangers needed to do was get football players out there to compete. We also need a level playing field which Scottish football is far from at. Dignified silence is getting us no where. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewgardiner88 317 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Great read... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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