Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Wish he would let us know what Spivs are angry so we know they aren't Spivs, or are they still Spivs even though SOS like them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopsLaud 4,186 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Well that has brightened up my morning. It would be good if Craig was on here and able to answer questions to be fair, so not sure if anyone has an open line to him through FB or Twitter. According to him on that video there are investors whom he is in contact with who want to re-invest and would write a cheque immediately for more than £1.5m. That being the case, then clearly these people believe in Wallace and back the current Board otherwise why would they get their blank cheques out and ask for nothing in return. Having said that, how the hell do they know they would ask "for less in return" when they dont actually know what the deal is ?As for asking other shareholders to invest, then I know im right in saying that Resolution 9 puts a limit on the amount of shares they can offer out to existing shareholders of £434,000 of share value, with or without a consideration of cash and i believe im right in saying that Resolution 10, if passed, would have allowed them to issue further shares to existing investors for a cash consideration however as it wasnt then this prevents them from doing so.So, following on from that, until a secondary share issue is ready to go, then their hands were tied in the amount of shares they could allocate and it stands to reason that if the 2 biggest proxy shareholders are willing to put up £1.5m in return for £434k of shares, as things stand today, then there is no point in speaking to anyone else.I think i stood up for the guy after an appearance on Sportsound by saying he actually came across ok on there and to be fair, again, he came across ok on that video, but surely to christ somebody who supports them will have a word in his ear and tell him how cheesy that whole set up was, and also, like Brian Bowman used to do, by speaking "well" about things he clearly does not have a handle on, will influence others to simply believe and not ask questions of him. Surely this is the most glaringly obvious point.It's reassuring to know that investors are queueing up to write blank cheques with no interest or equity payback though.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny_01 2,007 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 No. That's Neknomination. What Houston does is Brassneknomination.hahaha good one !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Just opened the thread and when this guy appeared I immediately got a virus warning. Nuff said! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Just had a look on the SOS Facebook page again and it's much the same as the last time I checked it. Deluded followers congratulating him on his "brilliant work" while anyone who dares to even ask him who these sources are gets hounded by them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgowrangersno1 468 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 so to clarify you believe an investor would openly speak to someone with no affiliation with the club and say they would offer more for less return without knowing the details of any potential deal? Surely you aren't that thick?You've no idea who this investor is.I'm not saying I believe it but I wouldn't come on and slate one of our own fans for saying it.What I do believe is other shareholders would be pissed off with this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 My initial thoughts 'is this for real or another tim wind-up'??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 It's just normal forum behaviour.Sheep leading the sheep etc etc.The laughable thing about this is the irony! Let's think back to thousands of bears holding up red cards, many of whom didn't know why they were doing it and despite the fact the information on the cards was innacurate.Think back to hundreds if bears clapping and cheering as Murray et al desperately told their followers how big rangers men the are....."I've got a rangers room".....Think back to those fans who booed and hissed at the AGM because the blindly believed the unfounded accusations and rhetoric from the requisitioners.....The sad thing about groups like the SofS is they are exploiting your normal fan with scaremongering and accusations.....having a negative view on that is certainly not down to following a forum or group philosophy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Basically what we have here is a guy desperate for his 15 mins of fame loitering outside Ibrox in an attempt to display that he's some sort of über fan, making nonsense statements about conversations with sources that he'll never reveal because they probably don't exist and he's got over 5 thousand of our fans soaking up every word like a wet sponge. I've said it before and I'll probably say it a million times again until he disappears and takes his farce of a group with him...Cringeworthy as fuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 You've no idea who this investor is.I'm not saying I believe it but I wouldn't come on and slate one of our own fans for saying it.What I do believe is other shareholders would be pissed off with this.That is an assumption (a fair one yes) but for a group banging on about transparency why have they never revealed who their contacts are or which investors support them? It just seems a little to convenient to me that this alledged investor would claim he/they would be willing to invest more and expect less back despite not knowing the details! You not agree? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 If you listen to what he says, it's not actually a bad thing The investors are seemingly annoyed that they were not given the chance to pump MORE money into the club.I thought we were struggling to get ANY investment? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 No he doesn't he follows on stating that other parties would like to have been given the opportunity to buy more shares.Anyways what I really want is for Dave King to be given the opportunity to buy shares. He is the only man that seems to be interested in taking us forward.Dave king will not be approached to buy shares until ALL the investors of the original IPO have had a chance to protect their investment. They will be given first shout to invest so their shareholding isn't diluted, if they fail to take this up THEN dave king will be offered what is left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Don't knock what he's saying to be honest.It is actually quite interesting and he does have a point regarding other investors whether it be institutional investors, or private investors; Why were they not informed or given the option to put in even more money than £1.5 Million?