TheBoyDave

Work hard as a team believe in your ability and be positive.Tactically speaking its things like players staying alert and patient not making rash or low percentage decisions.

Feeling disappointed and frustrated by the result the overall performance of most of the players and how we could not get the win against the 10 men.Having two league wins and a draw before the game despite playing below the level we should I was treating as a positive despite the opposition being some of the weaker teams.Injuries to Wilson and Dodoo did not help and we have been unfortunate that some other talents are injured in Waghorn,Holt,Windass and Crooks.I think the referee was as shit as we were and if we played with intensity the referee would not have mattered.I fully expected us to win but after a bright start we faded bad and it is worrying we have to concede soft goals and substitute players to spark players into action. I had hoped when Joe Dodoo went off we would have stuck MOH on rather than moving Miller wide.This is no slight on Garner who is new and will need to gel with our players.I am all for versatility in players but honestly think younger pacey wide players would have been more effective than Miller.We still have a good squad,need a solid defender though and I think Barton will come good also.Rossiter having a quieter game is in part being a younger player playing alongside new teammates who are not performing.The signing of Clint Hill does not look a good one although it is early days still but has had shaky start In theory signing Hill was to bring presence,effort calmness and experience to our defence but it does not look like it has.When Mark Warburton finds the correct balance and most of the players perform as they should we will batter most of our opposition.Gutted we could not exert some early pressure on Celtic by winning these 4 games and building momentum.No surrender spirit needed from the players if opposition raise their game against us or play defensive our job is to raise our level and overcome their tactics.

No doubt would you mind sending me the Erskine link having difficulty finding it(I know with all your post as well)lol.

Cheers govanblue come to think about it I feel a Erskine donation coming on,my gran helped them a lot and got Mbe for her charity work.

Shame the youngsters lost I however hope they can learn from this and with the new coaching set up work to develop.I have faith the results will come with time and patience and there are no quick fixes.The proof as others say will be years down the line when we see makes the step up to establish themselves in the first team.

Interesting topic and had I not had the experience of having no food I most likely would have agreed with some of the posters who have little sympathy.My own personal experience involved me losing my job(through no fault of my own) this was not long after being evicted from my home because my mum was not paying bills even though I more than paid my way.To compound this I had taken a loan to pay the outstanding bills and worked lots of overtime to pay off the loan quickly on top of costs finding a new home.When I lost my job I applied for lots of jobs and got a new one in weeks,however it was to be fulltime but the employer moved the goal posts and only gave half the hours.I still had bills that required fulltime wages and gradually was losing the little money I had maxing out my overdraft(paying lots of bank charges) and struggling to pay rent on time.One time when my brother visited me he seen I had no food in the house and that I had being buying Tesco value everything from my shopping lists and receipts.My brother who did not let on to what he had seen went out and bought me 2 bags of shopping and not cheap own brand stuff and I would not have cared if it was.It sounds funny to say as it was possibly £10-£15 worth of shopping but it was an amazing kindness to me.I could go to work and apply for new jobs not worrying where next meal is coming from, my performance at work increased as I was not so stressed.In about a month after this I proved myself at work and got made permanent staff and full time hours.I also became a lot better at managing my finances and was able to save for mortgage.This bad experience for me had been turned around and really changed my outlook on life.I was not a drinker or smoker or gambler as even if I wanted to be I could not have afforded it.The point I am trying to make is although there are scroungers and those that work the system there are also genuine people and it really will make a difference to them.I have never used a foodbank personally but I am more than happy to donate.It is good to be cynical but it is not the full picture.We should not have to have foodbanks but please give if you can.

I hear Nicky Clark is a good striker he scored 41 goals in 46 appearances for Queen of the south a few seasons ago and he is younger than Garner,Warburton oot.

I have some of the same worries as other members of the forum about the goal ratio of Garner.If we were cash rich we could buy expensive signings that are the complete article but we have to spend wisely.Some previous signings that we have made such as Holt,Waghorn,Tavernier,Forrester seemed underwhelming but have performed great.Garner could be a key player and I will not be writing him off before he has even kicked a ball for us.

My favourite Rangers player growing up because of his will to win and he is Rangers through and through.Ian Ferguson had decent ability but his work rate and determination made him way better than his ability alone.I hope Joey Barton brings this sort of desire to our team as it is needed and if he is getting stuck in the other players will follow suit.

