The Dude 20,027 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Loyal72 said: You've taken me wrong here, I'm not saying other goals should be discounted. But the league is our bread and butter and it is where we expect players to perform, it is what players are judged upon before anything else. Alfredo Morelos' league performances for Rangers are more than replaceable. European Alfredo Morelos is a different story. But we need to actually be getting there first. They are the same player though. You can’t cherry-pick one some of his games and ignore others. Don’t understand what you mean by ‘we need to be actually getting there first’ re: Europe. We reached the CL groups this season and the EL final last season. One before that was EL last 16 iirc. We ARE getting there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 13,893 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 43 minutes ago, The Dude said: They are the same player though. You can’t cherry-pick one some of his games and ignore others. Don’t understand what you mean by ‘we need to be actually getting there first’ re: Europe. We reached the CL groups this season and the EL final last season. One before that was EL last 16 iirc. We ARE getting there. I'm not ignoring the other parts of his game though? I'm telling you Alfredo Morelos, domestically has not been good enough for Rangers and is more than replaceable, that'd be correct, no? And there's a difference between slogging through qualifiers having to take the hard route, and winning the league getting automatic placement for the UCL. Yeah? Glad we got there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rangers_no1 34,622 Posted March 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Loyal72 said: domestically has not been good enough for Rangers 133 goals/assists in 195 appearances is not good enough when he doesn't take penalties or set plays? Behave yourself. The Dude, Laudrupsleftfoot, SkylineBlue and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZZed 4,559 Posted March 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, Loyal72 said: I'm not ignoring the other parts of his game though? I'm telling you Alfredo Morelos, domestically has not been good enough for Rangers and is more than replaceable, that'd be correct, no? And there's a difference between slogging through qualifiers having to take the hard route, and winning the league getting automatic placement for the UCL. Yeah? Glad we got there. NorthernLights, The Dude, Davy Vandenbroucke and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowley Birkin 10,040 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 i saw a few pages back people where still calling him fat wish i was as fat as morelos Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Dude 20,027 Posted March 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, Loyal72 said: I'm not ignoring the other parts of his game though? I'm telling you Alfredo Morelos, domestically has not been good enough for Rangers and is more than replaceable, that'd be correct, no? And there's a difference between slogging through qualifiers having to take the hard route, and winning the league getting automatic placement for the UCL. Yeah? Glad we got there. In the league - 76 goals and 35 assists in 171 games Cups - 17 goals and 5 assists in 24 games That's 'not good enough' for a £1m signing? Absolute nonsense. SwallowsHisOwnSpunk, sasap, RM Monitor And Standards Officer and 9 others 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeRab 3,409 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Value is irrelevant. It’s a sunk cost when we sign a player. We can look back and debate whether they have been good or bad value for money. But it has no bearing on whether they are good enough to be the main player in a position moving forward. Morelos has been v good value for money. He isn’t good enough to be our main striker to win the league on current form/if he’s not fully fit. Peak/fit Morelos is though Number6 and Ladytonbear 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 12,290 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Loved him as player when at his best for us, think it's a shame he's not sitting on over 100 league goals as he 'should' be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,591 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 5 hours ago, ayro said: Ah right misread that. He was fine under GvB last season but unfortunately got injured. His fitness this season has been unacceptable and a lot of that is down to him but if MB reckons he could get him back to his best I would support it. I do think a fresh start probably suits all parties. Fine isn't good enough mate, he's not scored 20 goals in a season since 2019-20, he's been nowhere near as dynamic as he was in the first half of that season, after that whole shambles when he came back late then missed Tynecastle he's never been the same. He did just enough to get by and he's now finding out where you approach your mid to late 20s that isn't manageable, I don't think he's not trying to get into shape, I just don't think he can, not at Rangers anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanVeenRangers 2,707 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 8 hours ago, The Dude said: I reckon smashing the club's all-time European goalscoring record probably counts more than making a gesture to some opposition fans. It means very little on the grand scheme of things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,934 Posted March 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, MorelosRangers said: It means very little on the grand scheme of things. Its weird amongst Rangers fans I kept seeing it being said his goals came in qualifiers etc yet not many of them did, there’s thins thing to downplay Alfie and anything he does/has done. I get why people don’t like him etc but to be our record European goal scorer is some achievement. when we pumped that Belgian side in the 55 season I think we scored 8 or 9 over 2 legs and he had an involvement in 7 or 8 of the goals. I get people don’t like him that’s fine but he’s had some top performances as a striker in europe for us, dortmund, Porto, feyenoord to name but a few dummiesoot, Negri's lovechild, VanVeenRangers and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanVeenRangers 2,707 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, RFC55 said: Its weird amongst Rangers fans I kept seeing it being said his goals came in qualifiers etc yet not many of them did, there’s thins thing to downplay Alfie and anything he does/has done. I get why people don’t like him etc but