ElBufalo20 8,176 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Goldson comments were stupid but did he really do anything wrong yesterday on the park performance wise? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 78,063 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, Ayrshire Blue said: I get what your saying but no player or vice-captain of our club should ever come out with that feeble drivel ever. Say we got outplayed, the better team won, or whatever BUT never give the impression you’re defeated with 45 minutes of football remaining. Yes, we were down 3-1, a 2 goal deficit, but they scored 3 in 20 minutes - Goldson had surrendered with over twice that time left. Fuck him, he’s not fit to wear that shirt. I agree about the comments at 3-1. He’s checked out and simply doesn’t give a fuck now. Ayrshire Blue and falkirkNS 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 18,228 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 12 hours ago, Jimbeamjunior said: He was never mr consistent pre covid, infact the last game before lockdown he tried to be fancy in his own box and cost us the game at home to Hamilton, he was erratic pre covid but people couldnt see it (well some of us could) Yeah, I remember that. My post was primarily talking about last season. Never missed a minute the whole season in a side that went undefeated in the league....losing only lost 13 goals, that's consistency. We've already lost 13 in the league this season. I just don't understand what's happened....why he's clearly chucked it. Ayrshire Blue 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post STEPPS BOY 78,063 Posted November 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, ElBufalo20 said: Goldson comments were stupid but did he really do anything wrong yesterday on the park performance wise? The defence was an absolute disgrace yesterday and tbh has been virtually all season. ElBufalo20, BridgeIsBlue, Ayrshire Blue and 4 others 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 11,390 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 If the contract offer hasn’t already been withdrawn it needs to be right now. More than 24 hours after it I still think that the “games over” comment shows he isn’t fit to wear the jersey. Ayrshire Blue and SPWF 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Blue 2,065 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, LegendofCoop said: Yeah, I remember that. My post was primarily talking about last season. Never missed a minute the whole season in a side that went undefeated in the league....losing only lost 13 goals, that's consistency. We've already lost 13 in the league this season. I just don't understand what's happened....why he's clearly chucked it. I think missing Helander has cost us. He can read a game better than Goldson. NI, ZZed, chris182 and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkNS 6,298 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 We know about goldson and his COD social media captain Tavernier being dire. But balogun gives me bi polarness, some weeks he's been outstanding next he's went all fkn Joe worrall. Do we reckon this is the goldson/tav effect? Or would balogun be solid with big helander in there beside him watpmurph 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 32,518 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Ayrshire Blue said: I think missing Helander has cost us. He can read a game better than Goldson. Absolutely mate. Better player no doubt. Goldson is a traffic cop with his antics waving at every cunt. Ayrshire Blue 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperLeeMcCulloch 2,506 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, ElBufalo20 said: Goldson comments were stupid but did he really do anything wrong yesterday on the park performance wise? Part of a defence that conceded a first half hat trick to Martin Boyle, he is part of the problem, chucked it after the 2nd goal by his own admission as well. I was calm after watching the full interview but thinking about it more and I can feel the rage building, it won't happen but I would rip up his contract forget the fee. falkirkNS and Ayrshire Blue 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 8,176 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: The defence was an absolute disgrace yesterday and tbh has been virtually all season. You’re probably right the whole team has been poor defensively but it feels to me Tavernier and Goldson seem to be the whipping boys again for the fan base when most of the team underperformed. Kent was awful yesterday and didn’t do anything but for some reason everyone was booing the substitution. The whole team deserves criticism not just Tavernier and Goldson Ayrshire Blue 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 8,176 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, falkirkNS said: We know about goldson and his COD social media captain Tavernier being dire. But balogun gives me bi polarness, some weeks he's been outstanding next he's went all fkn Joe worrall. Do we reckon this is the goldson/tav effect? Or would balogun be solid with big helander in there beside him Why would our left centre back be affected by our right backs performance? Again easy targets Malkytfp1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,784 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: I agree about the comments at 3-1. He’s checked out and simply doesn’t give a fuck now. I completely disagree with that. I think if you look at his body language and his face he does give a fuck. I'm fucked off with some of his performances as well as his contract situation and his comment about the game being over was fucking daft at best (don't have any issue with him mentioning the hunger as he's right) but the witch hunt on here is a fucking red neck. Cunts want us to boo his every touch. A guy who was at times heroic last season who was chucked under the bus by his captain yesterday with the interview in the first place. Jamie0202 and don logan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 32,518 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Makes you laugh though. Goldson wanting to double his wage with us. 