Nikica Jelavic 41 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 As much as I hate SDM people on here are letting themselves down and Rangers by having a go at the mans disability. Shocking way for people to behave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 David Murray cared only about himself, and helped destroy what greater men in our history helped build. Yes we did all enjoy nine and in a row, but now when you see the cost of it, i would give it all back if it meant that we would not have entered Administration. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikica Jelavic 41 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Agree 100% Minstral. We payed out furtunes in money to win what? The 1 or 2 horse race every year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sore Heid Bear 85 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I would rather Green and Whyte teamed up for another go at us than Murray came back.Can only guess at the agendas of those who'd do anything other than slowly rip him apart. (Edit to add 'metaphorically' - violence solves almost nothing). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 David Murray cared only about himself, and helped destroy what greater men in our history helped build. Yes we did all enjoy nine and in a row, but now when you see the cost of it, i would give it all back if it meant that we would not have entered Administration.Nine in a row wasn't a problem financially. It was his indulgence of Advocaat which built up the massive debt, but TV money and the banking crisis squeezed us for that debt. The EBT strategy backfired in a way that few would have expected or even imagined, given the evidence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I would rather Green and Whyte teamed up for another go at us than Murray came back.Can only guess at the agendas of those who'd do anything other than slowly rip him apart.You've taken that one way too far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
one55 1,510 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Anyone who wants him back must be fucking insane and/or a bheast in disguise.He should NOT be in control of OUR club again. It's because of him we're in this fucking mess. We racked up all the debt under him and he sold us to that wee beedy eyed fuck of a shyte. By all means invest, buy some shares but he should never be allowed any control or onto the board in any way at all. I'd rather we struggle for years, broken, limping our way back up to the stop than have him or dave king back in control. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie 205 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Unfortunately Murray's legacy will forever be tarnished after selling the club to Whyte.I'll probably get pelters for this but had he not sold the club to Whyte and a decent person had come in, I think a majority of supporters would have looked back on Murray's time in charge as a success. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Of course he was not duped!Anyone including posters on here could quickly find out about Whyte and his history of asset stripping,running up debts before dissolving companies,not paying tax by just searching google archive news and sites like company credit check.Any business man in Scotland would have known about him in more detail especially any businessman who spent time in the south of France.Yeah, just like if something went wrong with the Easdales we could turn round and say well, with their past - saw it coming. But wait a minute, where are the Easdales? Exactly, at Rangers. How long was Whyte in the running for taking over us before he actually did? I remember it being a substantial amount of time, yet I didn't see any Rangers supporters coming out saying this guy cannot be trusted, look at his past history etc. I wonder why?As you say, all that information is dead easy to get hold of, are you saying no Rangers fans gave a shit about Whytes background enough to find out about him before he took over Rangers? The only other thing I can think of is the information regarding Whyte only became easy to get hold of after the countless investigations into him when he had already taken over our club. Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it?The very fact that the Rangers fans allowed the Whyte takeover eliminates SOME of the blame directed at DM simply because many many fans were actually happy to see Whyte take over, and (as you say) were able to get information on Whyte very easily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,310 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Yeah, just like if something went wrong with the Easdales we could turn round and say well, with their past - saw it coming. But wait a minute, where are the Easdales? Exactly, at Rangers. How long was Whyte in the running for taking over us before he actually did? I remember it being a substantial amount of time, yet I didn't see any Rangers supporters coming out saying this guy cannot be trusted, look at his past history etc. I wonder why?As you say, all that information is dead easy to get hold of, are you saying no Rangers fans gave a shit about Whytes background enough to find out about him before he took over Rangers? The only other thing I can think of is the information regarding Whyte only became easy to get hold of after the countless investigations into him when he had already taken over our club. Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it?The very fact that the Rangers fans allowed the Whyte takeover eliminates SOME of the blame directed at DM simply because many many fans were actually happy to see Whyte take over, and (as you say) were able to get information on Whyte very easily.There were posters on here who were derided for trying to bring the history of Whyte to light, there was enough information in the press also but like the present time many people are wishing that a possible sugar daddy even with a history of tax evasion and deliberate lack of transparency will take over the reins of the club all fears and suggestions were happily ignored by fans,Murray and his advisors (until later with hindsight) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don81 2,875 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stfu 596 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 How could he have been duped when the rest of the board gave him a dossier telling him Whyte was no good? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,479 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 No fucking way would he dare come back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnw 22 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Lp Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 How could he have been duped when the rest of the board gave him a dossier telling him Whyte was no good?Was this not about 2 days before the keys were handed over, and Murray found £25m down his couch? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietspam 733 Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 None of us had the direct access to what Whyte was like unlike him, he just didn't care. You aren't seriously giving the 'duped' stuff credibility are you?I think you have to, to a degree, yes. There is no way David Murray knew what was going to happen. No one could have foreseen that. We as Rangers fans have to shoulder some of the blame as well. We were so short sighted at the prospect of a new era under a new owner that we demanded he sell the club right away.Before he sold the club, we were going in the right direction. Our debt was coming down by 1 Million a year was it? Or a month? We had a squad that was capable of challenging Celtic and doing something in Europe. Now we have a board in a complete mess. No one is sure who is actually running things. Somehow, despite starting off with no debt and 22 million in the bank we don't have enough money to survive. We're still paying players far, far too much. Fans are withholding season ticket money and the club is faced with Administration only 2 years after coming out of it.I think we need to go back to one man running the show. If that's DM, that is fine by me. I couldn't have told you who was on the board when he was in charge. Things were quiet then and that's the way it should be. One man is better than in-fighting, back stabbing, leaking, media hungry idiots with big egos who want to be on the back pages all the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 75,791 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Unlike Murray I think the rumour has legs... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 3,130 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 SDM is a cock.I don't buy for one minute any of this nonsense he was duped! He was forced to sell by the bank and he took the only offer there knowing full well the guy was a complete wanker and with a trail of destruction behind him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikica Jelavic 41 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Post 142 is disgraceful and should be removed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 75,791 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Post 142 is disgraceful and should be removed.Lighten up ya greetin faced chump. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 SDM 'I will only sell if it's in the best interests of Rangers'From hero to zero for me - SDM is not stupid - he knew Whyte was a charlatan! But saved himself - had to be done from his side , perhaps, but from our perspective he sold us out! Even I don't have it in me to forgive him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikica Jelavic 41 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I don't need to mate you need to stop posting disgusting things like you have. You might want to grow up a bit too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,624 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Unlike Murray I think the rumour has legs...I'm sure we have a big support among our armed forces who have lost limbs through no fault of their own i find this post distasteful and lacks class. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Do people have the same moral objections to wishing death on Whyte? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandabear 15 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 There probably is some part of mind that thinks he has unfinished business with us,, I think he always had some side to him which needed to prove to the world how successful he was and were the symbol of this. He did like playing the hero at times but also didn't try to dictate all aspects of the club as some owners do.If flogging us to Whyte was all part of his master plan, then if he were to come back he would have to invest some serious money to appease the fans. After all, it was us who have suffered emotionally and financially from the past 2 years.Can't ever see it happening but at the same time who knows? We don't even know what state the club will be in by next season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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