£1.5 Million is pretty much pennies, it's a certainty that other investors would of been up for putting in a lot more for a lot less.So it is strange that we're choosing pennies over what could be in excess of £50 Million (including if Dave King had been allowed to invest) you have no idea of the repayment deal on the 1.5m so how can you possibly say the other investors would require less back for their investment?50m go back to sleep man ffs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,798 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 In my opinion SOS have been an embarrasment from day one of their existence. The only thing they are good at is splitting the support when we need to be trying to come together and fight our real enemies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 SOS tried to claim a couple of days or so before the AGM that it was close run thing, both sides had 40% guaranteed. We all know the results so they have no credibility when it comes to claims about investors Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 768 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 The laughable thing about this is the irony! Let's think back to thousands of bears holding up red cards, many of whom didn't know why they were doing it and despite the fact the information on the cards was innacurate.Think back to hundreds if bears clapping and cheering as Murray et al desperately told their followers how big rangers men the are....."I've got a rangers room".....Think back to those fans who booed and hissed at the AGM because the blindly believed the unfounded accusations and rhetoric from the requisitioners.....The sad thing about groups like the SofS is they are exploiting your normal fan with scaremongering and accusations.....having a negative view on that is certainly not down to following a forum or group philosophy!pot kettle, RM users jump to conclusions just the same as ff or sos, you don't know anymore than they do, you are talking shite just like them, its an opinion.If you are aloud an opinion then so are they.Grow up and shut up, sick of listening to all you banging on as if you know best when all of you have backed the wrong people over and over again, the same culprits jump on here to tell us its scaremongering, then when things pan out the way they said you all try to twist it. Face it you don't have a clue what is true or not you are making it all up so don't go on at others for the same thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Clipboard This is one of the best ones. Clipboard kenny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 pot kettle, RM users jump to conclusions just the same as ff or sos, you don't know anymore than they do, you are talking shite just like them, its an opinion.If you are aloud an opinion then so are they.Grow up and shut up, sick of listening to all you banging on as if you know best when all of you have backed the wrong people over and over again, the same culprits jump on here to tell us its scaremongering, then when things pan out the way they said you all try to twist it. Face it you don't have a clue what is true or not you are making it all up so don't go on at others for the same thing. :lol: wee man take a step back and re-read what I and others have said....nobody is making any predictions or claiming to have any knowledge other than the SofS and their like....I react to facts unlike those you seem determined to defend! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,359 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Ah you see Carson's cat said that the city investors rejected the chance to invest more and now this fool from SOS is saying they wasn't asked, so which one is itThey make it up as they go along. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Fucking hell everything we do these days is hard work. One of our inverstors gives us money and it's reported as a bad thing.WTF!People just automatically think the worse in everything we do now.What would people rather a loan from a bank or a loan from one of our investors?The board can't win can they? what are they supposed to do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Fucking hell everything we do these days is hard work. One of our inverstors gives us money and it's reported as a bad thing.WTF!People just automatically think the worse in everything we do now.What would people rather a loan from a bank or a loan from one of our investors?The board can't win can they? what are they supposed to do?It would appear that to some, what the board are supposed to do (to curry favour among the rebels) is to change their names to Paul and Malky Murray (deed poll should sort that) and we all live happily ever after. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLawMan 6,240 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 pot kettle, RM users jump to conclusions just the same as ff or sos, you don't know anymore than they do, you are talking shite just like them, its an opinion.If you are aloud an opinion then so are they.Grow up and shut up, sick of listening to all you banging on as if you know best when all of you have backed the wrong people over and over again, the same culprits jump on here to tell us its scaremongering, then when things pan out the way they said you all try to twist it. Face it you don't have a clue what is true or not you are making it all up so don't go on at others for the same thing.RM allows opinions from both sides of the fence and therein lies the difference. On FF for daring to have a different opinion to the clique is a bannable offence. From what others have said on here as well that the same happened on SOS page where articles stating facts were removed because they did not want their fans to know the truth.There is also a wider group on here who have differing views on separate subjects which does not happen elsewhere. Just as an example that i can think of, Gogzy appears to hold 100% the same opinion as me in relation to the Board issues yet 100% polar opposite opinion to me on Ally.If you want to baa, FF is the place to be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 pot kettle, RM users jump to conclusions just the same as ff or sos, you don't know anymore than they do, you are talking shite just like them, its an opinion.If you are aloud an opinion then so are they.Grow up and shut up, sick of listening to all you banging on as if you know best when all of you have backed the wrong people over and over again, the same culprits jump on here to tell us its scaremongering, then when things pan out the way they said you all try to twist it. Face it you don't have a clue what is true or not you are making it all up so don't go on at others for the same thing.Wrong people over and over again? Who are they apart from Whyte? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,359 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 You've no idea who this investor is.I'm not saying I believe it but I wouldn't come on and slate one of our own fans for saying it.What I do believe is other shareholders would be pissed off with this.If you believe he's not being truthful with what he says you are well within your rights to ask questions, and it's up time him to back them up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBlue_Since91 2,895 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Find this guy annoying as fuck acting as if he knows investors in London and acting as if the club are in contact with him on a daily basis. He's just a normal fan. Think the the power he thinks he has, has went to his head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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