to be our record European goal scorer is some achievement. when we pumped that Belgian side in the 55 season I think we scored 8 or 9 over 2 legs and he had an involvement in 7 or 8 of the goals. I get people don’t like him that’s fine but he’s had some top performances as a striker in europe for us, dortmund, Porto, feyenoord to name but a few You are very correct on the points made. Some of those games he was immense. Unplayable. But coming back late from Colombia or fat as fuck after time off and poor attitude will always overshadow what he has done for us. Look at Alfie v Porto and how lean and fast he was to now. He almost cost us Champions League qualification this season by being a lazy bastard when he had 5 months to get trim. Then because we qualified he was putting up pictures in the gym. It was too late and he is still trying to shift the pounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,934 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, MorelosRangers said: You are very correct on the points made. Some of those games he was immense. Unplayable. But coming back late from Colombia or fat as fuck after time off and poor attitude will always overshadow what he has done for us. Look at Alfie v Porto and how lean and fast he was to now. He almost cost us Champions League qualification this season by being a lazy bastard when he had 5 months to get trim. Then because we qualified he was putting up pictures in the gym. It was too late and he is still trying to shift the pounds. When Alfie played v Porto and “looked lean as fuck” he was accused of being fat and a liability then Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 73,990 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 38 minutes ago, RFC55 said: Its weird amongst Rangers fans I kept seeing it being said his goals came in qualifiers etc yet not many of them did, there’s thins thing to downplay Alfie and anything he does/has done. I get why people don’t like him etc but to be our record European goal scorer is some achievement. when we pumped that Belgian side in the 55 season I think we scored 8 or 9 over 2 legs and he had an involvement in 7 or 8 of the goals. I get people don’t like him that’s fine but he’s had some top performances as a striker in europe for us, dortmund, Porto, feyenoord to name but a few The headers against Feyenoord too. He was ridiculous in Europe for us. Maintain that we win the league and Europa with him RM Monitor And Standards Officer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanVeenRangers 2,707 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, RFC55 said: When Alfie played v Porto and “looked lean as fuck” he was accused of being fat and a liability then I can't remember tbh mate. But his 2 goals at home - look how fit he looks versus now. It's a shame he hasn't stayed consistent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,934 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: The headers against Feyenoord too. He was ridiculous in Europe for us. Maintain that we win the league and Europa with him Agree with this mate ForeverAndEver 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemdog 39,389 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I'll always love him. A truly mad bastard that has the ability to wind everyone up, including his own fans. We all know there's been spells that he's not been good enough, but looking back at his record, especially in Europe - he's been a special player for us. That Thursday night Morelos was different gravy. Edit - I forgot to say, it is definitely the right time for him to move on though & I hope Beale continues with Colak upfront for the rest of the Season. ayro, NorthernLights and RM Monitor And Standards Officer 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,934 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, GabrielTomato said: I'll always love him. A truly mad bastard that has the ability to wind everyone up, including his own fans. We all know there's been spells that he's not been good enough, but looking back at his record, especially in Europe - he's been a special player for us. That Thursday night Morelos was different gravy. My boy says I love Alfie more than him and he’s right but it’s time for the wee man to go. I’ll also always love him falkirkNS and NorthernLights 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 13,893 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Rangers_no1 said: 133 goals/assists in 195 appearances is not good enough when he doesn't take penalties or set plays? Behave yourself. That's a lie. No even scored that many goals 😂 add facts or shut up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 13,893 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 hours ago, The Dude said: In the league - 76 goals and 35 assists in 171 games Cups - 17 goals and 5 assists in 24 games That's 'not good enough' for a £1m signing? Absolute nonsense. When did I say he wasn't good enough for a £1m signing? Don't add words to suit 😂 Overall 74 league goals in six years is easily replaceable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,934 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Loyal72 said: When did I say he wasn't good enough for a £1m signing? Don't add words to suit 😂 Overall 74 league goals in six years and is easily replaceable. Yet anyone we brought to replace him haven’t managed to Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal72 13,893 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Just now, RFC55 said: Yet anyone we brought to replace him haven’t managed to Colak is so far outscoring his last three domestic seasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Loyal72 said: I'm telling you Alfredo Morelos, domestically has not been good enough for Rangers and is more than replaceable, 3 minutes ago, Loyal72 said: When did I say he wasn't good enough for a £1m signing? Don't add words to suit 😂 Overall 74 league goals in six years is easily replaceable. There. If it is ‘easily replaceable’ why haven’t we managed it? RM Monitor And Standards Officer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,934 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Loyal72 said: Colak is so far outscoring his last three domestic seasons. But can’t start every game cause he doesn’t have enough about him, that’s not a dig as I like him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Loyal72 said: Colak is so far outscoring his last three domestic seasons. Colak is also out scoring most of his own domestic seasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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