TheLawMan 6,240 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 1. DK had his assets frozen at the time by the RSA government.2. D&P did not give anybody else the opportunity to bid for the assets of the liquidated company.1) Im sure they had been partially unfrozen.2) So why didnt he put an unconditional bid in ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carson's cat 744 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Point 2 who would have outbid greens lotWe'll never know, but McColl/Smith would have been in with a shout. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I think the same rule appies to DK as applied to the requisitioners and anybody else who wants to tell the board how to run the business - If you feel you can do something about it, buy some shares and get involved rather than creating FUD on the sidelines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willygers4life 1,031 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I will not rest until a majority of the shares are owned by people who actually support the club. We will never make any progress as long as we're just another tradeable commodity for the speculators.So who would those people be I wonder, if we are kept as a traceable commodity at least then the owners and board would lead with there head and not there heart. Also who do you always make out the current investors are not to be trusted, and if it wasn't green that could have bought the company who would have been a rival with prove of funds to back them up Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Point 2 who would have outbid greens lotno one else had the opportunityDuff and Phelps tied in the Charlie consortium bid if a CVA was rejectedfuck sake..............for £5.5 million...........WE could have bought the 'Gers............Borusia Dortmund, Barcelona................if they can make it work, we could ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,310 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 We'll never know, but McColl/Smith would have been in with a shout.Absolute nonsense once again! What part of "not willing to invest in any football club" do you not understand? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willygers4life 1,031 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 We'll never know, but McColl/Smith would have been in with a shout.They put an offer in after everything was signed, why wait till then, and you do remember bill miller was before green and he was chased away, then green came in, why wasn't any other party involved providing prove they had the ffunds Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 no one else had the opportunityDuff and Phelps tied in the Charlie consortium bid if a CVA was rejectedfuck sake..............for £5.5 million...........WE could have bought the 'Gers............Borusia Dortmund, Barcelona................if they can make it work, we could !Everybody had the opportunity. Nobody was brave enough to make an unconditional offer like Green. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willygers4life 1,031 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 no one else had the opportunityDuff and Phelps tied in the Charlie consortium bid if a CVA was rejectedfuck sake..............for £5.5 million...........WE could have bought the 'Gers............Borusia Dortmund, Barcelona................if they can make it work, we could !Dortmund ain't a complete fan ownership who, it something like 51/49 percentage ownership ain't it, so who would have bought the club if not Charles green Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMotor 2,208 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 no one else had the opportunityDuff and Phelps tied in the Charlie consortium bid if a CVA was rejectedfuck sake..............for £5.5 million...........WE could have bought the 'Gers............Borusia Dortmund, Barcelona................if they can make it work, we could !Paul Murray's mob had nearly 5 months to do so but wouldn't (or couldn't) even stump up the 500K for exclusivity.Duff and Phelps even went public at one point and asked them outright to step up and they could have the club but they just kept on banging their gums and trying to get 50% off the fee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carson's cat 744 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Absolute nonsense once again! What part of "not willing to invest in any football club" do you not understand?Your powers of recollection are clearly failing you. McColl and Smith put in a bid for the assets of the oldco immediately after the CVA was rejected. Despite the fact that their bid was higher than Green's, D&P sold the assets to Green because they had apparently entered into a binding contract to do so. It will be interesting to read BDO's final report on this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st_Jan_1994 4,868 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Ah the Ally 'that bastard' man has a dig - how surprisingHow's that a dig? That's pretty tame ya wee runt Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hubbard 280 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Dortmund ain't a complete fan ownership who, it something like 51/49 percentage ownership ain't it, so who would have bought the club if not Charles greenaye aw' right. about Dortmund............for £5.5 million ST holders could have bought the club no problembut nobody was given the opportunityCharley's guys got a deal before liquidation..............so when that happened no other bids were accepted for the liquidated company Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willygers4life 1,031 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 aye aw' right. about Dortmund............for £5.5 million ST holders could have bought the club no problembut nobody was given the opportunityCharley's guys got a deal before liquidation..............so when that happened no other bids were accepted for the liquidated companySo why wait till cva was rejected, green came up with the money, yes the fans could have done it but we didn't, nothing was put forward from the fans for raising money to actually buy the club. There wasn't really time to hang about to see what other offers came in. If say took an extra month for offers after cva rejected we would have struggled to get our licence before season started imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,513 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 King is hoping to get the club for nothing that way he recoups most of the £20 million the boy David stitched him up for. That is perfectly acceptable as tax specialist dave is a "real Rangers man".I smell shite..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,310 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Your powers of recollection are clearly failing you. McColl and Smith put in a bid for the assets of the oldco immediately after the CVA was rejected. Despite the fact that their bid was higher than Green's, D&P sold the assets to Green because they had apparently entered into a binding contract to do so. It will be interesting to read BDO's final report on this.Yes my memory must be failing; I was certain only the Green consortium went through the bidding process and do not recollect an official bid from the man who has consistently stated that he would never invest money in a football club even as far back when he was ,supposedly, a life long Partick Thistle fan and told the struggling club that they would have to stand on their own two feet.I do remember the alleged bid once Green had control, for £500k more than he had paid but, once again,there was no confirmation that payment could be made. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I will not rest until a majority of the shares are owned by people who actually support the club. We will never make any progress as long as we're just another tradeable commodity for the speculators.What use folk supporting the club when their sole idea of running it is an already failed model? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carson's cat 744 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 What use folk supporting the club when their sole idea of running it is an already failed model?I don't follow your logic. How many trophies did we win between 1872 and 2012? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I don't follow your logic. How many trophies did we win between 1872 and 2012?What does that have to do with anything?We are running at a loss and king has come out and said we should be increasing that loss.Paul Murray had a business plan that depended on getting to the quarter finals of the champions league.Malcolm Murray was financing things via a millions shirt sales.And David "asset stripper" Murray went through untold millions, not many of them his of course.20 from king, was it 20 from enic? I forget, 50 mill to underwrite his failed share offeringYup well run from 2000 onwards and the others mentioned want to run it in the same fashion Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 We'll never make any progress as long as the majority are happy just to finish above the tarriers every season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,526 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 We'll never make any progress as long as the majority are happy just to finish above the tarriers every season.They had better learn to accept being below them for the foreseeable future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I don't follow your logic. How many trophies did we win between 1872 and 2012?I remember you from somewhere, you went away for a while didn't you? December-ish wasn't it?Ah that's right, "possibility of the board getting a kicking and Comedy Cat comes a knocking"Think I know where to file your boardroom speculation and insider knowledge Mr 28%. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Don't understand Dave King. The last board backed Ally 100% now look whats happened.And how should we be investing with what money?What happened to him coming to the rescue anyway? More fucking pish from another "Rangers man" i take it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carson's cat 744 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Don't understand Dave King. The last board backed Ally 100% now look whats happened.And how should we be investing with what money?With the money DK is willing to invest, but which the Board does not want to accept! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 With the money DK is willing to invest, but which the Board does not want to accept!Perhaps they dont like his reputation with legal entities.Or perhaps they dont want to sell their shares, and hell have to wait like everyone else for a new issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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