legalbeagle 3,734 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 43 minutes ago, tannerall said: Of course you have to be a "truly great player" to win leagues and play in European finals. Kirk Broadfoot has won 3 league championships and played in a European final. Just saying. Didn't say that, but judging Lee Wallace based on one average top league season and a further 3 and a half in lower leagues against a guy we saw playing against champions league opponents is not exactly apples with apples. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemisis 358 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I'll go for Wallace and the reason is he is a better player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 7 hours ago, K.A.I said: Wallace. Papac was shite IMO. Really really over-rated. People moaned about Whittaker but the amount of goals Papac cost us at his full back position or on the back post for being too slow or napping was worse. Another like Hemdani who has some sort of cult status among the fans but wasn't ever that good for us bar a few games. Fuckin ridiculous statement to make , Papac played at a far higher level than Wallace has ever done and was more consistent than Wallace has ever been. Wallace at times is a bombscare at whats he's supposed to be doing and thats defending, and thats against nobodies . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosco88 66 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 6 hours ago, hammer93 said: I think papac received hero status due to the fact he was the only player that made a career at Rangers from the plg days. I wouldn't say he was shite but it's also tough to rate Wallace as he has only played 1 season in the top league with us.  Thats exactly how I feel. Tav and Wallace look like the best fullbacks in the world at the moment, as much as I rate them I just want to make sure if they can maintain that standard when we go up. But for me currently, on technical ability, fitness, wallace wins hands down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewhitevanman 1,619 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Wallace all day for me. Stayed when he could've fucked off but loyalty amongst us bears is huge and he has it in spades, let's not forget he was still youngish when we were criminally put into admin and could have walked he gave up an international career and earned his captaincy and any1 who MW thinks is the captain then he has something. Papac I really liked and was consistant and played in a good side and gave everything but lee Wallace for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgers 735 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 14 minutes ago, sassaaaa said: Fuckin ridiculous statement to make , Papac played at a far higher level than Wallace has ever done and was more consistent than Wallace has ever been. Wallace at times is a bombscare at whats he's supposed to be doing and thats defending, and thats against nobodies . It's all a matter of opinion  and much as you have to respect Papac, Wallace is better entertainment in a role he is being asked to do by the manager, so no he isn't failing as a defender Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP FC 400 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Had a lot of time for Papac, was intelligent, but had limitations going forward, he also had a higher level of player around him. Wallace is a true athlete, and has far exceeded what I thought he would turn out. He also has scruples and has turned out to be a great captain after all the drama. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, allgers said: It's all a matter of opinion  and much as you have to respect Papac, Wallace is better entertainment in a role he is being asked to do by the manager, so no he isn't failing as a defender He has been found out as a defender many times and has been up against plumbers and joiners at the time. Come back when he's played against the cream in the CL just like Sasa did consistently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SasaPapacLoyal 348 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Mon the Papac.  He nutmegged messi and knocked himself out trying to stop the tarriers scoring Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwallowsHisOwnSpunk 7,910 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Papac without a doubt. Â Half the people voting for Wallace are the ones that were calling him shite and saying we should let him go for nothing this time last season. Papac has performed at the highest level consistently and while not as good going forward as Wallace he was still pretty decent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD.1872 890 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Wallace all day long for me. Anyone remember when McCoist thought it was a good idea to stick Papac in CM?  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxric72 199 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Both great Gers players but for consistency and dependability I'd plump for Papac as Lee has been off the boil at times, for long spells. I can't recall Papac ever having a bad game but I suppose he must have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Couldnt choose. Big fan of Wallace but i loved wee Sasa Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 5 hours ago, Essandoh said: Papacy is arguably the most consistently slightly above average player we've ever had. Loved the guy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Moobs said: Don't want our players anywhere near the tartan tranny mob! "Shut up, you absolute tool." -said Lee Wallace. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeWilson 4,670 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 1 hour ago, sassaaaa said: Fuckin ridiculous statement to make , Papac played at a far higher level than Wallace has ever done and was more consistent than Wallace has ever been. Wallace at times is a bombscare at whats he's supposed to be doing and thats defending, and thats against nobodies . "Nobodies?" As far as I can recall, on here, every league we have been in is supposedly stronger than the SPFL Premiership. Except the one we won every game. That was shit and Super Ally Bingo etc. Viva La Invincibles! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_ger 1,454 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I'm a big fan of Lee and a big fan of The Papac. So I refuse to answer your question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 5 hours ago, Heshootshescores said: I just gave it to Wallace but both decent full backs. Thinking back through my years of watching some fantastic Gers teams it's not a position that we have excelled in over the years. Arthur Numan probably an exception. Eric Caldow? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanoli 4,628 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I fucking love Wallace, and if he's not captain for 55 I don't even want to win it. But this is a no contest. Can't believe I've just read that Papac was not only overrated, but worse than Whittaker? get fucked. Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred H Crawford 1,182 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ibroxric72 said: . I can't recall Papac ever having a bad game but I suppose he must have. Any time he played in the position we signed him to play . Respect to him for carving out a good career for us ,but after watching Davie Robertson & Arthur Numan then i cant rate him as a top full back IMO Sasa was more on a par with Stuart Munro , a steady 6/10 most weeks but nothing special . I agree that Wallace (& Tav) need to produce in the top league before they can be properly judged . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,709 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 As much as I wanted everything plg away from the club I have to say Papac is the better player ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, BLUEDIGNITY said: As much as I wanted everything plg away from the club I have to say Papac is the better player ! I think time has proven that it was better to get everything "Barry Ferguson" away from the club,especially in the last 6 months.  Wallace will become the better player in most fans eyes in the future, if not now.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Sasa Papac, all day. Consistency was his middle name and that valuable trait often gets overlooked for the more dynamic, flair players. As much as it's enjoyable to see Wallace marauding forward he is not consistently at the level required, IMO, and at 28/29 that is a pretty big indictment. I'm also still sore about his 2 year impression of Nicky Law. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB72 1,532 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 57 minutes ago, SasaPapacLoyal said: Mon the Papac.  He nutmegged messi and knocked himself out trying to stop the tarriers scoring Is there a video of this anywhere? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,622 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Both very average defenders Wallace would get my vote for his forward runs but i always liked Papac he had something about him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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