Not that you had too but thanks for explaining.I do read a good amount of posts on here although I do not always sign in to post.Totally makes sense if you did not see all of game.I honestly think if shoe was on the other foot and our fans attacked Hibs players our players would condemn the fans who did it and enquiry about wellbeing of the assaulted.

I agree with what you are saying 100% very quiet when the big bad Rangers are the wronged party.In a topic you yourself posted in you were condemning the Rangers fans that went on the pitch and granted not as much info was available at the time.I may be wrongly projecting this on to you and its nothing personal you are a sensible and decent poster on here but you had the Rangers fans guilty as charged and I think partly the constant negative media portrayal can even give Rangers fans this mindset to a degree never mind the neutrals.Not an attack on you just my observation.

Just Juan Guy again he is always to blame.Pretty sad behaviour but not surpising,Hibs may try to pass the buck here.

Despite the disappointment of losing the game(and I am over it now) certain things have helped such as our club statements, guys like Andy Walker Chris Sutton and Tam Cowan condemning what happened and also the bravery of the referee and his officials.If we had won I doubt there would be the same trouble as likely not as many Scummy Hibs fans would have went on to the pitch.The match officials deserve to be commended good guys.

Great statement and also likely to be very in touch with the thoughts and feelings of the vast majority of our fans.I am glad we are speaking out and not allowing this to be swept under the carpet.

I am sure William Hill(sponsors of the cup) would not have been pleased if trophy was not presented however if they chose to break or end their sponsorship contract due to this we may see some serious action as money talks.Will probably be soft punishment and sweep sweep for Hibs move along nothing to see.

Probably like most Rangers fans I find him biased in his commentary and it is not exactly hidden however when somebody who I suspect is a Rangers hater takes off the blinkers and tells the truth it goes to show how bad the scenes were."We are Rangers super Rangers no one likes us" seems to be massive understatement certainly in Scottish football.

We were far from our best today but at 2-1 should have seen it out we didn't and set pieces(and the ability to not defend them) were our undoing.A stronger bench certainly would have helped.I still have faith and we will see what players we sign and how we play come the new season.

I am not happy that we got promoted with ease.Winning the Petrofac was decent also.The attacking play and scoring in all but 2 games(Killie and Livingston) is pleasing.There is work to be done and we do need to strengthen.If players are injured,suspended or cup tied our bench is weak and when we use substitutions they can weaken us also.Before a ball was kicked I would have been delighted with what we have achieved.Today was a big opportunity missed and I am annoyed but I will not dwell on it too long.We have no divine right to win games.At 2-1 we should see it out.It is a shame missing out on euro run although I hope this is used to spur us on next season and funds are made available to get better quality throughout the team.

Hibs won the game and the actions did not affect the outcome.The behaviour of the Hibs fans is rather scummy and should result in fines,bans for pitch invaders and likely jail time for any that assaulted players staff and rival fans.Trying to put myself in the Hibs fans shoes if had not won the trophy for 114 years would celebrate but pitch invasion is ott and assaulting people ffs you won I do not understand why they would react that way.

To answer the op yes there may be a need to pay big transfer fees although that may not be at the present.Paying the fee may be the difference between getting the players who make you succeed and those who do not.Although the fee does not guarantee a player will succeed it usually is a good indication of a players ability(although some markets are overpriced).If we get our model right if we are shrewd with our signings it may help us push the boat out on the players that give us that extra quality and help us get to a higher level.If we plateau we may need to pay more.The flip side is true also just because a club is cash rich they do not always need to pay a high fee to get a good player.More of our signings likely will be players that are deemed good value for money but we should not discount paying a higher fee.

I would have liked to get this signing but we did not succeed I will not be getting upset about this. Iwould like us to get a more defensive minded midfielder though.

Good game need a good spec pc for it or it can lag badly can lose track of time with it.

Feel bad For Condit he should have won I like both fighters but can only give rounds 2 and 5 to Robbie at best.

Welcome Harry, I trust Mark Warburton's judgement and feel that he will believe in you and get the best out of you.This is a big opportunity give your best and I am sure you can be part of something special and be here longer than the initial 6 months, all the best.

Templeton had or has the talent and potential and I thought he was what we needed a creative young(ish) player.Injuries non selection and form have hampered him and he is probably on his last chance to make any impression.We deserved to get Holt cheap because we overpaid for what he have got with Templeton thus far.