James Rolle

I hope Morelos never pulls on our jersey again. 

Would have been a stronger (and more valuable) contribution if Gerrard had included himself in the fine.
Why?   Whilst the player continues to prove he is a liability and does not listen to the advice / instruction he's been given, its arguably clear enough also that the management and coaching of the player has not been effective enough...…..for if it had been the player would have absorbed the strength and purpose of the message and adjusted his game to show he had learned.    Its as much a failure of management as it is a personal failing in the player.
Besides which, a fine after the event is one thing but if the player had been told beforehand that he loses money if he fails to respond to management direction / coaching would it have made any difference?    
A fine is just a gesture.     If Gerrard thinks that withholding a weeks wages is somehow going to galvanise the player to mending his ways then I think he is very mistaken.   Gerrard is simply proving to the football world that he has an unmanageable player and that as a manager he does not have the skills, influence, know-how to manage an unmanageable player.   One of the 2 will have to go for next season and my bet is it will be Morelos.     

I would let Morelos go, but not Tavernier, despite the mistake he was instrumental in the goal and should have had a penalty. We need three new midfielders who can score goals.

If you can't represent the club in the correct manner then stay in the fuc*ing house. Not saying this boy is guilty but seats were thrown and the culprits behaviour is not Rangers class.

The expectation is that Alfredo will be gone this coming summer. His lifetime ambition is to play in the EPL which you couldn't blame any aspiring player for.
He would realise his goal and we would hopefully earn enough from the sale to fund several players of quality that we badly need to make a serious challenge.
The downside is we lose our best player and his goals. We lose a player who imo has much  more to come out of his locker as he matures and grows. We also lose a player with a big heart and a personality to match. Despite all the detractors bemoaning his so called "petulance" as an excuse to demonise him and the club he plays for, there is not a bad bone n his body. He just loves going out there and doing his thing. He revels in the sport he loves.
Quite simply the haters in this midden have put a target on his back and are conspiring to destroy him. Clubfoot epitomises that mentality. What is being done to Alfredo is as cynical and sinister as it is cowardly. It is imo better that he moves away as his development is now being stunted here and he would flourish and reach his full potential in a league where football is the game and not hatred. He deserves no less. We could also say, that if he does go, the haters have won, but have they? 
On the football front, we appear to have a one dimensional approach as to a game plan, in get the ball to Alfredo. IMO we do not always do that too well, in being rather ponderous and predictable in too many games and many of his goals have been through his own selfless work ethic. When he isn't at it, we do struggle with alternatives and no plan B. Whilst we have witnessed some sterling performances as a team, the consistency isn't there as we all know and Alfredo cannot play well in every game even if he gets through the hammer throwers after being kicked up and down the park. He is only human after all.
So what IF no Alfredo? Firstly there are not many strikers out there of his style and tenacity that could replace him. I also doubt many would put up with the shite he has. If a target is put on a new strikers back, I hazard to guess he would indeed fall foul of many reds cards in taking retribution. This means our manager has to come with a new approach to our game plan and indeed show his worth as next season is make or break.
We need more goal scoring outlets than our main striker as the oppo are just snuff that position out for lack of a goal threat coming from elsewhere. We need options and a better quality of player to overcome the antifootball we face from many teams. We need to be more solid and less ponderous in defence. More creative in midfield. A higher tempo going forward and players that can deliver those cutting edge through balls. Better movement off the ball. Quick thinking, quick feet, better decision making. These qualities just don't exist in the current crop, but add 3/4 of that quality, the rest can fit into a system that delivers those consistent winnng performances. Given the resources, it is then up to Gerrard to develop that winnng system. Only on the sale of Alfredo can we have a chance of bringing in that desired quality. This summer we don't need wholesale player departure, but several of the desired quality and mentality coming in.
In conclusion, I say the sale of Alfredo liberates us from the current easy and lazy option of get the ball to Morelos which is all rather too predictiable and his absence would demand that the manager has to cme up with a better and more dynamic footballing solution to the very one dimensional approach that we now have. If he succeeds we lay waste to all before us. If he fails, we are in meltdown!

Yeah. It's not perfect, it's just much better.

Gazza but close call with a few others. Given the current team we have Gazza would have the most impact IMO

Jim Baxter

season's not over yet. we will finish within 10 points and I think we'll win the cup. We already reached the Europa group stage, so we're on track mate. 

Flanagan was free mate and served a purpose early season. better options now which is why he hasn't played. 

I can't comment tonight, just got home and distraught at that score. Were we that bad? All I know is that no one can call for Gerrard's head, it was always going to take a couple of years.

The league campaign was hanging on by a thread but clearly over after tonight which is really disappointing.
However there are signs that we can challenge next year if we wise up.
We played some really good stuff tonight but clearly lacking in the final third as has been shown all season.
We’ve had Warburton and Caixinha who weren’t given time so we must stick with Gerrard if we’ve any Hope next year to build on the positives we’ve had this year.
 

Good post....... pretty much sums up my feelings tonight.

