gazza27 15,283 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam English Loyal 945 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Ye cannae stump the Trump Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 5 hours ago, bluenose48 said: A lot of right wingers are also fascists, bigots and racists. People with any thinking ability have known that for ever. As are many on the extreme left. But theyre OK apparently. Hitler was a socialist after all Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tavernator 279 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Rangers Lady said: That could be Bill Clintons profile as well Hilary enabled his antics, because Trump owned his, the Yanks trusted him, well distrusted him less than Hillary The Winner is....... The most believable Criminal Their Republicans are equally hypocritical as the crackpots we have, tragically, both sets have duped decent folks and now run the fucking show/hate fest More people voted for Hillary than the pussy grabber, but the way the system works that's not always enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Lady 2,380 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 1 minute ago, The Tavernator said: More people voted for Hillary than the pussy grabber, but the way the system works that's not always enough. He knew it, he won be playing the game, Hammered the swing states, flipped a couple more democrats, job done. Ohio, Florida, win them you're in Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 1 minute ago, The Tavernator said: More people voted for Hillary than the pussy grabber, but the way the system works that's not always enough. Exactly thats how OBammer won his first term. As someone who pulled their child out of classes youll know exactly why their electoral system is set up to avoid rule by majority. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,462 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Could have groped for fun over here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tavernator 279 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Just now, Bertent said: Exactly thats how OBammer won his first term. As someone who pulled their child out of classes youll know exactly why their electoral system is set up to avoid rule by majority. Obama won the electoral college and the popular vote - both elections. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tavernator 279 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 5 hours ago, William McBeath said: Well well, Trump and the IRA is alright for some because he's right wing but not a left winger like Corbyn 30 odd years ago Good on him though if he helps some of the poor people by targeting investment. Never ceases to amaze me how America still has a nutty religious wing Driving through rural America, whether in California or the Deep South, you'll see Lord Jesus placards all over the place and thousands of various Christian denominations. Today, 60% of Americans believe Jesus is going to come within their lifetime, trailing clouds of glory, and take them all to Heaven, and all the non-believers will go to Hell and be tortured for all eternity. That's a pretty frightening statistic. Many Republicans want the Bible to be taught from the White House. They will start another religious war if they get the chance. Trump, with his anti-Muslim rhetoric, will give them hope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, The Tavernator said: Obama won the electoral college and the popular vote - both elections. He did but Clinton claimed she won the popular vote at the convention Im pretty sure but he rode to victory on the delegate system And Bush was definitely a minority winner, so why wait till you lose again to complain about the system Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, The Tavernator said: Driving through rural America, whether in California or the Deep South, you'll see Lord Jesus placards all over the place and thousands of various Christian denominations. Today, 60% of Americans believe Jesus is going to come within their lifetime, trailing clouds of glory, and take them all to Heaven, and all the non-believers will go to Hell and be tortured for all eternity. That's a pretty frightening statistic. Many Republicans want the Bible to be taught from the White House. They will start another religious war if they get the chance. Trump, with his anti-Muslim rhetoric, will give them hope. And of course Hillary with her history of hawk like behaviour would be no irritation to mad Vlad. I think too many people think that Fox & the BBC broadcast news and the truth, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tavernator 279 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Just now, Bertent said: And of course Hillary with her history of hawk like behaviour would be no irritation to mad Vlad. I think too many people think that Fox & the BBC broadcast news and the truth, As Obama recently said - if he watched Fox News all the time he wouldn't vote for himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDak 798 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 10 minutes ago, Bertent said: And of course Hillary with her history of hawk like behaviour would be no irritation to mad Vlad. I think too many people think that Fox & the BBC broadcast news and the truth, It's a breath of fresh air to see someone actually voice a genuine opinion on this subject as opposed to the mindless hordes who just regurgitate the same anti-Trump sound bites to sound right on while having no idea why they're saying what they're saying. Good for you, mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Lady 2,380 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, The Tavernator said: Driving through rural America, whether in California or the Deep South, you'll see Lord Jesus placards all over the place and thousands of various Christian denominations. Today, 60% of Americans believe Jesus is going to come within their lifetime, trailing clouds of glory, and take them all to Heaven, and all the non-believers will go to Hell and be tortured for all eternity. That's a pretty frightening statistic. Many Republicans want the Bible to be taught from the White House. They will start another religious war if they get the chance. Trump, with his anti-Muslim rhetoric, will give them hope. He supported these 2 goons , Talking directly to Jerry during his last Rally, even though Jerry be dead since 2011 Millions of votes for dropping Gawwd in every speech Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 If Id have had a vote Id have voted Libertarian. Just cant stand the hypocrisy of the coffee shop champagne socialist liberal elite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Can't really see why this is in Bear's Den. Should this not be moved to another forum? