Gazzalivesforever 1,987 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, mclovin9091 said: Their fault for not getting the apps in, in time. Not ours, not our governments (Not as if the changes were made in July or Aug) However the tie should be reversed because...Sporting integrity... Would be surprised if that little cunt of a phrase doesn't rear its head again (Obviously excluding me bringing it up). Someone will come out and say that its only fair that we try and accommodate this administrative error from a new club playing in European competition, as it wasn't really their fault. Happily take a bye, we must be fucking due at least one. Its logistically impossible for the ties to be reversed. Firstly, we'd have two days to apply for and receive Russian visas which isnt going to happen. Secondly, the filth are at home for their 2nd leg the following Thursday. Police Scotland would never allow to European home games to be played on same night, not a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, left winger said: Not disputing any of that, but I would imagine there’s an appeal process. It would be logical for them to appeal, then who knows what might happen? There’s still a month till the first group matches and UEFA have made some strange decisions in the past. On what grounds?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,279 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: On what grounds?? I don't know. I haven't been in contact with UFA this morning. Some random person quoting a UEFA rule on an internet forum doesn't mean they know what's going to happen. None of us do, but we have all seen some bizarre decisions coming from UEFA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,505 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Russian football journalist saying they expect to get what they need tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 109,149 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, Broxi said: Russian football journalist saying they expect to get what they need tomorrow Good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, left winger said: I don't know. I haven't been in contact with UFA this morning. Some random person quoting a UEFA rule on an internet forum doesn't mean they know what's going to happen. None of us do, but we have all seen some bizarre decisions coming from UEFA. So the rules are just a vague idea of what can happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Broxi said: Russian football journalist saying they expect to get what they need tomorrow Good, either way they are getting humped oot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 65,028 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Fuck sake Was hoping this would be cancelled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamMunny 3,242 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Get at least 2 goals and a clean sheet this week and I'm confident of doing the job over there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,279 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: So the rules are just a vague idea of what can happen. That your opinion? Haven't seen that opinion anywhere else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Could never see it being cancelled. They would always gave found some way around it. Quite rightly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Got some Novichok on you at all? Let's have a wee search just in case, go to that booth, there is a papist priest waiting for you. Russia isn't in Europe, tell them to get to fuck, no visa for you commie if you haven't applied on time. Fuck sake took me a week to get an emergency passport from Malta when I lost my passport so why should they be fast tracked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billym27 315 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 good. if we get into the group stages at least we earned it and didn't have it given to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, left winger said: That your opinion? Haven't seen that opinion anywhere else. It’s the opinion of the UEFA rule book in very great detail exactly what happens if a club fails to turn up for a tie. As this shambles is all of their own doing, I doubt very much any appeal would do much good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 34 minutes ago, left winger said: That your opinion? Haven't seen that opinion anywhere else. It’s not an opinion. It is expressly detailed in the Europa League regulations for the 2018-2021 cycle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,708 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 They are getting their visas I would imagine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersross 6,530 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Good - prefer to thump them and keep the wins rolling in. More goals for Alfredo means more confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,279 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 35 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: It’s the opinion of the UEFA rule book in very great detail exactly what happens if a club fails to turn up for a tie. As this shambles is all of their own doing, I doubt very much any appeal would do much good. ‘So the rules are just a vague idea of what can happen’. Thats what you posted - not me. I asked if that was your opinion, because it isn’t mine and I haven’t seen that posted anywhere else. My opinion is that they would probably appeal if they got disqualified. I haven’t said that I thought they would be successful, but if it came to it, I wouldn’t have been surprised if they were successful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,279 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, The Dude said: It’s not an opinion. It is expressly detailed in the Europa League regulations for the 2018-2021 cycle. You’ve missed my point. I’m not disputing any rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebestest 2,145 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 What's the deal with refunds if this is cancelled? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, simplythebestest said: What's the deal with refunds if this is cancelled? 3 nil win i think mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, left winger said: You’ve missed my point. I’m not disputing any rules. That's the sole mechanism UEFA have to deal with this should Ufa forfeit. There's no method of appeal for them if they fail to fulfil a fixture through their own failures. If they aren't at Ibrox on Thursday night it's in black and white what happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 14,279 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: That's the sole mechanism UEFA have to deal with this should Ufa forfeit. There's no method of appeal for them if they fail to fulfil a fixture through their own failures. If they aren't at Ibrox on Thursday night it's in black and white what happens. ‘No method of appeal..... through their own failures’. If they said it was the fault of the UK governernment, for example, would they not be able to appeal on those grounds. Or is there no appeal process, at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, left winger said: ‘No method of appeal..... through their own failures’. If they said it was the fault of the UK governernment, for example, would they not be able to appeal on those grounds. Or is there no appeal process, at all? It's not the fault of the UK gov though. They have left it until the last minute to make their application despite the timescales involved. Clubs are also deemed as responsible by UEFA for ensuring their travel arrangements (including necessary visas to secure entry to a country). Waiting until 48 hours before they are due to travel to apply for a visa which normally takes five days to process isn't the fault of the UK gov. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, left winger said: ‘So the rules are just a vague idea of what can happen’. Thats what you posted - not me. I asked if that was your opinion, because it isn’t mine and I haven’t seen that posted anywhere else. My opinion is that they would probably appeal if they got disqualified. I haven’t said that I thought they would be successful, but if it came to it, I wouldn’t have been surprised if they were successful. Well your the one telling us that the post of the rule book by some random poster means nothing. So you must think the rule book is just some vague idea of what UEFA might do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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