Absolutely spot on and you're right that a proper title challenge needs funded properly and given our first half financials posted a profit for the first time in ages thanks to Gerrard getting us to the group stages of the Europa, we'll be in a better position to do that (with or without Morelos money). I think King and co will be pleased with what SG has achieved this season and will back him in the summer and I do think Gerrard is capable of signing the right players to do that. 

Fans were superb.  Cunts breaking seats are an embarrassment and the club ends up out of pocket --- want to battle hivees  go for them all the way would be with you if i wasn't too old    but ripping up seats  is childish 

Bold-ish, perhaps, but we should be beating Aberdeen and I'm confident we will. Then it's a one-off game against celtic - who we shouldn't fear anymore after our last showing against them. Anything can happen for sure, but  we have a good chance to get to a final which we'd be favourites to win if we can do a job on celtic Don't let tonight kid you, we'll be up for the remaining games and I think we'll be close in the end. I'm raging tonight, but one thing I don't do is throw my toys out the pram like some. I also believe 100% in Gerrard, and the board by the way. I'm sure we'll strengthen significantly in the summer and next season will be different - keep the faith. 

Bold-ish, perhaps, but we should be beating Aberdeen and I'm confident we will. Then it's a one-off game against celtic - who we shouldn't fear anymore after our last showing against them. Anything can happen for sure, but  we have a good chance to get to a final which we'd be favourites to win if we can do a job on celtic Don't let tonight kid you, we'll be up for the remaining games and I think we'll be close in the end. I'm raging tonight, but one thing I don't do is throw my toys out the pram like some. I also believe 100% in Gerrard, and the board by the way. I'm sure we'll strengthen significantly in the summer and next season will be different - keep the faith. 

If scouts were at the game looking at Morelos they’ll leave talking about Kamara. 

Thats no true mate. It's more comoetitive because other teams have made it competitive.
Kilmarnock are better than they ever have been with a good manager and a well organised team. We used to go to Rugby park as a formality knowing it was an easy game.
Hibs and Hearts have strenghtened also and as usual Aberdeen is a cup final tie everytime we play them. Not to mention teams like Livingston being a hard away tie for any team this season, certainly at the start of the season. 
 
The fact the tarriers may get another manager in next year is a positive for us. Rodgers like it or lump it was an incredible manager for them and a new manager coming in will have to adapt to Scottish football potentially.

Agreed it’s not solely gerrards fault and he has improved us significantly in less than a year but we need to face facts in certain positions. Candeias although hard working could be improved upon. Tavernier for a fact isn’t the best defender but is good going forward. Still our main assists shouldn’t be from a right back. Also believe we need a stronger captain. Morelos can’t be expected to get all the goals. Need another goal threat. If we had 1 we’d win a lot of drawn games. This being said things are a helluva lot better than 12 months ago and believe the manager will get things correct after the next transfer window (provid3d he gets the funds and targets correct). On side note kamara looks a bargain and also believe the taigs have a bigger rebuilding job than us in the summer. NS

Bold-ish, perhaps, but we should be beating Aberdeen and I'm confident we will. Then it's a one-off game against celtic - who we shouldn't fear anymore after our last showing against them. Anything can happen for sure, but  we have a good chance to get to a final which we'd be favourites to win if we can do a job on celtic Don't let tonight kid you, we'll be up for the remaining games and I think we'll be close in the end. I'm raging tonight, but one thing I don't do is throw my toys out the pram like some. I also believe 100% in Gerrard, and the board by the way. I'm sure we'll strengthen significantly in the summer and next season will be different - keep the faith. 

Sometimes we need to look at the bigger picture. Of course we wanted to challenge this season but realistically we should be setting expectations of a the manager coming in and making progress. And as painful as it is to drop points tonight, we have made progress under Gerrard.
* We lost 10 games last year. 9 the year before. We have lost only 4 this year.
* We conceded 44 goals last season....50 the season before. We have conceded only 21 this season.
Not to mention this league this year is far more competitive than the past seasons. And for the first time in years,i don't fear playing the bheasts.
So Gerrard has improved us. I think with some sqaud additions next year he can do it. We cant keep starting every season with a new manager. 

There has been a fair few games where Gerrard can take the blame but he is in no way responsible for tonight. The amount of chances we have had to kill teams off this season have been criminal. 
Honestly hope we keep Gerrard for the next 3 years. He is a born winner, you can’t change everything in one season. He has given us a Europa league group stage run, he has given us a victory over celtic. He is going to make mistakes in the same way that all managers do but he will honestly get it right given enough time. 
He has helped turn Morelos into a 15-20m pound player. It’s frustrating as fuck. But Gerrard needs the full backing from everyone and the board. 
Certain he will bring us a title in the next two and a bit years. 

Why would we choose to put in a release clause?
They literally don't benefit a selling club at all. Release clauses are always at the request of a player.

What happens if he plays against the sheep, doesn’t get booked but then gets booked against celtic? Does he miss the final or are disciplinaries scrapped for finals now?
Can’t remember if that’s in effect up her or not. 
 
Edit: To put in my two cents, I’d play from the start and take off as soon as the score looks good.