We want Dembele money for Morelos - Robertson

[KingKirk 25,647]

Morelos being sold for 25million will give us the cash to sign 3/4 top quality players that will help win 55 next season.

I expect the manager to be handed a initial kitty from the board then player sales on top of that so I think we are looking at a 20+million" warchest" for the gaffer this summer  

[Rum Ham 2,059]

1 hour ago, KingKirk said:

Morelos being sold for 25million will give us the cash to sign 3/4 top quality players that will help win 55 next season.

I expect the manager to be handed a initial kitty from the board then player sales on top of that so I think we are looking at a 20+million" warchest" for the gaffer this summer  

You're off your head if you think we're spending whatever we get for Morelos (+) all on transfer fees. 

How much are the 4 ,3-5 million, players going to cost in wages? 

Say we did blow it all in one window, plus the extra on the wage bill, what would happen if they turned out to be overpriced and failed? 

Surely signing a player for 1 million, who has been our best player the past two season (along with a couple of other we have signed for buttons in comparison), and selling him for a massive profit, should be what we look for now. 

In today's market there is little difference between 500k-1million players and 3-5million players. A lot of the signings we have made over the past few years is enough evidence to back that. 

 

 

[The Ghost 431]

7 hours ago, JCDBigBear said:

Did Dembele not score against poor players in a poor league and his value went up from approx £5 m to £20m.   Morelos has scored some absolute crackers and none of his goals were penalties or free kicks.   Same age as Dembele with a better scoring record.

Dembele did, his price was inflated and he’s done nothing since. Dembele did score more high profile goals which probably helped but hopefully the same increase in value will apply to Alfredo after the recent media hype and speculation.

[The Ghost 431]

7 hours ago, Leeds_Bear said:

He’s perhaps one of the cleanest strikers of the ball I’ve seen in this league out with Rogic. He blasts it past keepers from all angles. 

He is not a consistent clean striker. Defoe is streets ahead of him in that respect. It’s a pity he’s lost too much pace over the last couple of years as this restricts the goal scoring positions he can get into and the opportunities that would arise.

[The Specky Forum Organiser 64,730]

8 hours ago, JCDBigBear said:

Dembele went from our league for nearly £20m.     Dembele's value went up in our league because the Parkhead mob talk up the value of their players whilst people like talk down the value of our own players.   The point isn't about our league it is about the quality of our player.

You're naive as fuck if you dont think the league comes into it

[magic8ball 27,901]

3 minutes ago, Jeffrey said:

You're naive as fuck if you dont think the league comes into it

Waghorn 100pc proves your correct .there are many others who's value has rocketed the minute they move 

[The Dude 20,026]

13 minutes ago, magic8ball said:

Waghorn 100pc proves your correct .there are many others who's value has rocketed the minute they move 

I disagree Waghorn proves it correct. He went at the price we offered him to clubs at. Nobody was going to offer 5m quid when we were only asking them for one. 

[Smile 26,610]

I think he will struggle in a better league as he lacks pace and if he goes to the EPL he will be up against bigger better defenders, but I still think we will do really well when he does go. time is on his side to improve his game and get better.

[Amato 3,016]

6 hours ago, Rum Ham said:

You're off your head if you think we're spending whatever we get for Morelos (+) all on transfer fees. 

How much are the 4 ,3-5 million, players going to cost in wages? 

Say we did blow it all in one window, plus the extra on the wage bill, what would happen if they turned out to be overpriced and failed? 

Surely signing a player for 1 million, who has been our best player the past two season (along with a couple of other we have signed for buttons in comparison), and selling him for a massive profit, should be what we look for now. 

In today's market there is little difference between 500k-1million players and 3-5million players. A lot of the signings we have made over the past few years is enough evidence to back that. 

 

 

Tend to agree. Look at the money we've blown on the likes of Garner and Grezda. And how much would we pay to get Worrall permanently? Multi-millions. 

A few million in today's transfer market is virtually the same as nothing to teams in the big leagues (or English Championship)

[KeyserSoze 14,545]

9 hours ago, JCDBigBear said:

Dembele went from our league for nearly £20m.     Dembele's value went up in our league because the Parkhead mob talk up the value of their players whilst people like talk down the value of our own players.   The point isn't about our league it is about the quality of our player.

If it’s not about the league then why did HJK cream themselves at £1m for the sale of that league’s top scorer? With it’s average attendances about 7k and very little interest outside Finland  

Adversely, mediocre players can be swung around the EPL for fortunes, just because it’s the EPL  

 

[magic8ball 27,901]

32 minutes ago, The Dude said:

I disagree Waghorn proves it correct. He went at the price we offered him to clubs at. Nobody was going to offer 5m quid when we were only asking them for one. 

He may have been worth more than 1m at the time .But it was highly unlikely we would have got even as much as 2m .There were bears on here willing to pay his taxi to get rid .

Don't think many bears would have ever thought he would be moving for 8m after he left 

[BlueSuedeSambas 53,789]

1 hour ago, Jeffrey said:

You're naive as fuck if you dont think the league comes into it

I think people overstate this. Do people really believe that a club like Lyon paid 20 million for a player just because celtic had some friend of the club at the Daily Record write articles bigging him up?

 

[sausagetrunks 6,022]

23 minutes ago, magic8ball said:

He may have been worth more than 1m at the time .But it was highly unlikely we would have got even as much as 2m .There were bears on here willing to pay his taxi to get rid .