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Reformation Bear said: Can't really see why this is in Bear's Den. Should this not be moved to another forum? Not our Topic Not our thread ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 On 11/9/2016 at 7:38 PM, King Jela said: The most controversial, most hated President of all time, a bigoted, racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-human, anti-whatever else they say about him has links to Rangers according to the Scottish media Wonder who this mystery source is? Fucking cretins Well that is debatable. Lincoln was hated by the South. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Bertent said: As are many on the extreme left. But theyre OK apparently. Hitler was a socialist after all Hitler wasn't a socialist. Is this another weird attempt to somehow associate Hitler with 'the left'? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Hitler was a nationalist Socialist. Not an internationlist Socialist. He did say the https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=hitler+on+socialism&espv=2&biw=1242&bih=602&tbm=isch&imgil=DK3B2t3Ai1Oa5M%3A%3BBzGmrOesPll5aM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.bruceonpolitics.com%252F2016%252F02%252F01%252Fcan-corbyn-be-compared-to-hitler%252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=DK3B2t3Ai1Oa5M%3A%2CBzGmrOesPll5aM%2C_&usg=__OxkIODo4rSACdDSL9Uu5w5sUNqY%3D&dpr=1.1&ved=0ahUKEwjQo9bDpqPQAhVnLsAKHaQNCSgQyjcIRw&ei=ERYnWJDXAufcgAakm6TAAg#imgrc=DK3B2t3Ai1Oa5M%3A Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,158 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, Inigo said: Hitler wasn't a socialist. By today's standards maybe not, but many would argue that he was, no one wants to be associated with his ideas so I can understand today's socialists not wanting to use that label. He did work for the good of the German people but only certain German people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 A borrowed quote, but relevant here. When Hitler says 'Socialism', he doesn't mean what any normal person would mean. He isn't a socialist. 'Socialism' NOUN [MASS NOUN] 1A political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. Hitler the ardent socialist: “The great masses of workmen want nothing else than bread and amusement; they have no understanding of idealism; and we can never count on being able to gain any considerable support among them. What we want is a picked number from the new ruling class, who – unlike you – are not troubled with humanitarian feelings, but who are convinced that they have the right to rule as being a superior race, and who will secure and maintain their rule ruthlessly over the broad masses.” "Socialism is in itself a bad word if it is used literally. But it is certainly not to be taken as meaning that industry must be socialised. The industrialists have worked their way to the top by their own abilities, and this proof of their capacity – a capacity only displayed by a higher race – gives them the right to lead." "The government will not protect the economic interests of the German people by the circuitous method of an economic bureaucracy to be organised by the state, but by the utmost furtherance of private initiative and by the recognition of the rights of property". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,534 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: By today's standards maybe not, but many would argue that he was, no one wants to be associated with his ideas so I can understand today's socialists not wanting to use that label. He did work for the good of the German people but only certain German people. By no standards was he a socialist. That accusation is normally made by people that want to dissociate him with the right and associate him with the left for whatever purpose. Of course socialists don't want it, largely because it's a lie that some like to push in some kind of effort to discredit socialists. He may have called himself it once, but he more often ridiculed it, and in practice did not show himself to be one. In fact as leader, he purged socialists, or people he considered sounded too socialist, from the party. Murdered them. Got rid of socialist sentiment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,158 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, Inigo said: By no standards was he a socialist. That accusation is normally made by people that want to dissociate him with the right and associate him with the left for whatever purpose. He may have called himself it once, but he more often ridiculed it, and in practice did not show himself to be one. In fact as leader, he purged socialists, or people he considered sounded too socialist, from the party. Murdered them. Got rid of socialist sentiment. It was a different time, socialism meant a different thing back then, he called himself a socialist. quote: Hitler may have publicly denounced Marxism, because of his war against the hated Soviet Union, but privately he always admitted that he was at heart a left-winger. He once said to Otto Wagener that the problem with the politicians of the Weimar Republic was that they “had never even read Marx.” He believed that the problem of German Communists was that they didn’t understand the difference between principles and tactics. He referred to them as mere pamphleteers, whereas “I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun.” He stated plainly that “the whole of National Socialism” was based on Marx. Read more: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/7-quotes-prove-adolf-hitler-proud-socialist/#ixzz4PnkW1UeG Follow us: @TheLibRepublic on Twitter Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 He even said we are based on socialism. The difference is it was nationalist. Unlike those damn reds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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