Sons of Struth speak up!

[Virtuoso 27,180]

1 hour ago, WATP-FOREVER said:

And from a few years ago:

That decision was over turned:

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UEFA decision:

1. The appeal is partially upheld. As a result, the decision of the Control &
Disciplinary Body of 12 April 2006 is annulled and replaced by the present award.
2. Rangers FC is fined CHF 30,000.
3. Rangers FC is severely warned about its responsibility for any future misconduct
of its supporters in relation to sectarian and discriminatory behaviour.
4. The present disciplinary measures shall be combined with directives
safeguarding the correct execution of the present judgement. They will be
communicated to Rangers FC together with the written grounds of the decision.
5. The costs of the proceedings, totalling CHF 15,000 are to be paid as follows: CHF
10,000 by Rangers FC and CHF 5,000 by UEFA.
6. The written grounds of this decision will be communicated to the parties
subsequently.
7. The present decision is communicated to:
a. Rangers FC;
b. UEFA Disciplinary Inspectors;
c. Control and Disciplinary Body;
d. UEFA Administration;
e. The Scottish FA.
UEFA APPEALS BODY, Nyon (Switzerland), 7 June 2006
Chairman:
…………………...
Michel Wuillere

 

http://www.linfieldfc.com/pdfs/8393_rangers_vs_uefa.pdf

Then we had this which was where the mythical UEFA letter stemmed from:

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Joint Supporter/Club Statement

AT the request of a cross-section of Rangers Supporters, a meeting was
held last night with Chairman, David Murray and Chief Executive, Martin
Bain to discuss what the fans can collectively do to assist the Club in
their ongoing efforts to silence the Sectarian minority who continue to
damage the Club's reputation.

A positive debate was held at Murray Park and all parties are united in
a bid to silence the minority that continue to tarnish the reputation
of Rangers Football Club. It was obvious from last night's meeting that
the recent fines imposed by UEFA and the associated press coverage has
been detrimental to the Club and to the individuals who genuinely
support Rangers for its football and true values.It has been agreed
between members of the Club's Board and representatives of the fan base
that in the coming weeks this joint committee will do everything in
their power to ensure that the Club does not breach the UEFA directives
and implore upon the fans that self policing among the support is key
to avoid sanctions being imposed or expulsion from European competition
altogether.

David Murray commented: "These supporters groups represented should be
applauded for coming forward in recognition of the importance of this
issue. I am delighted at the progress we made last night."Over the last
two years the Club has strived fervently under the banner of Pride over
Prejudice working with the authorities to impose indefinite and
lifetime bans. "I look forward in the coming weeks to implementing some
of the actions that were discussed.It is absolutely clear to all
concerned that all Supporters need to commit to silencing the
minority."This meeting coincidently coincided with UEFA's written
grounds for the decision rendered by the Appeal Body in relation to
Rangers two Champions League matches against Villarreal.

UEFA have issued the Club with certain directives in order to combat
sectarianism more efficiently.Firstly the Club has been 'ordered to
announce measurable targets in order to reduce sectarian behaviour
amongst its supporters'.Secondly 'to control their anti-sectarian
activities by producing comprehensive statistics that are communicated
to the public'.

Finally 'to make a public address announcement at every official
fixture, be it international or domestic, stating that any sectarian
chanting and any form of 'Billy Boys' songs is strictly prohibited.'

David Edgar of the Rangers Supporters Trust, Mark Dingwall of Follow
Follow and Jim Templeton of the Rangers Supporters Assembly jointly
agreed the following Statement:"The message now could not be clearer
that the spotlight is upon the Supporters and the Club and it is their
duty to work together to stamp out the minority who are damaging the
reputations of all those connected with Rangers Football Club."Not only
does this small minority tarnish the reputation of Rangers, but of
Scottish football and our society in general and hopefully anyone who
is interested in Scottish football will work with us in assisting to
eradicate this behaviour."Supporter Representatives

Jim Templeton Assembly President

Alex Milree Chairman of the Scottish Alliance Delegates

Mark Dingwall Follow Follow/ Rangers Supporters Trust

James Carlin The Blue Order

Simon Leslie The Blue Order

Tam Green Lanarkshire Supporters Representative

David Edgar Rangers Supporters Trust, Media Spokesperson

Ross Blyth Fife and District supporters club representative

Malcolm McNiven Rangers Supporters Trust, Chairman

 

 

[Rambo1872 4,065]

Our songs one decade, our flags the next.....careful

[Bertent 2,081]

Dear fellow Rangers fans  of the oik variety, Give you money to Dave and the gang, blazers dont come cheap and mines greasy from ovens.

 

Now do as your told by our gracious benefactor.

 

Will this do Dave? 

[Virtuoso 27,180]

On 26/08/2019 at 20:35, Rambo1872 said:

Our songs one decade, our flags the next.....careful

This x tenfold ^^^

Here's an old article from  Feriens Tego that appeared on FF back in 2006:

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Chip...Chip...Chip...

While celtic fans are allowed to sing their sectarian songs of hate with impunity it has never been so clear that those who hate us will not stop their vendetta until our very existence as a football club and support is gone.

Stop Orangemen from entering your stadium for their annual Church parade and it will go a long way to removing the stigma of you being a sectarian club.

We did it.

Sign a Roman Catholic, a Scottish/Glaswegian one, and it will go a long way to removing the stigma of you being a sectarian club.

