Ibroxblue 122 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Fergie looked more like his old self tonight. That's a good thing by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 So when we're winning are you just "bear"? Or is it "moderately satisfied bear"? "quite pleased bear"? It's been that long i forget Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggy 9 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Cunts justs DB!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wreckedroy 33 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I thought Ferguson looked pretty decent tbh! Sat back a bit more and didn't try and get involved in every passage of play and the team benefited from it. When he got the ball, he didnt waste it. Decent run out. I agree Kev. I wish I'd counted the number of "hospital passes" Brown, and in particular Hartley, played to Ferguson in the 1st half. I thought both were shockingly poor. :angry2: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquid111 51 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 It saddens me to see that some folk cannot (or will not) recognise that Ferguson is a quality/classy player. On the other hand, it heartens me to see that many people still recognise this. I think Ferguson will improve game-on-game. In the meantime, I'm just happy to see him playing a natural game, and avoiding injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootSpeedKillLight 0 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I thought Ferguson looked pretty decent tbh! Sat back a bit more and didn't try and get involved in every passage of play and the team benefited from it. When he got the ball, he didnt waste it. Decent run out. I agree Kev. I wish I'd counted the number of "hospital passes" Brown, and in particular Hartley, played to Ferguson in the 1st half. I thought both were shockingly poor. :angry2: I think there might be a footballer lurking somewhere in Brown, but Hartley is just shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfc_no1fan 13 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 If you are happy with that performance from Barry Ferguson our standards have dropped dramatically Are we happy with 2nd best, cause if thats all he's got we aint going to win the league. Noone would be more happy than me if Barry Ferguson came back bigger and better than ever, I just dont get over excited by an average performance by the most technically gifted footballer in Scotland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBlue 136 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 I wish I'd counted the number of "hospital passes" Brown, and in particular Hartley, played to Ferguson in the 1st half. I thought both were shockingly poor There was one from Hartley that was so bad, I wondered if it was deliberate to try and get him injured, but he's probably too thick. Provan just said "Ferguson caught on the ball" of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfc_no1fan 13 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I wish I'd counted the number of "hospital passes" Brown, and in particular Hartley, played to Ferguson in the 1st half. I thought both were shockingly poor There was one from Hartley that was so bad, I wondered if it was deliberate to try and get him injured, but he's probably too thick. Provan just said "Ferguson caught on the ball" of course Was a poor pass However, Barry asked and showed for the ball. He then stood still and waited for the pass and the Argentine player nipped in infront of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBlue 136 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 However, Barry asked and showed for the ball. He then stood still and waited for the pass and the Argentine player nipped in infront of him Sorry - should have realised it was Ferguson's fault rather than Hartley's for taking so long to make the pass. You were slagging Ferguson off pretty early in the game, you know (check your posts) - I doubt he could ever have had a decent game in your eyes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 i thought barry played well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_glasgow 2 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Barry was the best scotland player by a country mile taking the ball spraying passes finding players only one who looked ablt to compete with the Argies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radlord 24 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I can't believe you all sat through all of that. I fucking hate it when a much superior team clearly switches off completely and just leaves us to chase shadows for the rest of the game, occasionally stumbling into a goalscoring opportunity where one of our big diddies up front just skill-lessly scuffs it round the post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wreckedroy 33 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Barry was the best scotland player by a country mile taking the ball spraying passes finding players only one who looked ablt to compete with the Argies He did look a class apart from the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wreckedroy 33 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I can't believe you all sat through all of that. I fucking hate it when a much superior team clearly switches off completely and just leaves us to chase shadows for the rest of the game, occasionally stumbling into a goalscoring opportunity where one of our big diddies up front just skill-lessly scuffs it round the post. I watched it at work, and it was either the Scotland game or hard work. Which would you choose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_glasgow 2 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Barry was the best scotland player by a country mile taking the ball spraying passes finding players only one who looked ablt to compete with the Argies He did look a class apart from the rest. if he plays like against the sheep violaters then we rocking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
