Allyourloyalleader 1 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Thought the outcome was due today or was that just a rumour ...what way will it go.your gut feeling bears ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky_ 893 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 i dont think its a s clear cut as a gulty or not guilty verdict.i think its a case of judges combing over every single trasnaction & associated documents, then deciding if they should have been taxed more than what they were, or if they are legit.i have a feeling that there is likely to be some payments deemed to be not exactly koshur and perhaps we will have a bill of about 4 or 5 million to the OldCo, which will be followed with a final sum/figure that the oldco was liable to HMRC for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stampyurie 203 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Its been imminent since fuck nos when. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz92 966 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 i have a feeling that there is likely to be some payments deemed to be not exactly koshur and perhaps we will have a bill of about 4 or 5 million to the OldCo, which will be followed with a final sum/figure that the oldco was liable to HMRC for.As in we'll have a bill to pay?If that's what you're saying, no we won't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
linfield1690 4,249 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 48 hours Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,288 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 5:55 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear78 96 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Think it will go against us dm could not wait to bail out and I think his urgency was about more than lloyds. I think he was not confident about the btc and he would know more about it than anyone. Just hope I'm wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Think it will go against us dm could not wait to bail out and I think his urgency was about more than lloyds. I think he was not confident about the btc and he would know more abount it than anyone. Just hope I'm wrong.I agree Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 If it was that clear cut either way it would have been done by now Gut feeling , we have won it ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre 1,663 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I was told it was today (was told on Wednesday it would be Thursday or friday) by someone very close to the decision so I expect it today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I hope it is today win or lose, good to finaly get this laid to rest, i can see us winning on the main points but being found guilty of something minor like paperwork being misfiled or some stupid shit just to try and save HMRCs face a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky_ 893 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 As in we'll have a bill to pay?If that's what you're saying, no we won't.no, i clearly stated that the liability will be served to the oldco. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,971 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 The BTC had little to do with Murray wanting to sell. RFC was up for sale some years before HMRC came knocking at the door. As for the more recent urgency to sell, that was brought on by MIH hitting troubled times and the Bank of Scotland (HBOS) coming under the governance of the more hard-line Lloyds. As for the result of the FTTT I hope it is postponed even longer. I would like to see what the SPL tribunal says before the result because that puts their panel in an awkward position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz92 966 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 no, i clearly stated that the liability will be served to the oldco.Which is now liquidated? Oldco no longer exists. They won't get any money out of it unless they individually pursue Murray. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerwilko 18 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Whatever the outcome its been a hell of a long time coming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,971 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Which is now liquidated? Oldco no longer exists. They won't get any money out of it unless they individually pursue Murray.Not liquidated yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz92 966 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Not liquidated yet.Well in the late stages of liquidation then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky_ 893 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Well in the late stages of liquidation then.no it's take, it will take years before all the debts are settled up and many court cases haven't even started yet.Greens £5.5m is roughly the current bank balance of oldco. There is a £25m lawsuit the oldco is initiating agaisnt Whytes lawyers. The claims against the OldCo still have to be settled in full - which is mainly the reason why TBTC is relevant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Think it will go against us dm could not wait to bail out and I think his urgency was about more than lloyds. I think he was not confident about the btc and he would know more abount it than anyone. Just hope I'm wrong.Why the sad face? It has no relevance to us now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Well in the late stages of liquidation then.No its not. Liquidators aren't enen in their post yet, D&P still control oldco. Paperwork yet to be lodged at court to begin liquidation process. D&P made this perfectly clear in their statement either yesterday or wednesday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Carpintero 546 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Well in the late stages of liquidation then.Hasn't it just started today? Apparently the process could take years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre 1,663 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I've just heard that rangers (oldco) and hmrc have had the outcome since last week but it's just not been publicly announced Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 5:55 If your talking about crackerjacker, then it's 5 to 5. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I've just heard that rangers (oldco) and hmrc have had the outcome since last week but it's just not been publicly announcedIf you know that much, then what was the final outcome mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,027 Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I've just heard that rangers (oldco) and hmrc have had the outcome since last week but it's just not been publicly announcedWe've been hearing that from 'people close to the decision' since LAST october. I'm calling shenanigans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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