We did it.

Withdraw those Orange tops that were your clubs most popular, as we think they have sectarian overtones attached to them.

We did it.

Yes, but you have never had a Roman Catholic captain in your side ever.

Step forward Lorenzo Amoruso.

We did it.

Yes but you never, ever had a Roman Catholic on your board at any time.

Bob Brannan.

We did it.

Yes, but that "Simply the Best" is sectarian, it'll have to go.

We did it.

Aye, you lot have never ever had a Roman Catholic manager.

Paul Le Guen.

We did it.

Yes, but you fly flags that are sectarian, like the Union flag.

You say "We Are The People" which is sectarian.

You sing "God Save The Queen" which is sectarian.

The flag and National Anthem of your country is sectarian?

Your display of cards depicting a Union flag and two Saltires were akin to a Nuremberg Rally.

My nation’s flag and my country's flag together are Nazi flags now?

I'll be reporting you to Sepp Blatter for your singing through the Champions League theme at the start of your matches.

That's an offence now is it?

Rangers players attacked in the street by vermin.

No arrests.

Rangers players homes and cars attacked by vermin.

No arrests.

Rangers players attacked at celtic Park with lighters and mobile phones thrown from the stands.

No arrests.

The waving of Union flags and the playing of the Dambusters song is ''Militaristic''.

Is it really? In our own Country?

Singing ''Rule Britannia'' is sectarian and offensive.

Written by a Scotsman and a song that is British?

If you drop ''Eff Tee Pee'' it will all end at that.

We did it.

Now, in February 2015, the handwringers in our support say we must stop singing “No Surrender”.

Do you think it will end at that?

YOU DECIDE!

 

How very prophetic.

Reposted on VB back in 2015:

https://www.vanguardbears.co.uk/article.php?i=48&a=chip,-chip,-chip-----

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Those who hate us will not stop their vendetta until our very existence as a football club and support is gone.

I'll leave those words there...

[To Be A Ranger 4,032]

On 26/08/2019 at 15:15, Reformation Bear said:

So the basic message is don't sing in a way that the Chairman of Rangers, the directors of Rangers, the execs of Rangers, the Manager of Rangers and now the voicepiece of SOS find offensive...... an offence is imported into their current way of thinking via UEFA.      Or else.

It'll be interesting to see how well this message is received and acted on by the Support at the game on Thursday...…...and at the OF game at the weekend...…...and at the next European games if we qualify...……..and at domestic games throughout the rest of the season.    

Times change and many things that were acceptable in years gone by are not welcome now. There is pressure to assert a zero tolerance approach to appease the faux offended but times do change and we have to move with them. 

Some seem to be making the argument that everything we represent as a club and support hinges on our right to sing certain words. That is such a paranoid cop-out.

The history and culture of Rangers means much more than singing a few naughty words. Get them changed, leave them out, or don't sing the songs. There are countless other tunes that we enjoy and sing with gusto. 

I enjoy a good sash bash as much as anyone but if certain phrases are deemed to be causing upset in this age of OTT political correctness then we have to play by the rules.

It's human nature to fight against change especially when it challenges a comfortable environment but change can be a good thing. 

We all want Rangers back winning trophies and competing at a decent level in Euro competitions. Continue singing the same stuff will hinder the club's progress. Dropping a few words from a song is such a small and easy thing to do.

[thehost 11,061]

cliff must be in danger of getting writers cramp

[thehost 11,061]

On ‎26‎/‎08‎/‎2019 at 19:35, Virtuoso said:

That decision was over turned:

http://www.linfieldfc.com/pdfs/8393_rangers_vs_uefa.pdf

Then we had this which was where the mythical UEFA letter stemmed from:

 

there never was a letter...… they saw the back of a piece of paper, waved about by baldychops…………………… 

[The Beast 9,230]

The gimp is hardly going to bite the hand that feeds him.

[Smile 26,610]

Pity they didnt feel this way when their protests led to actual Ibrox staff being attacked sos seem a bit like Uefa itself attacks are okay but please no nasty songs.  

Why are we constantly getting this from various factions rather than one voice which should be the weak board.

[Virtuoso 27,180]

1 hour ago, The Beast said:

The gimp is hardly going to bite the hand that feeds him.

C1872 / SVL have remained strangely quiet on recent events 🙄

[Blumhoilann 6,712]

6 hours ago, To Be A Ranger said:

Times change and many things that were acceptable in years gone by are not welcome now. There is pressure to assert a zero tolerance approach to appease the faux offended but times do change and we have to move with them. 

Some seem to be making the argument that everything we represent as a club and support hinges on our right to sing certain words. That is such a paranoid cop-out.

The history and culture of Rangers means much more than singing a few naughty words. Get them changed, leave them out, or don't sing the songs. There are countless other tunes that we enjoy and sing with gusto. 

I enjoy a good sash bash as much as anyone but if certain phrases are deemed to be causing upset in this age of OTT political correctness then we have to play by the rules.

It's human nature to fight against change especially when it challenges a comfortable environment but change can be a good thing. 

We all want Rangers back winning trophies and competing at a decent level in Euro competitions. Continue singing the same stuff will hinder the club's progress. Dropping a few words from a song is such a small and easy thing to do.

You make some very valid points but we don't ask for preferencial treatment,we ask for parity.