😀 falkirkNS and Ayrshire Blue 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Blue 2,065 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, falkirkNS said: We know about goldson and his COD social media captain Tavernier being dire. But balogun gives me bi polarness, some weeks he's been outstanding next he's went all fkn Joe worrall. Do we reckon this is the goldson/tav effect? Or would balogun be solid with big helander in there beside him I think Helander/Balogun would be a better footballing partnership. I said to a few mates last season that Goldson should be rested in the ‘easier’ games to develop a new partnership incase Goldson ever got injured. Instead, he set a new record as an ever present, displaying a great fitness record AND hasn’t signed a new contract. Talk about putting yourself in the shop window . falkirkNS 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJacketRFC 7,662 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Really never want to see him around our squad again. Mutual Consent a contract termination and let him go. Having people like him around when a new manager is trying to stamp his new era will not be good. What sort of message is that to kids or anyone watching that interview when the going gets tough just give up. Any big Premier League club who want to achieve anything never will touch him after that. Ayrshire Blue 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,791 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 What game was he booed for the BLM stuff? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,784 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, falkirkNS said: We know about goldson and his COD social media captain Tavernier being dire. But balogun gives me bi polarness, some weeks he's been outstanding next he's went all fkn Joe worrall. Do we reckon this is the goldson/tav effect? Or would balogun be solid with big helander in there beside him You've spouted some utter drivel about Goldson for months but trying to blame Balougun's pish defending on him and Tav is mental even for you. Equally embarrassing is getting so uptight that a player plays a computer game on his day off. Hope to fuck they don't have Christmas dinner this year or you'll be protesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 78,063 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: I completely disagree with that. I think if you look at his body language and his face he does give a fuck. I'm fucked off with some of his performances as well as his contract situation and his comment about the game being over was fucking daft at best (don't have any issue with him mentioning the hunger as he's right) but the witch hunt on here is a fucking red neck. Cunts want us to boo his every touch. A guy who was at times heroic last season who was chucked under the bus by his captain yesterday with the interview in the first place. That interview was him simply not giving a fuck. Throwing team mates under a bus as if he’s not in any way at fault. He was heroic last season, not a single person can deny that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,784 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, STEPPS BOY said: That interview was him simply not giving a fuck. Throwing team mates under a bus as if he’s not in any way at fault. He was heroic last season, not a single person can deny that. Fwiw I think he was including himself in that. Saying the hunger has went. We've all said it for months. I've no problem with him saying that. I do agree with the majority that he was utterly wrong about the game being over at 3-1 down but nothing else was wrong for me. For that to transpire into what it has with him being abused and talk of ripping up his contract etc is just baffling to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Blue 2,065 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, ElBufalo20 said: You’re probably right the whole team has been poor defensively but it feels to me Tavernier and Goldson seem to be the whipping boys again for the fan base when most of the team underperformed. Kent was awful yesterday and didn’t do anything but for some reason everyone was booing the substitution. The whole team deserves criticism not just Tavernier and Goldson I’ll cut Tav a bit of slack - he’s contributed a lot more than he has cost us. But, he’s a shite defender. Patterson has to take his place, Bassey has to take Borna’s place …… but here’s the curved ball. Play Tav in midfield ….. in front of …..Bassey ? Then let Kent go wide with Tav cutting inside? falkirkNS 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,784 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Ayrshire Blue said: I’ll cut Tav a bit of slack - he’s contributed a lot more than he has cost us. But, he’s a shite defender. Patterson has to take his place, Bassey has to take Borna’s place …… but here’s the curved ball. Play Tav in midfield ….. in front of …..Bassey ? Then let Kent go wide with Tav cutting inside? I think Tav moving into one of the midfield positions isn't the worst shout. Almost where Aribo plays right of centre. Didn't Gio do that with us? Go from left back to centre mid? Ricksen also did that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertzLoyalRSC 18,471 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ayrshire Blue said: I’ll cut Tav a bit of slack - he’s contributed a lot more than he has cost us. But, he’s a shite defender. Patterson has to take his place, Bassey has to take Borna’s place …… but here’s the curved ball. Play Tav in midfield ….. in front of …..Bassey ? Then let Kent go wide with Tav cutting inside? Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadron Collider 32,518 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, AlbertzLoyalRSC said: Wow. Can’t keep doing what we’ve been doing mate. It’s not working. Let’s see what Gio comes up with. 👍 Ayrshire Blue and AlbertzLoyalRSC 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,879 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Malkytfp1 said: I think Tav moving into one of the midfield positions isn't the worst shout. Almost where Aribo plays right of centre. Didn't Gio do that with us? Go from left back to centre mid? Ricksen also did that. You would think he would be able to play in the middle of the park with little to no problems. For all his faults defensible his technical ability and engine are both incredible, and like you say there’s loads of players who have been able to do both. However, I think the only way to accommodate him and Patterson is if we went 3-4-3 but we certainly aren’t going to do that early doors under Gio. Ayrshire Blue and Malkytfp1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkytfp1 19,784 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: You would think he would be able to play in the middle of the park with little to no problems. For all his faults defensible his technical ability and engine are both incredible, and like you say there’s loads of players who have been able to do both. However, I think the only way to accommodate him and Patterson is if we went 3-4-3 but we certainly aren’t going to do that early doors under Gio. Aye he loves the 4-3-2-1. I think Tav could play that role but like you said. He can do the defensive work from midfield and has probably the best engine in the team. Can hit a ball also. Maybe worth tinkering with. Ayrshire Blue 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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