BlueSuedeSambas 56,274 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 11 minutes ago, RFC55 said: With how FFP is there isn't a board who could fund us to the level we all expect. It's why things like NEH and the stadium upgrade are happening as it helps you have more flexibility with regards to It. A bit of creative accounting as they say And let’s not forget that there has actually been decent backing, we just continually waste it on shite players. RM Monitor And Standards Officer and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooperson 993 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 2 minutes ago, BlueVanguard said: You really think so? Shankland will be like a dog with 10 dicks on heat if we are starting Davies centre back. Aye, not saying the squad is any better, but they are still better than Hearts Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 5,037 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Just now, Cooperson said: Aye, not saying the squad is any better, but they are still better than Hearts On paper that is true but games come down to key moments. We might dominate midfield and fail to score as we are powderpuff upfront. He might get one chance and batter it home. We have nobody like that in our squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 69,287 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I think we will make signings before then but I think Hearts beat us at Tynecastle as it stands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJacketRFC 7,608 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 minute ago, Cooperson said: Aye, not saying the squad is any better, but they are still better than Hearts On paper yes in most areas but this squad don't play to there value and paychecks sadly. Hearts can't be undermined. Yan Dhanda will be crucial to how they play and they have some decent players that are more than capable of causing an upset. DrLaudrup 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RM Monitor And Standards Officer 112,507 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 5 minutes ago, BlueSuedeSambas said: And let’s not forget that there has actually been decent backing, we just continually waste it on shite players. I don't know about you but with everything the now I've never been so deflated going into a season GD93, corbyloyal84 and born a blue nose 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 31,961 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Last season I think he got the maximum out of the players he had available. They are all mostly not good enough for us. People go on about seeing continuous improvement. 90% of the squad is at the maximum level they will ever play at. We’ve got no money to bring anyone decent in and even if we did, Clement can’t go out and identify a player he wants and just sign him. Cooperson, The Specky Forum Organiser, Redmond7 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooperson 993 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 minute ago, The Specky Forum Organiser said: I think we will make signings before then but I think Hearts beat us at Tynecastle as it stands. That's the spirit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooperson 993 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 3 minutes ago, DrLaudrup said: On paper that is true but games come down to key moments. We might dominate midfield and fail to score as we are powderpuff upfront. He might get one chance and batter it home. We have nobody like that in our squad. That to me is the key, the midfield looks a lot better, just need to sort out up front DrLaudrup 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,274 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 minute ago, RFC55 said: I don't know about you but with everything the now I've never been so deflated going into a season Was saying the same thing to the boys last night. Whole season seems snakebit already and we haven’t even kicked a ball yet. RM Monitor And Standards Officer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersross 6,686 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Who would you take from the team that started under Caixinha in the first SPL game of the 17/18 season, versus yesterday's team? Obviously a different system, but I'd say at least four: Miller, Candeias, Windass, and Wallace over Dessers, Wright, Lawrence, and Jefte. Pretty concerning that our attacking options have got so much weaker compared to such a mediocre side. Starting XI against Motherwell: Wes Foderingham Bruno Alves Fábio Cardoso Lee Wallace Lee Hodson Graham Dorrans Ryan Jack Josh Windass Daniel Candeias Eduardo Herrera Kenny Miller Starting XI against United: Butland Sterling Souttar Davies Jefte Diomande Barron Cortes Lawrence Wright Dessers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 56,274 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 5 minutes ago, rangersross said: Who would you take from the team that started under Caixinha in the first SPL game of the 17/18 season, versus yesterday's team? Obviously a different system, but I'd say at least four: Miller, Candeias, Windass, and Wallace over Dessers, Wright, Lawrence, and Jefte. Pretty concerning that our attacking options have got so much weaker compared to such a mediocre side. Starting XI against Motherwell: Wes Foderingham Bruno Alves Fábio Cardoso Lee Wallace Lee Hodson Graham Dorrans Ryan Jack Josh Windass Daniel Candeias Eduardo Herrera Kenny Miller Starting XI against United: Butland Sterling Souttar Davies Jefte Diomande Barron Cortes Lawrence Wright Dessers Wallace, Jack, Windass, Candeias and Miller. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 12,130 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Sorry but if Hearts beat us Clement has no hiding place. No excuses whatsoever for that to happen, our squad is still far better than theirs. Cooperson and kelvd1873 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenv 2,177 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 hour ago, Swagger said: Crazy thing is as bad as Wright is I’d still play him before McCausland or Matondo Sorry state of affairs Even though it's the front-end of the pitch that's our biggest issue, if those are our choices I'd just drop playing a player in that position and throw on an extra defender or midfielder. Or goalkeeper, if I could get away with that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,116 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 32 minutes ago, Cooperson said: Nah, that squad is still good enough to beat Hearts imo That squad couldn’t manage that on the final day of last season with the pressure entirely off The Specky Forum Organiser and DrLaudrup 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger 8,892 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 11 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: Sorry but if Hearts beat us Clement has no hiding place. No excuses whatsoever for that to happen, our squad is still far better than theirs. Hearts at home, couple of new faces and we roll up in a worse state than last season We’ll be lucky to scrape a point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooperson 993 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 4 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: That squad couldn’t manage that on the final day of last season with the pressure entirely off Different squad this time, but still.good enough to beat Hearts imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,116 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Just now, Cooperson said: Different squad this time, but still.good enough to beat Hearts imo The only thing different about this squad since then is the quality has arguably dropped further Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackg93 465 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I reckon he will be gone by Xmas and we will be in the exact same position next season which doesn’t bear thinking about.. With reference to the OP, I think he got off relatively scot free last year because of the league cup win as though it was some huge achievement. From memory he came in at the semi stage so we had to beat Hearts & Aberdeen - which I would expect us to do 9/10 times, and I’d have expected Beale to win that had he remained in post even though we had some questionable results. He did really well putting us in a position to challenge in the league - combination of us having some good results and celtic having a bad run, but it meant nothing in the end, we had the advantage at a couple of points - chucked it against Motherwell, County & Dundee - some unforgivable results. 3 or 4 wins in last 8 or 9 was it? That was/is on him. Benfica at home as well, that seemed to be a turning point - we were so flat. The biggest concern is the lack of improvement in most players, and the football by in large is dire under him - I don’t know what the plan is or what we are trying to achieve. Results masked this at the start, but I fear for us this season if we don’t get a decent start at Tynecastle. SeparateEntityMyArse and Laudrupsleftfoot 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrupsleftfoot 12,130 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 7 minutes ago, .Williamson. said: That squad couldn’t manage that on the final day of last season with the pressure entirely off Do Hearts have a better first 11 and/or squad than us? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooperson 993 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Just now, .Williamson. said: The only thing different about this squad since then is the quality has arguably dropped further Arguably maybe, midfield is better, just need a proven goalscorer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR3 12,845 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 First Old Firm only four games in and away from home. Dreading that already. Might even be dreading Tynecastle now on recent evidence tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackg93 465 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 We should be beating Hearts. Arguably 2-3 of their players make our squad, maybe 1 pushes for a starting spot but there’s no excuse not to there and expect 3 points - if we don’t - that’s on Clement imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 87,116 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 5 minutes ago, Laudrupsleftfoot said: Do Hearts have a better first 11 and/or squad than us? You liked my first post on this topic, did you read it? Laudrupsleftfoot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom1780 1,257 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I’m not sure we have more than 3 pts after the first 4 games with this team and be looking for a new manager too Results don’t mean much pre season but performance does yesterday was poor Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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