ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 It should be surprising how many on here slam the club and back a player who was unheard of before we showed any interest...but it isn't.Not the 1st time it's happened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR1979 1,987 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 This has rumbled on for months, Not good for a signing target to be criticising the Club. Bit of a shambles TBH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Aye thats what Mather is telling Ally McCoist. And i never heard anything about Rangers offering this guy a deal. I read that their could be a simliar offer on the table for Pandaza.Its been quoted many times from Rangers.co.uk and reproduced in mhedia that we had put offers to Pandza and Zaluskis and are waiting to hear back from both, also there was a thread on here about it a few days ago or so. Im just saying its not automaticly true what Pandza is saying which everybody seems to be taking a gosple right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 If he was such a good player another club would have got him, no loss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob1969 1,513 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Aye, Rangers supporters, believe this stranger's side before you'll listen to Rangers' side of the story.His agent will be sending this out after hearing Zaliukas was up for less. Our club is no a shambles, our support might be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BlueSherbert90 19,285 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I can understand his frustration and if he chooses not to sign etc then fair enough, but I do have to wonder what the reason is behind us apparently dragging our knuckles, assuming it is not financial reasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Not the 1st time it's happened.It's Matt McKay all over again. Some on here will believe anyone who criticises the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Absolute disgrace if this is all true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 If he was such a good player another club would have got him, no loss.Didnt we get Aluko on a free, outside of a transfer window, when he paid to join us? Turned out not too bad.Seriously though, we should not be bringing in Pandza, we just dont need him. We should not have dragged on a deal for months though. Just leaves us looking stupid when this happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I like how so many are so quick to believe his account and criticse the club....now if it turns out ally has been lying (that's what is is alledged) and we haven't put an offer to him then fair enough but something doesn't quite fit here! He is a Bosnian international and yet no other club has came in for him? Could this be an attempt to raise his profile and get an offer from elsewhere? I hate how our club is constantly being portrayed but in this instance if be inclined to wait until I hear the clubs side of this! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu 981 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 We dont need him or that other dumpling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I like how so many are so quick to believe his account and criticse the club....now if it turns out ally has been lying (that's what is is alledged) and we haven't put an offer to him then fair enough but something doesn't quite fit here! He is a Bosnian international and yet no other club has came in for him? Could this be an attempt to raise his profile and get an offer from elsewhere? I hate how our club is constantly being portrayed but in this instance if be inclined to wait until I hear the clubs side of this!Who has said Ally has been lying?Could it not just be that the board have told Ally they have offered a contract, but then have actually not?As far as im aware, its not McCoists job to issue contracts of employment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 358 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 He's definitely right about the club lacking professionalism and it's Mather & the senior managements' fault.We've been taking players on trial, pissing them about for weeks and even offering them deals by the sounds of it... all when we're not even in a position to bring in players until some players leave.It's ridiculous and embarrassing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I like how so many are so quick to believe his account and criticse the club....now if it turns out ally has been lying (that's what is is alledged) and we haven't put an offer to him then fair enough but something doesn't quite fit here! He is a Bosnian international and yet no other club has came in for him? Could this be an attempt to raise his profile and get an offer from elsewhere? I hate how our club is constantly being portrayed but in this instance if be inclined to wait until I hear the clubs side of this!Ally doesn't give out contracts!!!If anyone at the club has been lying it would have been the board and CEO.But, first and foremost I'll put my trust in the club over some footballer who I'd never heard of 3 months ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Who has said Ally has been lying?Could it not just be that the board have told Ally they have offered a contract, but then have actually not?As far as im aware, its not McCoists job to issue contracts of employment.You got a like from me. Enjoy it, coz I don't agree with you often. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Bah!Ive gave you one back. Must be a full moon! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Bah!Ive gave you one back. Must be a full moon! You just cancelled out my like for your post. So now we're back to me thinking you talk pure pish mostly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
californiadreamin52 339 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Mather obviously leading player and manager along Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,311 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I do feel for the guy after reading thatBut would obviously like to hear the clubs side tooI'm sure Jack will fill us in on twitter later. How much more embarrassing can it become? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Rangers and transfer shambles, nothing new. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 So automaticly now Evil Craig Mather has strung both Ally and Pandza along for months just for laugh? Ffs Pandza wanted a deal according to Rangers we offered him one he says we have not, i dont know whats true but its obvious the deal is dead (ive thought so for ages) so we move on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Who has said Ally has been lying?Could it not just be that the board have told Ally they have offered a contract, but then have actually not?As far as im aware, its not McCoists job to issue contracts of employment.That us a pretty serious assumption to make regarding the relationship between our manager and CEO.....however ally has stated on a number of occasions in press conferences and interviews "I know" we have made a offer....."I have spoke with his agent".....etc.. Now to be clear I'm not accusing ally of lying but pandza effectively is but as I said earlier if rather wait to hear the clubs side of this! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 the Manager wanted him. The CEO wanted him (but we don't know what conditions were set for him joining). The player apparently wanted to join us. The signing (or not) saga - and it is a saga - has now been running for ages and for far too long. If a deal had been at the margins of affordability then my guess is a way would have been found to make the signing - especially if the player had good potential for a transfer fee downstream to help recoup (and more) the initial signing costs. It should have been win-win for the Club and the player. But now it seems that might not be the case. If he was a player who would have been a key part of the backbone core of a side to compete for top honours in the top flight in due course and be part of the momentum to do that then it would be a real loss not to sign him now. If the money issues - it must in substance be down to money and wage structures - were not at the margins and it was an affordability or wage structure issue then that is just where the Club is right now with deals that you'd like to do but simply can't because living within means is more important than getting the best possible signings at this stage of the journey. The saga is perhaps another illustration of why a different approach to signing players might be better - less megaphone 'we'd like to sign him' stuff repeated often in the hope it adds influence to a decision to sign, and more of a 'put a deal on the table, negotiate and if it does not appeal move on to another signing target and only announce when the deal is done'. We really do not have any need as Supporters to be pulled through the signing or not hedgerows wondering if a deal is to be done or not. It does not enhance credibility. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Mather obviously leading player and manager alongSeriously? I can't believe that.....how blind we all are....Paul Murray was right all along....erm wait a minute do you have any facts to support this post? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC 12,432 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Said it before and will say it again, we have Ross Perry coming back soon so there is no need to sign him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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