radlord 24 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I watched it at work, and it was either the Scotland game or hard work. Which would you choose? Better the devil you know. I'd watch the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosesMcNeil 1,664 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I felt Ferguson looked composed, and was easily the classiest Scot out there tonight. He had more than a decent game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfc_no1fan 13 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 However, Barry asked and showed for the ball. He then stood still and waited for the pass and the Argentine player nipped in infront of him Sorry - should have realised it was Ferguson's fault rather than Hartley's for taking so long to make the pass. You were slagging Ferguson off pretty early in the game, you know (check your posts) - I doubt he could ever have had a decent game in your eyes For the first 20 minutes he was AWOL and he lost his man for the goal. So I posted that, truth hurts. Then he had a 5-10 minute spell in the game (Which I also posted) Then I posted at the end of the game saying he was average Barry hasnt had a really good game for Rangers since Werder Bremen at home in the UEFA Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaguy51 912 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Trying to figure out how Paul Hartley is considered as Scotland's 'premier' defensive mid leaves my brain aching. Even a fit Thomson didn't get a look in, but he's at least 2 leagues above Hartley. Is Burley afraid to pick a Fergie/Thommo midfield in case it's too proddy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muff 245 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Brown, Hartley and Robson might be shite for Scotland but they seem to do a decent enough job for celtc and that's all that bothers me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfc_no1fan 13 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Trying to figure out how Paul Hartley is considered as Scotland's 'premier' defensive mid leaves my brain aching. Even a fit Thomson didn't get a look in, but he's at least 2 leagues above Hartley. Is Burley afraid to pick a Fergie/Thommo midfield in case it's too proddy? Hartley was the defensive midfielder, yet Barry spent the first half 10 yards behind him. The only way Barry could get on the ball was to drop deeper and deeper into areas where Argentina werent pressing the ball. Anytime Barry got beyond the half way line, Argentina crowded him out or offered him the square pass or the backwards pass. I expect more of Barry, if he head and shoulders above any other Scotland player and didnt look out of place against the Argies, how could he not get forward a bit more, into more threatening areas of the field where his passing ability could be used to create something in the final third. Being neat and tidy on the half way line or in our own half isnt good enough and isnt going to get the job done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gronaldo 38 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Brown, Hartley and Robson might be shite for Scotland but they seem to do a decent enough job for celtc and that's all that bothers me. Maybe Robson and Brown, but I honestly have no idea why Hartley is still highly rated amongst some people (including the manager of our national team it seems). He'd probably be great in a game of five a sides, but he's far too slow both in terms of his actual pace and with respects to his decisionmaking to be effective anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chookes 21 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Hartley is an average footballer, at best. He was woeful tonight and watch next time he has to make a pass over 10 yards, he has to take a run up. Brown is definitely the most talented out of the three Celtc midfielders but struggles to do anything at right wing. Why he wasn't holding instead of Hartley and freeing up that right wing for someone who can do something at right wing baffles me. Personally, I'd have Ferguson and Thommo in the centre. But with Thommo and Fletcher out, Brown should have been in beside Ferguson. Hartley is nowhere near international class. I thought Barry had a good run out. He looked completely composed on the ball, some glimpses of old Barry. I have a question though, how long does a player take to get his match fitness back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Trying to figure out how Paul Hartley is considered as Scotland's 'premier' defensive mid leaves my brain aching. Even a fit Thomson didn't get a look in, but he's at least 2 leagues above Hartley. Is Burley afraid to pick a Fergie/Thommo midfield in case it's too proddy? Hartley was the defensive midfielder, yet Barry spent the first half 10 yards behind him. The only way Barry could get on the ball was to drop deeper and deeper into areas where Argentina werent pressing the ball. Anytime Barry got beyond the half way line, Argentina crowded him out or offered him the square pass or the backwards pass. I expect more of Barry, if he head and shoulders above any other Scotland player and didnt look out of place against the Argies, how could he not get forward a bit more, into more threatening areas of the field where his passing ability could be used to create something in the final third. Being neat and tidy on the half way line or in our own half isnt good enough and isnt going to get the job done. Very much agree. We all are looking for the best of Barry, but its not there yet by a long way and its been a long time since it was last seen. He was no worse than any of the other players, but a long way short of having any influence on the game and that's what you expect from Barry. The last two SPL games he's not been influential nor even fully fit so this was not unexpected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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