Am I watching a different game

[Big Al 55 9,252]

42 minutes ago, thegambler said:

Agree that Brown's elbow wasn't even an elbow and nowhere near as bad as some are making it out to be. Pedro confronting any player at half time when he's got more pressing things to concentrate on is unprofessional as fuck. 

 

The penalty was undoubtedly 100% a penalty though. I thought the same as you when I first saw it, but the replays show there was no contact with the ball by the defender. 

There was no contact with the player either. Defender pulled out of the challenge. The way people are talking about it being a stone walker has me questioning if I missed it entirely and I'm thinking of different I incident. I'm surprised he wasn't booked actually.

Don't care about elbow or Pedro's response to it. He didn't have a replay to look at.

[ForeverBlue1872 463]

not a penalty ? you're tuned to the moon ya cunt.

[thegambler 61]

Just now, Big Al II said:

There was no contact with the player either. Defender pulled out of the challenge. The way people are talking about it being a stone walker has me questioning if I missed it entirely and I'm thinking of different I incident. I'm surprised he wasn't booked actually.

Don't care about elbow or Pedro's response to it. He didn't have a replay to look at 

Will watch it again later and see as you could be right. 

 

Re. Pedro, it's just stupid for a manager to confront an opposition player at half time for a perceived injustice. Especially when it's still 0-0 and he's got a job to do. Just my view on it. 

[Ger_onimo 20,488]

2 minutes ago, Big Al II said:

There was no contact with the player either. Defender pulled out of the challenge. The way people are talking about it being a stone walker has me questioning if I missed it entirely and I'm thinking of different I incident. I'm surprised he wasn't booked actually.

Don't care about elbow or Pedro's response to it. He didn't have a replay to look at.

He was blocking his path with his foot on the floor and his knee at a right angle. As Walker said (I feel dirty), it was too big an obstacle for him to avoid without going over.

[MurrayWilson 3,393]

A strange assessment with regards to mccrories display. Just about everyone I spoke to after the game thought he had a very good game, easily our best player, made a couple of excellent tackles in the first half especially. Its clear to see that if he carries in in this way then he will have a big future.I think youre at it.

[wishawbear87 116]

The thing with the brown incident is this prick gets away with it time and time again,done it deliberatley against jason holt at the piggery in march nuthin done,aginst miller at ibrox in april nuhn done  then sat again nuhn done so i can understand why pedros upset,100 per cent penalty simunovic never got a touch to the ball,as for there corners outside the arc,if that was us there would be  public outcry

[Ger_onimo 20,488]

I would also say, all of the issues mentioned by the OP are a distraction from the main issue, namely that they are much, much better than us. Even if those decisions had gone our way, I don't think we'd have won.

[LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510]

Either full of shite or just trying too hard to be different.

[Big Al 55 9,252]

6 minutes ago, Ger_onimo said:

He was blocking his path with his foot on the floor and his knee at a right angle. As Walker said (I feel dirty), it was too big an obstacle for him to avoid without going over.

Fair enough not how I saw it. Thought was a penalty when first saw it. Replays were all very clear to me, the player pulled out of the challenge and Morelos went down, all with no contact whatsoever. 

If with beer, blue tinted goggles I cant even say it's a penalty then it's hardly a stone waller.

IMO the wee man dived and was lucky not to get booked.

Funny how we see it differently.

[thegambler 61]

7 minutes ago, wishawbear87 said:

The thing with the brown incident is this prick gets away with it time and time again,done it deliberatley against jason holt at the piggery in march nuthin done,aginst miller at ibrox in april nuhn done  then sat again nuhn done so i can understand why pedros upset,100 per cent penalty simunovic never got a touch to the ball,as for there corners outside the arc,if that was us there would be  public outcry

The corners were within the rules though. As long as there's any part of the ball, even if it's overhanging, level with the quadrant, it's permissible. 

[NixonRFC 1,333]

45 minutes ago, jim beam said:

None of them had a particularly good game in all honesty,.these type of threads will depressingly be the norm everytime we play them.

Some will see things differently to others but at the end of a game and particularly an old firm game some will look with a critical eye and some will just shout No Surrender until our next old firm defeat and then repeat.

I read an article yesterday, cant remember who it was from but they said something like "Old Firm games are now such a non event that they're akin to them vs Aberdeen/Hearts etc... occassionally we'll bloody their nose but on the whole they should win 8/9 times out of 10"

 

Utterly depressing but hard to disagree with anything other than blind hope.

[born a blue nose 90,771]

6 minutes ago, thegambler said:

The corners were within the rules though. As long as there's any part of the ball, even if it's overhanging, level with the quadrant, it's permissible. 

On one I remember perfectly the ball was about 8 inches outside the outer most line 

Everyone knows the rules of the game mate 

[Bristoe1872 2,551]

1 hour ago, stewaj3 said:

I just look at opinions on here and mines differ so much for most of the key incidents.

Browns elbow, nothing in it for me. I hate him, but this happens every week and it's nothing.

Caixinha on brown, an embarrassment, ran out of ideas and has lost the plot.