Don't think many bears would have ever thought he would be moving for 8m after he left 

same as Morelos, people would have paid his taxi fair lol

[magic8ball 27,901]

4 minutes ago, sausagetrunks said:

same as Morelos, people would have paid his taxi fair lol

True even in August folk wanted rid .Didn't agree with that at all .Even in season 1 with us he was a player  .The goal drought towards the end of 2017 and the loss form that the whole team had at end of the season clouded the waters as far as Morelos is concerned 

[The Dude 20,026]

34 minutes ago, magic8ball said:

He may have been worth more than 1m at the time .But it was highly unlikely we would have got even as much as 2m .There were bears on here willing to pay his taxi to get rid .

Don't think many bears would have ever thought he would be moving for 8m after he left 

In all honesty, I wouldnt pay the least bit of attention to what fans want when it comes to transfers. There's fans who wanted to chase Morelos last January and then again in the summer.

 

[The Dude 20,026]

12 minutes ago, DBBTB said:

I think people overstate this. Do people really believe that a club like Lyon paid 20 million for a player just because celtic had some friend of the club at the Daily Record write articles bigging him up?

 

We're sorted then 😂

https://www.BOYCOTT THIS LINK/sport/football/football-news/Rangers-striker-alfredo-morelos-better-13162814

[magic8ball 27,901]

13 minutes ago, The Dude said:

In all honesty, I wouldnt pay the least bit of attention to what fans want when it comes to transfers. There's fans who wanted to chase Morelos last January and then again in the summer.

 

Knee-jerk reaction .the worst of the countries traits .

Can remember being at games in the 90s were the odd .get that Laudrup aye fuck shout could be heard 😂

[graeme_4 34,527]

For context, Maddison scored 2 in 15 at Aberdeen and then 15 in 47 for Norwich in the Championship over two seasons. Then went to Leicester for £22m. 

Cunts willing to accept £12m need their head examined. Still living in the 90s when £10m was a huge sum. £22m is pocket change for the EPL, and others for that matter. 

[The Dude 20,026]

4 minutes ago, graeme_4 said:

For context, Maddison scored 2 in 15 at Aberdeen and then 15 in 47 for Norwich in the Championship over two seasons. Then went to Leicester for £22m. 

Cunts willing to accept £12m need their head examined. Still living in the 90s when £10m was a huge sum. £22m is pocket change for the EPL, and others for that matter. 

I think that's what folk don't get. £20m is the sort of fee English side's pay on a gamble now. While we might expect the lovechild of Laudrup and Baxter for that sort of cash, PL sides think nothing of spending 20m on a player who might barely kick his own arse for them.

[graeme_4 34,527]

9 minutes ago, The Dude said:

I think that's what folk don't get. £20m is the sort of fee English side's pay on a gamble now. While we might expect the lovechild of Laudrup and Baxter for that sort of cash, PL sides think nothing of spending 20m on a player who might barely kick his own arse for them.

Exactly.

’Worth’ is in the eye of the bidder. The amount of £10-20m punts that people probably haven’t even heard of in the English leagues is frightening. 

[TheKingObv 10,646]

26 minutes ago, graeme_4 said:

For context, Maddison scored 2 in 15 at Aberdeen and then 15 in 47 for Norwich in the Championship over two seasons. Then went to Leicester for £22m. 

Cunts willing to accept £12m need their head examined. Still living in the 90s when £10m was a huge sum. £22m is pocket change for the EPL, and others for that matter. 

Why are you giving a midfielder's goal stats?

[The Dude 20,026]

16 minutes ago, graeme_4 said:

Exactly.

’Worth’ is in the eye of the bidder. The amount of £10-20m punts that people probably haven’t even heard of in the English leagues is frightening. 

Real Madrid spent 15m on Brahim Diaz who had played a grand total of 414 minutes in his senior career.

Angus Gunn cost 10m

United spent 20m on Dalot

20m on Solanke

60m on Pulisic.

Ben Fucking Gibson cost 15m.

35m on Richarlison

The whole thing's mental down there with cash. 20m for Morelos is probably a fair estimate

[graeme_4 34,527]

11 minutes ago, TheKingObv said:

Why are you giving a midfielder's goal stats?

Plays as a 10 / second striker more than a winger. 

And regardless of stats, he’s an perfect example of someone played in our league recently and who isn’t half the player Morelos, but goes for £20m plus. 

[Colin Traive 22,779]

Danny Drinkwater at Chelsea.

One good season at Leicester, signed for 35m.

He is on 100,000 per week since signing nearly two years ago.

Just turned 29, he did not play a single game as a 28 year old. Think about that and just let that sink in for a moment.

Current cost to Chelsea around 45m. Approx 3.75m per appearance.

They have more money than sense down there and a young Colombian international, top scorer by a distance despite injuries and suspensions, who has demonstrated his ability to adapt to different leagues, deserves to open the bidding at 20m all day long.

[BlueSuedeSambas 53,789]

 

People can mention as many examples of excessive money in the Premier League as they want but ultimately there is still a totem pole and Morelos plays in a weak SPFL, has never scored against celtic and hasn’t ever played in the champions league.

Us saying that Morelos should go for the sort of money that players within England move for just because players in England move for daft amounts would be like Ayr saying Shankland should be worth the same as Morelos because they have similar scoring records even though one has done it at a higher level and the other hasn’t.

Obviously I hope we get 20 million for him, but it’s by no means a guarantee.