The penalty appeal, never a penalty referee got it 100 per cent right. I didn't even think for a second that it was. Can understand if u were at the game you might think differently. On TV I thought he clearly got the ball.

Ross mccrorie's performance, average at best could have done better at both goals. Not the worst of our problems.

 

Nae bother Declan. 

[thegambler 61]

2 minutes ago, born a blue nose said:

On one I remember perfectly the ball was about 8 inches outside the outer most line 

Everyone knows the rules of the game mate 

Fair enough. I don't remember that one but will take your word for it.

[jim beam 2,188]

2 minutes ago, NixonRFC said:

I read an article yesterday, cant remember who it was from but they said something like "Old Firm games are now such a non event that they're akin to them vs Aberdeen/Hearts etc... occassionally we'll bloody their nose but on the whole they should win 8/9 times out of 10"

 

Utterly depressing but hard to disagree with anything other than blind hope.

Yip,that's how I'm feeling just now,can't see any way out of this mire except for serious money being spent on the management and quality players otherwise at the rate we are going we will be celebrating beating the sheep into second.and that thought is utterly utterly depressing.

[GWR1979 1,964]

Penalty was a penalty. He moved his knee which infringed Morelos and meant he couldn't keep his footing.

Elbow never connected but he should have been sent off for the intent and for the fact he has done it in the last 3 old firm games. 

Pedro squaring up to Brown is embarrassing and up there with his watp  comments in that post match interview. 

[born a blue nose 90,771]

Some of the grand national horses would struggle to get over that penalty tackle without making contact and going to ground 

I am perplexed at people defending in what planet do you live on man 

[hammer93 15,057]

43 minutes ago, RFC RYAN said:

There was one in the first half the linesman gave them a corner and the ball was no where near hitting McCrorie. 

I think it was Roberts and he sliced it out the park and won a corner for it?

[five stars 1,621]

He clearly did not get the ball.

Brown has previous, he elbowed Miller in the last game at Ibrox and Holt in a game before that. He knows exactly what he's doing and should of got a yellow card on each of these occasions.

[soulboy 2,518]

2 hours ago, stewaj3 said:

I just look at opinions on here and mines differ so much for most of the key incidents.

Browns elbow, nothing in it for me. I hate him, but this happens every week and it's nothing.

Caixinha on brown, an embarrassment, ran out of ideas and has lost the plot.

The penalty appeal, never a penalty referee got it 100 per cent right. I didn't even think for a second that it was. Can understand if u were at the game you might think differently. On TV I thought he clearly got the ball.

Ross mccrorie's performance, average at best could have done better at both goals. Not the worst of our problems.

 

Fuck off you clown he didn't touch the ball he pulled out of the tackle but the hurdle was too high for Morelos to get over. Even that rhabid cunt walker said it was a pen.

[Jimfanciesthedude 24,545]

2 hours ago, stewaj3 said:

Nice to have a discussion unlike the fannies above.

Having watched the replay of the penalty it doesn't look like he got the ball. I'll stand corrected there. Not seeing anything in the rest

browns elbow is still a hell of a lot more dangerous than what ryan jack was sent off for against hibs, and miles worse than the morelos flick against thistle that scottish football was howling about

but its brown, nothing can and will be done against him

[Camshy 812]

Pretty much agree except for the penalty, letter of the law its a pen. If you dont get the ball, he didnt, and touch the player, he did, then it simply has to be a penalty. Doesnt matter if Morelis initiates the touch and makes the most of it.

 

For me the biggest issue is how Pedro set the team up and motivated the players. Brow was yet again allowed to control the tempo of the game for them as we sat way way off them. First half was better due to Pena being closer to him but once he came off we were far more negative.

[RFC Eagle 4,888]

20 minutes ago, thegambler said:

The corners were within the rules though. As long as there's any part of the ball, even if it's overhanging, level with the quadrant, it's permissible. 

Thats not the case the ball must be touching the line as a minimum. Overhanging is not permissible. The law states 'the ball must be placed in the area'. I've seen the ball moved to the correct position by many refs over the years.

[DennyBlueNose 652]

2 hours ago, stewaj3 said:

Nice to have a discussion unlike the fannies above.

Having watched the replay of the penalty it doesn't look like he got the ball. I'll stand corrected there. Not seeing anything in the rest

Only time you'll be under any fanny unless it's yer auld dears 

[cushynumber 25,178]

Browns elbow, nothing in it for me. I hate him, but this happens every week and it's nothing. - AGREE

Caixinha on brown, an embarrassment, ran out of ideas and has lost the plot. - MIXED FEELINGS

The penalty appeal, never a penalty referee got it 100 per cent right. I didn't even think for a second that it was. Can understand if u were at the game you might think differently. On TV I thought he clearly got the ball. - 100% a PENALTY

Ross mccrorie's performance, average at best could have done better at both goals. Not the worst of our problems. GIVEN ITS HIS FIRST START I THOUGHT HE WAS GREAT. I FELT  HE COULD HAVE SEEN THE RUN AND COVERED BETTER